[AoS 2 - Maggotkin of Nurgle Discussion]

16 hours ago, sal4m4nd3r said:

 

You should make the leap into the mortal realms! Its a great game and even the competitive scene is filled with chill people. Hope I didn't come across as rude @Zplash! Was not my intention. 50% win rate for EVERY faction means the game is "perfectly balanced. " As close to a 50% win rate on any faction is what be be strived for. Plus or minus a few points probably a function of dice rolls and player skill.  Nurgle is not underpowered, or overpowered. A few units have higher then expected points costs, but nothing holding them back from winning. Nothing pushing them to the top tabled either. 

I will see what I can do about upping that 47.7% at NOVA next week!!!! of course, my homeboi's in this thread will be the first to know

I will surely try

What would you suggest for a beginner ? I do have 60 plaguebearers, bunch of nurglings,  drones from 2x Start collecting, Sloppity, Poxbringer, Scrivener, GUO and 5 Putrids I wanted to use for some conversions. Plus bunch of DG characters I can proxy

Anything particular I should buy right away to boost my forces like Plague Monks ? (I ve heard they are good although it hurts my brain that Skaven are fighting for chaos god Nurgle but w/e)
 

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6 minutes ago, Zplash said:

@sal4m4nd3r you are defending papa nurgle pretty emotional

I think the comment above wasn't meant to bad. But still you are right with your rule description and papa nurgle needs more dedicated people to help his cause. 

Let's see to increase this 47% win rate hehe 

Oh yeah I did not mean to be smug or offend anyone, I just shared what I ve heard and what turned out to be wrong. I hope Salamander saying "Have fun playing 40k! Glad you are sticking with it!" did not basically mean "GTFO" 😛

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2 hours ago, sal4m4nd3r said:

@Kociboss Ahh yes. Mini Wargaming. Battle reports and rules critiques from people who don't understand the rules. The point in the video you are talking about starts at 11m45s for anyone who wants to back me up. They claim for every banner they have in the unit, they get +1 save against shooting. However reading comprehension will win the day. The rule states (emphasis mine):

So even if they had 1000 icon bearers, they would only get +1 to save. So you are correct.. you are entirely wrong.

Have fun playing 40k! Glad you are sticking with it!

Ah there we go. It s kind of a shame that such a popular channel is misleading inexperienced people like me

Thank you for clarifying ! It did sound kind of unlikely but hey... I ve seen some broken combos in 40k so I did not want to judge.

And thank you, I do like 8th edition of 40K I think it s the best so far Just finished another enjoyable game in ITC format.



PS.

Sooner or later I know I will break and try some AoS just to change things up 😜

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1 hour ago, sal4m4nd3r said:

Well you could still take the grandfathers blessing trait for a one time re-set or push forward. And still.. is one caster with no bonus worth those points in a 1kish game? I'd say not. 

 

Sigmar is not as reduced a game in terms of builds as 40k is. Nurgle isnt "bad." They have a 47.7% win ratio on honest wargamer.  Not sure where you heard this. And I have no clue what 2+ save goblin spam is. If you are referring to Gloomspite Gitz faction, I dont know of any 2+ save spam, nor do I know of how you could possibly have 2+ save grots. But Nurgle is a fun army to play, with strong build options depending on your meta.  Plaguebearers and drones make up the core of nurgle demons list. 

I ve heard about shield giving them 5+ save and 3 banners giving them 2+ save vs shooting ? I ve seen some YT video about it I believe but I know nothing about AoS so it might have been entirely wrong.

Anyways 47.7% is pretty terrible indeed. I guess I ll wait for better times for this army and keep on playing 40k


PS.

It was this video where they discuss it:
 

 

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Interesting, I just realized I could basically play AoS right now at 1k points (I ve got plenty of Plaguebearers, drones etc. Could use some of my WH40K conversions as characters).

I ve heard Nurgle / Maggotkin are bad though, correct ? It s all about 2+ Save goblin spam nowadays ?

Not too familiar with Sigmar