[Cobra Kai (Zainthar Kai Sect) 3.0 Updated]

in an attempt to decide what to expand my list with to get to 2000pts, and playing with LAB to see what model choices scored what, i think i've settled on this list, as it was the highest scoring and got all the models i wanted, bar the ironscale. units in red are the ones i already own:

Allegiance: Daughters of Khaine
- Grand Strategy:
- Triumphs:

Leaders
Morathi-Khaine (330)*
The Shadow Queen (330)*
Bloodwrack Shrine (190)*
- General
Hag Queen (105)*

Battleline
5 x Blood Sisters (140)*
10 x Blood Stalkers (340)*
- Reinforced x 1
20 x Sisters of Slaughter (270)*
- Barbed Whips and Sacrificial Knives
- Reinforced x 1

Units
5 x Khinerai Heartrenders (95)*

Behemoths
Avatar of Khaine (135)*

Endless Spells & Invocations
Heart of Fury (55)

Core Battalions
*Battle Regiment

Total: 1990 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 2 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 100
Drops: 1

 

[AoS3 - Soulblight Gravelord Discussion]

8 hours ago, BoozedUp said:

You're right!  I knew that, too.  

I guess I would split the Grave Guard into min sized units of ten?  Or do you think having one unit of skellies at x20 and then using the reinforcement on the grave guard would be of better use of it?

well, i'd probably do this:

since you have 60 skellies and 20 GG, i'd arrange them as:

20 Skellies

20 skellies

20 skellies

20 GG

 

this way, its the exact same model count, you're now using 4/4 reinforcement points, and you gained an extra unit for securing objectives.

 

Or, if you know you're playing a objective-heavy battleplan, make the 3rd unit of skellies into 2 groups of 10 to camp near objectives if necessary.

[AoS3 - Soulblight Gravelord Discussion]

27 minutes ago, BoozedUp said:

Hey fellas, if you don't mind could I get a little feedback on this list for some casual games against my buddy?  I was thinking legion of night, but I haven't got all the details worked out.  I was going to go with something like...

 

VLoZD 

Necromancer

Radukar the Beast

Wight King on Steed

Deathrattle skellies x30

Deathrattle skellies x30

Graveguard x20

Vargheist x3

 

It ends up being 1950 points on battlescribe.

Any feedback is appreciated!

If i'm not mistaken, i think one of your reinforced units have to go down by 10 models.  by the new rules, you've reinforced your skellies twice each, and the grave guard once. that totals 5.  and the Contest of Generals chart says for a 2K list, you can only do 4.

[Soulblight Gravelords FAQ question collection]

As i understand it, in regards to the Red Banqueters battalion, the general consensus goes as follows;

If a required selection in the Battalion is in Bold, then it's referring to the Keyword.  See Deathmarch's Wight King, and Deathstench Drove's Corpse Carts on the page opposite in the battletome as reference examples.  This means any unit with that keyword can be chosen.

If a required selection in the Battalion is not in bold, then its referring to a warscroll that has that name, or, a part of the name has that word; as vlad had shown with a screenshot from the core rules book:

Not simply typing Vampire Lord in bold, which would make it clear that both Vampire Lord, and Vampire Lord on Zombie Dragon are both valid options, prevents people from selecting the named vampires (Belladamma Volga, Lady Annika, Kritza, Radukar the Wolf, Radukar the Beast) Which seems to be the generally agreed upon way to read it.

 

I dont think there would be too many that would be obnoxious about the Battalion's requirements, except for the few that would insist on RAW it to deny the VLOZD purely because they don't want to face it.

 

But having them address it by making an errata that says to rewrite it as 2+ Vampire Lords and/or VLOZD for the sake of making it explicitly clear for anyone that wants to RAW it instead of RAI it, would be nice.

[Soulblight Gravelords FAQ question collection]

6 hours ago, vlad3theimpaler said:

It's not just the skeleton warriors that got the increased save, though.  Blood Knights also lost the crypt shield special rules and got the improved save baked in.

The Black Knights are the anomalous unit, so it's reasonable to think that it was an error in their warscroll.

yes, but them being brought up to a 3+ save, like with deathrattle, meant a vampire unit with a different save stat is now the same stat as the other vampire units; all the vampires in the book are now a 3+ save, and all skeletons are a 5+. thats not an omission, so much as standardization of the statline across all units of a given type. The VLOZD also lost his ancient shield that made him go from a 4+ to a 3+, and its now just a 3+ by default.  mannfred, neferata, vhordrai, duvalle, lauka, vengorian lords, vampire lords, VLOZD, and blood knights are all a 3+ now. and the vyrkos dynasty vampires are all a 4+ (so i guess lycan vampires prefer less armor).  the only 'normal' vampires with a save thats worse than a 3+, is the crimson court, but that entry has its own slew of problems.

[Soulblight Gravelords FAQ question collection]

On 5/17/2021 at 3:05 AM, Neil Arthur Hotep said:

 Black Knights have lost their Crypt Shields ability, they have not received +1 to saves like other units that previously had this ability. Was this an oversight?

after reading through my copy that finally arrived, i don't think this one was an oversight at all;

before, black knights and grave guard had a save of 5+, and skeleton warriors had a 6+.  Both the Knights and the Warriors lost the crypt shields' ability, but the warriors gained +1 save. 

I think it's actually 2 separate changes being confused for a single one because we're focused on the warriors;

• the first being removing the shields and making them unique to sword&board grave guard to make you decide if you prefer +1 saves or 2 Damage weapons on the Grave Guard. 
• The other, being them increasing the base Save of Warriors to a 5+ so they're in line with all the other deathrattle units that are not Leader caste.

It's conjecture on my part, i admit, but that seems to be the logic behind that one.

[Anvil of Blood Hero Showcase]

These are for the Crimson Court models: