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22 minutes ago, Alpidur said:
edit: to use warlord I need to put acient general…so I am confused 🙂)
Actually you dont need. For Warlord you need 1 commander(Hero not general) 2 heroes less 10 wounds and 1 unit.
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28 minutes ago, Ching Wing said:
Yeah I also brought 4 monsters so it was easier to keep them alive bc of that haha her sniping is pretty cool though and definitely helps with mobility if they have clogged the trees so you can’t teleport.
Could you share your list, please?
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5 hours ago, Xil said:
Can we have our own subforum now? Would be nice to have one like Daughters of Khaine. Wonder why this is not a thing for everyone
Only after the release of the new battle tome
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Update my file, added battalions to units, changed the cost of Endless spell to correct.
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26 minutes ago, Arzalyn said:
She is the Commander, which doesn't care about her wounds (should had put her at the start of the list to avoid confusion).
Oh, now its clear
I really like your list, but I want to try out the Warsong MW bomb, so I'll change it up a bit
SpoilerAllegiance: Sylvaneth Glade: Gnarlroot Leaders: Battalions: General: Warsong Revenant Battle Regiment 275 Command trait: Nurtured By Magic (Gnarlroot) Artefact: Chalice Of Nectar (Gnarlroot) Deepwood spell: Branchwraith Warlord 95 Artefact: Spiritsong Stave Deepwood spell: Throne of Vines Drycha Hamadreth Warlord 330 Artefact: Deepwood spell: Regrowth Arch-Revenant Warlord 105 Artefact: Deepwood spell: Battleline Dryads - 20 Battle Regiment 190 Dryads - 20 Battle Regiment 190 Tree Revenants - 5 Warlord 80 Unit Kurnoth Hunters with Scythes - 6 Battle Regiment 430 Kurnoth Hunters with Swords - 3 Battle Regiment 225 Behemoths Endless Spells / Terrain / Extra Command Point Umbral Spellportal 70 Battalions Wounds 117 Total points 1990 -
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14 hours ago, Arzalyn said:Battalions wound be:- Warlord: Arch, Wraith, Drycha and one Tree-rev unit.
Drycha - 10 wounds
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Am i understood right - no more balewind vortex? 😕
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So warscroll builder didnt update yet, and i create a little tool by myself. Sharing with you , guys. Hope it will be useful
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And Alarielle now has a discount - 225 points
if she doesnt die at the beginning of the game.
In general, the changes are not that big. Maybe this will help to accept:
Old New % Change Alarielle 740 740 0% Warsong 275 275 0% Arch-Revenant 100 105 5% Branchwraith 80 95 16% Branchwych 80 90 11% Drycha Hamadreth 300 330 9% Spirit of Durthu 300 340 12% Treelord Ancient 260 295 12% Ylthari 180 150 -20% Dryads 100 95 -5% Spite Revenants 60 70 14% Tree Revenants 80 80 0% Skaeth's Wyld Hunt 120 110 -9% Kurnoth Hunters with Bows or Swords 190 225 16% Kurnoth Hunters with Scythes 190 215 12% Treelord 180 190 5% Spiteswarm Hive 50 40 -25% Gladewyrm 30 60 50% Vengeful Skullroot 40 95 58%
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2 minutes ago, brattenbergus said:
The picture that I have seen it says that Alarielle will Cost 740p though?
Yes, Alarielle changed and increased with Broken realms - Kragnos to 740
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Good things are with these changes - Warsong revenant shines now.
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Increased points for all armies. The smaller the table - the smaller armies.
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1 hour ago, HollowHills said:
Have I missed something lately? According to these stats Idoneth have become a S tier army. Obviously the broken realms morathi changes were appreciated, but I didn't think they would shift us much.
Nice A tier Beast of Chaos *CoolStoryBob * black horses of shooting meta.
IDK strong army and top 5 for sure, but this stats are meh ;\ since the data is generalized. for some factions, some of their sub-fractions are much more powerful than others. For example, for the LRL (data from the LRL sub-forum) the Syar has a winrate of 57.35%, and the Yimetrica is 34%, while the average LRL winrate is 45%. Surely everyone will play Syar at major tournaments. And they obviously won't be C tier.
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13 minutes ago, DantePQ said:
How I didn't include new stuff ?
- I have Heart of Fury
- list wouldn't be possible with old points
- Whichbrew was never "the buff" and I still have it on Hag Queen. Is it worse ? Surely is but that doesn't change the fact that it's still there, and Heart of Fury more the makes up for it.
Also it's one list I came up with on the fly - Hammertime is some kind of TTS tournament ? As I don't really follow TTS. Already made some changes to lists after studying book more.
Fact is all units but Hags compared to old book got better or cheaper (or both). Also it has so many options
Actually I'm not sure if it's fair to consider the new models as part of a new book. Since the cases when the model comes out separately from the book are frequent. Nevertheless, using the old cost, you can collect the same roster + a new prayer. The only difference is there is no additional CP, but I would prefer 100% witchbrew than that.
Unfortunately for me, the new book has deprived me of a variety of choices to play aelves or melusai. because now I see that melusai are less dependent on successful throws of prayers and being in a bubble. But I'm probably just not a very experienced and good player.
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1 hour ago, DantePQ said:
Every unit got better or cheaper. Battalions are still very useful for many reasons
Cauldron Guard - cheapest way to get lower drop, extra CP, extra item and very good ability that makes your Lifetakers much better.
Slaughter Troupe - retreat and charge is massive, you don't need Hag Queen that much these days so Slaughter Queen slots nicely in to cast prayers and Heart of Fury
Shadowpatrol - much better as Warlocks are cheaper and have +1 to cast while 5+ and Lifetakers are better. Also you can teleport units out of combat with it now
Scathcoven - free BS immunity and quite flexible organisation
Vyperic Guard - enables low drop Melusai army and for 140 it's bascially 1 extra CP and lower drops.
Sisters of Slaughter - still amazing
Blood Sisters - much better compared to old book - as you have ways to have them buffed with extra attacks one of them (Morathi buff) is quite easy to achieve, also with Ironscale they are faster and cheaper 130 is very good. Horde discount is not an issue - they were 480 for 20 before, now they are 520 for 20, and any time you don't run 20 they are cheaper
Doomfire - actually better, spell got a it but you almost never used them - now they are bascially a 10W spellcaster with +1 to cast, quite good.
Morathi - still a boss, rend1-2 doesn't matter much she got such a huge warscroll boost anyway.
Wholly within on HaggNarr stuff doesn't matter much as it won't impact how Hag Nar plays - you castle up, soak up dmg and they run&charge. Competitive wise it very similar, maybe change some army composition, but with better Morathi and how crazy Heart of Fury could be (as you can put it up on the board and move units into it's aura) HaggNarr will be much better - especially with how insane Shadowstalkers are. Lifetakers are another unit people sleep on - extra rend and extra attacks thanks to Morathi is huge, 10 of them cost 160 can drop them anywhere near Morathi and they are +1rend, +1dmg on charge and +1A from Morathi with possible upside of casting Mindrazor.
Also other temples got buffs - Khailebron, Khelt-Ner could be amazing, Draichi Ganethas well.
Like I've been playing DoK since old book was released won a fair share of tournaments (including London GT 2019) and this book is big buff. My go-to competitive list will be like this I think
Morathi - Mindrazor
Hag Queen on Cauldron - Blessing of Khaine, Ulfuri
10 Witches with bucklers
10 Witches with bucklers
30 Sisters of Slaughter with bucklers/knives
10 Stalkers
9 Shadowstalkers
9 Shadowstalkers
Heart of Fury
Extra CP
But I have highly competitive Melusai list as well.
So many exciting stuff, bascially the only thing that was nerfed is Witchbrew and Witches everything else got much better or cheaper or in some cases both.
Thank you for very interesting opinion, and very cool when opinions differ. I ve one question : Why didnt you include any of these "buff" to your list?
As i can see your list almost the same as HAMMERTIME 7 DoK's players. But you lost witchbrew and what did you get in return? Where is the buff?
Thank you
AoS 2 - Sylvaneth Discussion
in Sylvaneth
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Mb something like this:
Allegiance: Sylvaneth
- Glade: Gnarlroot
- Mortal Realm: Ghur
Branchwraith (95) in Warlord
- Artefact: Spiritsong Stave
- Deepwood Spell: Throne of Vines
Treelord Ancient (295) in Warlord
- Deepwood Spell: Verdurous Harmony
Drycha Hamadreth (330) in Battle Regiment
- Deepwood Spell: Regrowth
Warsong Revenant (275) in Warlord
- General
- Command Trait: Nurtured by Magic
- Artefact: Chalice of Nectar
10 x Dryads (95) in Warlord
5 x Tree-Revenants (80) in Battle Regiment
5 x Tree-Revenants (80) in Battle Regiment
6 x Kurnoth Hunters with Kurnoth Scythes (430) in Battle Regiment
- Reinforced x 1
Treelord (190) in Battle Regiment
Spiteswarm Hive (40)
Umbral Spellportal (70)
Total: 1980 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 1 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 96
Stave for more summoning, portal for Warsong MW bomb