[AoS3 - Lumineth Realm-lords Discussion]

On 8/20/2021 at 11:28 PM, John Edwards said:

My gaming group are starting things up again with an escalation campaign, now covid restrictions are winding down. Details here: https://www.2d6.club/events/aos-escalation-campaign-2022/

 

The campaign will escalate to 1500pts, any thoughts on my list? I'm hoping to use Transporting Vortex to move my Eltharion or my Wardens where I need them, with Forward to Victory and potentially Bloodthirsty to help with the odds of a teleport + charge move.

 

Allegiance: Lumineth Realm Lords
- Great Nation: Zaitrec
- Mortal Realm: Hysh
- Grand Strategy: Hold the Line
- Triumphs: Bloodthirsty

Leaders
Hurakan Windmage (120)*
- General
- Command Trait: Fast Learner
- Artefact: Gift of Celennar
- Extra Spell: Transporting Vortex
- Lore of the Winds: Calming Zephyr
Scinari Cathallar (145)*
- Extra Spell: Lambent Light
- Lore of Hysh: Total Eclipse
The Light of Eltharion (250)*
Vanari Bannerblade (120)*
- Artefact: Arcane Tome (Universal Artefact)
- Extra Spell: Protection of Hysh
- Lore of Hysh: Speed of Hysh

Battleline
20 x Vanari Auralan Wardens (290)**
- Lore of Hysh: Ethereal Blessing
- Reinforced x 1
20 x Vanari Auralan Sentinels (300)**
- Universal Spell Lore: Ghost-mist
- Reinforced x 1
5 x Vanari Dawnriders (140)**
- Lore of Hysh: Speed of Hysh

Units
5 x Vanari Bladelords (130)*

Core Battalions
*Warlord
**Vanguard

Additional Enhancements
Artefact

Total: 1495 / 1500
Reinforced Units: 2 / 3
Allies: 0 / 300
Wounds: 82
Drops: 8
 

I'm not too experienced, so I might be missing something, but I think only the Sentinels unit OR the Dawnriders unit can be Battleline (not both), since there's only one unit of Wardens. However, since you have Scinari character in the Cathallar, the Bladelord unit can become Battleline.

[Path to Glory 3.0 Wizard Limits Hurt Lumineth]

1 hour ago, Arzalyn said:

It don't help with the Heroes that are wizards, all of them have the keyword, but the units like wardens, sentinels and dawnriders don't have the WIZARD keyword on their warscroll. The lack of the keyword should mean they don't count to the max number of wizard you can include.

1.3.2 Keywords states that "Every warscroll includes a list of keywords that apply to all of the models in a unit that uses that warscroll."

1.3.2 Keywords also states "Keywords appear in KEYWORD BOLD in the rules..."

22.6 Keywords says "Sometimes you will be allowed to give a keyword to a unit for a battle. If you do so, treat the unit as having that keyword on its warscroll for the duration of the battle."

Vanari Auralan Sentinels warscroll, for example, states "The High Sentinel of this unit is a WIZARD while this unit has 5 or more models."

The warscroll is the entire page. The word WIZARD appears on the warscroll, and in KEYWORD BOLD, indicating it is a KEYWORD. The Keyword section only states keywords that ALL the models in the unit have. Only the High Sentinel model in the unit has the WIZARD keyword, so it wouldn't be in the bottom row. But the High Sentinel, itself, still has the WIZARD keyword.

I hope you're right, in that they don't count against the Wizard limit, but rulewise, it doesn't seem so IMO.

[Path to Glory 3.0 Wizard Limits Hurt Lumineth]

In Path to Glory Step 3 - Order of Battle, the Starting Order of Battle Limits has WIZARD units at a maximum limit of 1. Now we can get Arcane Waypoints as territories to get +1 WIZARDS, and eventually upgrade those to increase +3 instead of +1. But the issue still stands: early on in a campaign, the WIZARD limit of 1 is bad for Lumineth, as most unit champs and HEROES are WIZARDS. Am I missing something?