EccentricCircle
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13 hours ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said:
Sadly, though, as far as I understand they lost the IP rights to Malal when the freelancer who created him quit working with them. It is unlikely we will see Malal return for that reason. Although I suppose they could reuse the concept of a chaos god of revenge if they just went through a name change and visual redesign. However, that means people won't go "I know what that is" and clap when they see it.
Agreed. If they were really desperate to do it there is precedent for big companies buying out the divided rights from estranged creators (or their heirs). WoTC did that when they got D&D, and basically wrote Gygax and Arneson a check for all the material where the rights were unclear. I believe Marvel has eaten whole companies to get divided IP back under its umbrella etc. I feel as though Malal is too niche for that to be an important consideration though. He has a cult following (appropriate for a chaos god) but isn't exactly the X-Men.
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27 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:
If Hashut gets that first class ticket, is there any other candidate with decent changes after him?
I'm fond of Necoho the god of atheism. there is also Zuvassin god of anarchy though he's not been mentioned in AoS as much.
Neither has real popular awareness though like Hashut does, so I'd say unless they some how bring back Malal there is no one else waiting in the wings.
(My S2D army is a rival to the Everchosen, empowered by all the other gods of chaos so I've read up on them a lot!)
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1 minute ago, Gitzdee said:
Seems like u didnt need any advice XD.
Ha ha yeah, you pretty much recommended precisely what I've been doing! I'm thinking of trying Silver Bayonet soon too. That should be fun.
If anyone knows a good ancients ruleset which is quick and fun for doing Bronze age type stuff then that would be appreciated. This is probably the wrong forum to ask, but I've got a bit of research ahead of me there I think!
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7 hours ago, Gitzdee said:
Im thinking the same. I want to at least try 4th and it seems like we can with free index rules. I can recommend looking into Warcry if u havent already. Fun small quick game u can try and the rules are still free downloads. Frostgrave could also be great if u already have a good collection of minis. No need to buy any. Both games let u build warbands which is kinda fun to gather and put together. Frostgrave can be played by just buying a single book that isnt even that expensive (i think it was around 20 euros when i bought it).
Great advice. Yeah, warcry is the main game I've been playing this year. I'm more of a skirmish player than a mass battle one, and like narratives rather than competitive. So it's nice to be able to do lots of quick games in a session, and really tell a story. i keep meaning to post the battle report from my last warcry campaign actually. I haven't even scratched the surface of the warbands I can build from my models, so lots of potetial there without spending any money.
We got really into x-grave games a couple of years ago and played most of them, but it's been a while since I dusted off the book. As you say the warband options there are even more varied than warcry.
We're also planning a full tilt tournament later in the summer and busy painting knights for that so no shortage of options even ignoring the GW hype cycle!
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Hmm, getting back into historical wargaming sure is looking tempting. I never played 3e AoS, i figured I'd wait for 4e and see how i felt then. Still been collecting my armies, but at this point I've pretty much finished my AoS collection for now. I just want a few more of the new Seraphon and then I've pretty much got multiple full armies in various states of building and painting to be going on with. So no need to start a new warhammer project just for the sake of it. I've been eying some ancient Egyptians from Perry miniatures for a while, so I might dive back i to that for the next year or two and see what GW is doing when I check in again!
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I got into the hobby through the Battle games in middle earth magazine instead so while I read my friends' white dwarf magazines when they brought them into school, I actually never bought one until a couple of years ago when Cursed City came out and they had some extra character profiles for the game!
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2 hours ago, CommissarRotke said:
I dunno about PURE Howard, since Chaos is absolutely a Great Evil the Darkoath have been forced into serving. There's also some pretty clear hypocrisy* on their part--to mirror the hypocrisy of CoS--which I'm not sure if Howard had? the aesthetic and general attitude of darkoath are definitely straight from Howard's barbarians.
*that hypocrisy extends from calling Sigmarites slavers while enslaving and pillaging, to calling mono-worshippers weak while having their own preferred deities that an entire tribe can be named after... which feels very Warhammer-y
Agreed, the Conan stories aee essentially set in the Cthulhu mythos (Howard and Lovecraft were friends). So while terribly "evil" gods exist, they are the uncaring cosmic horror sort. Cults to them exist, but Howard's idolised barbarians have no truck with them. He was all about the idea of some sort of macho primitive ideal, which his heroes are atavistic paragons of. They are pure and uncorrupted in his view because they reject civilisation.
Chaos as alway borrowed some of the look of Frazetta and Brundage's conan covers. However it's ideology owes more to Michael Moorcock. The idea of bartering with mostly uncaring gods of darkness is right out of the Eternal Champion.
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Not really a secret, but when the AoS interest among my friends dried up I started playing solo games against myself. I got really into the narrative and had way more fun than playing against my more competitive minded opponents.
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11 hours ago, Greyshadow said:
I might have mentioned this but my trick is that I have to paint at least 40 minutes per week. That way I am always making progress but never feel bad or burnt out if I can’t manage more than that. I am stupidly busy with work and family but I find the time spent painting calms me and I really enjoy it.
I misread that as "40 miniatures" for a moment then and my mind boggled. 40 minutes seems a very manageable goal though.
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The White Dwarf is everything I hoped he would be. Definitely getting him to lead all my Dawi hosts in every time and setting!
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Great advice here. The hobby isn't a job, you are not under any obligation. You also don't have to be either 100% committed or 100% quit.
I remember two times when I just stopped having any motivation, and had no idea whether I'd pick it all up again or not, but both times it turned out that I just needed to wait for my circumstances to change and then I suddenly found myself dusting off the models from a few years earlier and getting really into it all again. ( far more so in fact than before the lull!)
The first lull was when I was a student. I had no proper painting space, nowhere locally to buy models etc (no ordering online in those days, or it was in its infancy at least!) Not to mention not having the most time or money. I ended up basically just painting during Christmas holidays when I got models as gifts and was back home at my old hobby desk. However I then moved to a town with game shops, into a larger student house with more space, and like minded flatmates and we basically turned the lounge into a hobby and gaming room. Suddenly I had all the motivation and finished two whole armies in the space of a year.
But that burst of productivity then fizzled out as I got towards the middle of my PhD project. I had no bandwidth for anything else, and was so burned out that I just abandoned my half painted projects for a couple of years. Again I thought, "maybe this is it", but actually after finishing my thesis write up I ended up with some free time and picked up the paint brush again. I was sort of still burned out on everything verbal or left brain related, but found it really therapeutic to sit and paint, do arty stuff for a bit.
So don't feel bad about putting your models in a draw and not worrying about them. Sooner or later you might find that things have changed and you are motivated again.
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I think citadel have the advantage of inertia and sunk cost. I'm not opposed to tryung other brands and use army painter and colour forge spray paints a lot.
For regular paint though, I have a large box of citadel pots from the last twenty years, and when one runs out in the middle of a project it's easier to just replace it rather than try something else which won't quite match, or which I'll need to use differently and experiment with to get the same look. I'm thus a bit looked in to using citadel. I certainly can't afford to just replace my pots wholesale, even if it would then be cheaper to replace them in the long run.
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14 hours ago, GloomkingWortwazi said:
This is my understanding, yeah.
I agree wholeheartedly, he's one of their "humanoid monster guys" with a lot of great models under his belt (Troggs, Morbheg, etc.) and executed the brief very well. He's a very talented 3D artist.
I still remain hopeful there is more future intent for the design brief than just a one off choice model.Ooh cool. How do you find out which sculptors worked on which of the newer models? I didn't know we had that information, but I'd love to know who the artists behind my favourite models were.
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2 hours ago, Ejecutor said:
This reminds me of something I saw recently. It wuldn't surprise me if it is something small, like this:
That's awesome!
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Its interesting to see the dichotomy between hobby first folks like myself going "we'd better get the models we like before they're gone" and the game first folks going "glad I didn't buy those models"
Both are legitimate points of views but I'd like to expand on my philosophy a bit in case it helps anyone come to terms with things.
If you are feeling down about having "lost" a lot, remember you don't have to do what gw tells you. There are a lot of great games out there which aren't nearly as prescriptive as warhammer. Casual games, proxying, playing older rulesets, conversions etc. are all valid options.
Rules have always been ephemeral, because gw churn everything as fast as they can get away with so they can sell the same product over and over with pointless changes.
birthday B what 20 years of hobby, and the death and rebirth of games like wfb and necromunda have taught me is that minis are what matter.
So long as you have models you love, you can find ways to use them and their time could well come round again.
But I think getting invested in any one ruleset is risky because frankly GW don't make them to last or give us anything like what would usually be considered long term support. We as a community may find we need to do what the mordheim and inq28 folks have done, and build our own AoS.
So hold ob to the models you've poured love and effort into. And don't let a bunch of corporate shareholders motivated by greed tell you what you can and can't do with them.
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I never got into 3e in the first place, so I'll just keep on using them for second edition, warcry, and mini agnostic games. I'm much more into the hobby than the game anyway, and thankfully this cull doesn't take away much that I wanted to collect. (They already decimated my collection the last three times they did this, so I'm pretty much over it at this point.) I mostly have the models I like and have more fun with old or mini agnostic games anyway. Grognard status here I come I guess.
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1 hour ago, Twisted Firaun said:
HASHUT! HASHUT! HAAAAASSSSSHHHUUUUTTTTT!!!!!
Bless you!
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The 40k people are currently confused and sad that they haven't had much new stuff since the new edition dropped. Short memories, as that literally always happens, but I guess we are more aware of what's going on in 40k than they are in AoS so I guess they pay attention to half as much of what goes on, so are less likely to spot the pattern!
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Excellent. Thanks!
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I enjoyed broken realms a lot. Found Malign portents a little skimpy. I've not read dawnbringers. I couldn't afford that many books, either in terms of money or shelf space so prioritised collecting warcry and soulbound.
I think it manages to be both, but how well it dies that varies. I prefer the large scale stuff to be a setting, and story to mostly stay at the scale of the black library novels or our own campaigns. I don't think they've done a bad job of balancing it, no worse than 40k or wfb. AoS being so vug helps in that respect. But I do agree that the bug earth shattering events don't ever really fulfil their promise...
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15 minutes ago, PinchPainting said:
What the hell actually is this. Why have I never seen this before. Why is gw so bad at letting AOS lore be available to find . This completely changes the soul wars book im reading atm which focus on the reforging process and the storm casts feelings on it and figuring out the flaw.
Yep, it's one of the short stories that led up to the soul wars novel. One of the most pivotal bits of context in the whole setting, and GW just put it out there as a but of marketing fluff and haven't even kept it on their website. Things like the Blacktallon tv show suggest it's still canon though, and it's one hell of a lie...
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"SIGMAR LIED"
My guess is that the lie is about the alleged "flaw" in the reforging process. We've known since Malign Portents in 2018 that the Stormcast have been lied to about why they lose their memories. For reference check out the Malign Portents story "The Price of Apotheosis"
So we are most likely getting the Ruination Chamber at last. Bring on the lightning gheists!-
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Given how long the R&D cycle takes, we can be sure they have the first 2-3 years planned out. Its clear they are planning a relaunch for each faction and some sort of campaign narrative.
I reckon the best comparison is Necromunda, where they gradually introduced each faction with a new plastic kit, while releasing a random assortment of resin models. If it gets that level of support, or maybe between that and what the current edition of Middle Earth has got, then I'll be happy.
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Well, the abilities of all these characters happen to be represented by numerical stats, so surely figuring out which is more powerful is just a matter of comparing their warscrolls?
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The Chaos Duardin Not Unbased Discussion
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What about a giant hat in the form of a cage / iron maiden inside of which an upstart elgi is imprisoned? The sorcerer prophet will mostly be stone anyway, so can cope with the weight!