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    The Rumour Thread

    in Age of Sigmar Discussions

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    10 minutes ago, Sleboda said:

    Interesting.

    While I understand that some folks buy multiples of them, I really don't see that as the primary goal. I think it's more the first bit. 

     

    You buy one of these to ... start collecting.

     

    You then add other stuff. From that perspective, including a hero you can use to start your collection makes all the sense in the world. In fact, I would think GW would deliberately ensure people don't want to get multiples of a set that comes at a discount. Give new collectors a bit of a freebie to start in order to encourage a new collection, but then sell the rest of the army at full value.

    Just giving a player a 30% (or whatever) discount off a full army makes pretty much zero sense to me, in terms of business/profits/shareholder value.

    I think a one-time purchase Start Collecting (SC) at 25% off that leads to full price purchases on the other $500+ makes perfect sense.

     

    I guess I'm saying that those of us looking for full-army discounts via several SC boxes may not be the target for these, and our complaints that GW is not giving us all the free stuff we want may fall on deaf ears. 😉

    Seems like a bit of a misnomer to be calling them "free" or "freebies" really.  They aren't "free" as if GW is doing you a big favour to their own detriment, they are just boxes with slightly lower profit margins for GW.

    That may not even be the case either, as the form factor of the boxes and the higher purchase price to shelf/container space etc may actually mitigate the lower face profit vs individual sales etc. 

    On top of that, the boxes often seem to throw in units that are often not that great / optimal in actual game terms and would likely not be recommended / bought as a first set if people were buying these boxes individually.

    So you could say it's not much of a deal at all if taking that perspective, which seems just as valid as calling them "free" models.

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    Just giving a player a 30% (or whatever) discount off a full army makes pretty much zero sense to me, in terms of business/profits/shareholder value.

    If you want your army so only consist of those units sold in the SC. But if the bundle was called "saver bundle" or "battleforce" I feel like most peoples opinion on "should only be buying one"  would change.  Also, it's not a simple thing to say that its bad for profit to allow people to collect armies more cheaply, since it's not easy to account for the benefits of further saturation / increased sales volume etc.  People getting armies cheaper doesn't inherently mean less profit.

     

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    our complaints that GW is not giving us all the free stuff we want may fall on deaf ears. 

    Feels a little bit like I see you chip in to be antagonistic toward people instead of actually engaging with them regarding their views. You replied again here and expanded a bit on what you were thinking but your first post was literally 

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    Oh no! How dare GW only give you some free stuff and not more!

    /s

    Which is not only worthless but essentially inflammatory if you ask me.

     

    Anyhow, this is the rumour thread and this is probably just going way off topic...

     

     

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    The Rumour Thread

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    35 minutes ago, JackStreicher said:

    I wonder if the new Battletome allows us to use the Chaos Mammoth since it has all the required Keywords.... (would be AMAZING).
    Also Mierce just launched an awesome mammoth!
     

    I imagine if GW had put out a massive plastic mammoth (they also appear in the AoS Lore) the internet would have thrown bars of gold at them XD

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    With the chaos mammoth being discontinued, I'd doubt that. 

     

    Unless they've been hiding a plastic one, which I also doubt. 😔

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    The Rumour Thread

    in Age of Sigmar Discussions

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    29 minutes ago, stato said:

    Its very easy to get the answers to 4 and 5, its in their annual and half annual reports.

    second half of 2018 they made £120+m revenue, of which £40m was profit, so 30% of what you pay for something is profit.  Individual items will swing obviously with 'savings' items like starter sets not making as much as separate kits.  But the fact is overall they only make 30% profit from money we give them, so dont see how them trying to increase that to 31% is indefensible.

     

    I haven't looked at their reports, but are you getting that number by removing all of their expenses barring those inherently required to make the products? 

    If they have invested in a new factory etc for example, then that would eat into the profit heavily and simply looking at profit vs revenue would not tell you how much they make on kits. 

    Especially so if they have made large purchases recently that are not likely to be a quarterly / yearly etc outlay which reduced profit. 

    Another aspect as well is do they break down sales from China made stuff separately too (I doubt it) ? That would also have different profit margins. If you lump them together you wouldnt get an accurate number for either. 

    AoS 2 - Stormcast Eternals Discussion

    in Stormcast Eternals

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    1 hour ago, Walrustaco said:

    I dunno about this beasty's face. If I could find a nice horse face to replace it I'd seriously consider it.

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    Oh dear. Now the melee special rule makes sense. Every time they wound it in melee they might gaze upon its majestic face and risk letting their guard down in a fit of laughter. 

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    The Rumour Thread

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    Posted

    41 minutes ago, bsharitt said:

    https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/06/23/23rd-june-9-heroes-you-need-to-try-in-the-new-editiongw-homepage-post-4/

    They showed the gitmob grot shaman when talking about a Moonclan grot shaman abilitiy. Sure it could be a mistake, but that makes for terrible rumor mongering. They're clearly merging all the grots into one big battletome that is going to be so awesome, they're going to have to do AoS 3.0 right on the heels of 2.0 just to contain it. You heard it here first.

    I sincerely hope it comes soon, my goblins have waited long enough to see battle! ? 

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    The Rumour Thread

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    13 minutes ago, Melcavuk said:

    If you mean the start collecting boxes they typically last until a new one is issued, given that Tzeentch has only recently been updated I cant see their Start Collecting disappearing anytime soon.

    Battleforce Tzeentch Arcanites Changecult

     

    Think he means the battleforce above, not the start collecting.

     

    Unfortunately I don't know the answer to his question :(

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