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9 hours ago, Chumphammer said:
*Insert Mad Cackling*
2 Drop Morathi-Gotrek
24 bodies, how you want to secure objectives?
Dmg output in this list looks poor too.
Nice idea but this list has nothing: No bodies, no screen, no damage.
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3 hours ago, Shmaravoz said:
Guys, need an advice. How competitive do you think this snake list is? And how would you improve it?
Zainhar Kai
600 Morathi
110 Melusai Ironscale110 Melusai Ironscale
90 Hag Queen
10 x 280 Blood Sisters
10 x 260 Blood Stalkers
10 x 260 Blood Stalkers
140 Battalion Vymperic Guard
80 Heart of Fury
40 Snake (endless spell)
Total Points 1970Or
Zainhar Kai
600 Morathi
110 Melusai Ironscale110 Melusai Ironscale
15 x 420 Blood Sisters
10 x 260 Blood Stalkers
10 x 260 Blood Stalkers
140 Battalion Vymperic Guard
40 Snake (endless spell)
+ 1 CP (50 pts)
Total Points 1990Both are illegal, Stalkers are 140 pts so you are over 2000 pts.
Besides this I don’t like Hag in heavy snakes lists.
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New temples
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4 minutes ago, Bonesplitterz said:
Anyone can explain the CoM nerf to me please? It’s was already combat phase only before... what did I missed here?
thanks!
You missed nothing, some poeple playing wrong way
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14 minutes ago, Lanoss said:
@Nuitari does it do the same thing? Wholly within what?
That’s all I have for now 🙁
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6 hours ago, jhamslam said:
Khailebron
1. -1 to hit for missile weapons
2. Teleport
3. General is -1 to hit in melee
4. Unmod 6s do 1 Mortal wound
Teleport in move phase?
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1 hour ago, Lanoss said:
Any changes to witch brew or the prayers?
Witchbrew on 4+ round1, 3+ in hagg nar, then 3+/2+ round 2 and wholy within
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2 hours ago, Graywater said:
And I hope they say morathi can't go in lauchon's boat. Seems like an oversight/mistake when they FAQd her from not being able to go on the balewind instead of the boat. The balewind isn't nearly as big of an issue.
If They change Mirror Dance it doesn’t mattet if she can go with boat.
Maybe Witchbrew will be like prayer, we have to roll for it.
We have to see all changes to see what will work.
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11 hours ago, Eternalis said:
Hi guys,
Could you tell me what you think about my list? I'm going to a 1k tournament in my LGS and this is what I'll field :
Temple: Hagg NarLEADERS
Hag Queen on Cauldron of Blood (290) - General - Command Trait: Devoted Disciples - Prayer: Catechism of Murder
Bloodwrack Medusa (140) - Artefact: Shadow Stone - Lore of Shadows: MindrazorUNITS
5 x Khinerai Heartrenders (90)
30 x Sisters of Slaughter (300) - Barbed Whips and Bladed Bucklers
10 x Witch Aelves (120) - Pairs of Sacrificial Knives
Extra Command Point (50)
Total : 990pts.
I was wondering if I should get rid of the cauldron to field more bodies. I would have gladly switch the Khinerais for the Shadowstalkers, but I don't have the models (WYSIWYG tournament).Hey, this is solid list but I would do some changes:
Replace Medusa and Hag on CoB for Hag on foto and Slaughter Queen on CoB - her CA is a game changer
That’s what I would take for 1k
Allegiance: Daughters of Khaine
- Temple: Hagg Nar
LEADERS
Slaughter Queen on Cauldron of Blood (330)
- General
- Command Trait: Devoted Disciples - Artefact: Iron Circlet
- Prayer: Blessing of Khaine
Hag Queen (100)
- Prayer: Catechism of Murder
UNITS
10 x Sisters of Slaughter (120)
- Barbed Whips and Sacrificial Knives
30 x Witch Aelves (300)
- Sacrificial Knives and Blade Bucklers
5 x Khinerai Heartrenders (90)
ENDLESS SPELLS / TERRAIN / COMMAND POINTS
Extra Command Point (50)
TOTAL: 990/2000
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2 hours ago, Boar said:
After moving them in Lauchon in hero phase I suppose?
20 Stalkers doesn’t fit WW 3” of Lauchon
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I’m actually 8-1 vs KO including one tournament final (we were only two 2-0 players)
My opponents almost always had first turn, sometimes I take 40-50 wounds - doesn’t matter
I always put Stalkers on back, and in front in the same line I put 10 sisters/ 30 WE (depend of list I’m playing) and Shadow Queen.
If he want to focus fire on Stalkers he will be in range of my melle units and Shadow Queen, If he shoot to my battleline then Stalkers are almost untuched.
KO are low on bodies, and everything is importach for them. -1 to hit is a nightmare for KO.
If I get first turn I just dubble shoot to Clad and he lost his mobillity -
21 minutes ago, Graywater said:
I can look at it and say with certainty that it's way stronger than what I've been running for this year. Which is what stands out to me, as I get told that my list is tough to manage as it is at every tournament I go to by at least one opponent.
Personally I love the way it plays. Just watched it play on YouTube with the goldcon coverage. But I do think it's maybe a little too strong/problematic for the game. Dont want to see daughters return to their overpowered days when they first came out.
That’s true. I prefer to play as underdog, when I’m not on radar with my army.
New book change a lot, and maybe old good hag narr with elves will be better choice.
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17 minutes ago, Graywater said:
It seems quite oppressive to play against. Im not sure I'd go too far out of my way to play with it unless you own all the pieces already. At least until the new book. Hard to say what we will and won't have access to with new rules.
Since december I played 20+ games with different dok lists (including two 1dayer tornaments) and thats true - it’s hard to play against this.
1 hour ago, RickFlair said:I'll have to give that list a try. When it comes to theory crafting and understanding the subtleties of list, I am admittedly bad haha.
If you have everything it’s gas, realy powerfull and lot of tricks. If you planing to buy something, propably better to wiat for new book.
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3 hours ago, RickFlair said:
Looking at building a list for an upcoming game. What is the significance of mirror dance? In what instances would you break that spell out? Wouldn't The Wintering be a better option? Or is the goal of the this list literally just to keep shifting units on the board so much so that its a total pain in the butt for the enemy to pin down a unit to attack?
Morathi-Khaine cast Lauchon and move herself closer to enemy, Medusa with mirror dance swap Shadow Queen with Morathi, Shadow Queen can move and is close to biggest treat, she recive 3 wounds already from Lauchon and she can tie enemys. You team can grab objectives, takie good position and biggest treat is out of action. Even without this I don’t like Withering.
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2 minutes ago, DJMoose said:
Currently wishful thinking unless you found a leak somewhere? Or was there a Warhammer Community preview already?
Leak, but I trust this source.
As I sad, for now just split Blood Sisters and it’s fine
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17 minutes ago, swarmofseals said:
@Nuitari you're missing a battleline
Blood Stalkers are battleline after new book with Medusa or Ironscale
for now you can split 10 sisters for 2x5
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12 hours ago, swarmofseals said:
I think that access to Vyperic Guard and Scathcoven in non Cobra Kai temples puts and end to my Temple Nest experiments, although the announcement of the new tome really obviates any experimentation until the new book is out.
With that said, here's my vote for the most busted list of the soon to be sunset tome:
Morathi
Medusa
20 Stalkers
2x5 Sisters
10 Witch Aelves/Sisters of Slaughter
Vyperic Guard
This leaves 160 points which should probably be spent on either a Hag Queen or a unit of Khainite Shadowstalkers plus an endless spell (if the metagame supports going to 3 drops) or 10 further Witch Aelves/Sisters of Slaughter if it doesn't.
Subfaction is Khailebron.
Nice list, now I’m playing similar
Morathi w Mindrazor
Shadow Queen
Medusa w Mirror Dance
20 Blood Stalkers
10 Blood Sisters
10 Sisters of Slaughter w bucklets9 Khanite Shadowstalkers
Lauchon
Vyperic Guard
3 drop list with lot of muvement tricks
W’ll se how it survivalu new book and how add endless spelle
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4 hours ago, Graywater said:
The shadow queen only gets her armor save and FF if she is directly targeted. Otherwise, if morathi khaine is targeted, she would get her save and FF roll, but any wounds that would be allocated would then go directly to the shadow queen with no FF or armor save roll. This is because allocating wounds happens after armor saves, and the one soul, two bodies rule says any wounds transfered through this method cannot be negated.
For now you have FF ONLY on Shadow Queen, on Morathi-Khaine you don’t roll for FF.
Core rules: hit roll, wound, roll, save roll, allocating wounds, wounds negation (FF)
One soul, two bodies: you don’t allocate wounds on Morathi-Khaine, (you don’t have FF), wounds are allocated to Shadow Queen and cant be negated.
Resume: Your opponent can chose if he hit Morathi with -1 to hit or Shadow Queen with FF
If you roll FF for Morathi you are playing wrong
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4 minutes ago, DJMoose said:
1. I believe after the faq the Temple Nest ability happens after rerolls but before modifiers.
2. Morathi-Khaine still gets a normal armor save and her Fanatical Faith save. If you fail your Fanatical Faith save, then you cannot by any means prevent the wound to Morathi-Khaine from going to the Shadow Queen. The advantage of course is Morathi-Kahine is effectively unharmed and the wound goes to The Shadow Queen. Also, The 3 wounds that can be inflicted from the Iron Heart of Khaine is still in effect. Morathi-Kahine and the Shadow Queen combiined can only suffer 3 wounds per turn.
You are wrong.
You don’t alocate wounds on Morathi-Khaine so you don’t have ward save
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5 hours ago, DJMoose said:
Interesting. How did it play?
I have simply plan for games:
Morati and Queen ties up biggest treats, Stalkers shoot them out, and Sisters grab objectives and screening.
KO - S-tier - hard MU, they can shoot you easy for 40 dmg, you have to protect Stalkers. They have similiar plan for game, teleport-fly high- and shoot everything.
Khorne that was easy game, opp played mortals list, Queen ties up 30 Blood Warriors and hit them for 27 dmg!! Game was over after round 2. I lost 5 sisiters, my opponent eberything except one hero and unit of 5 warriors.
Teleport and shooting in hero phase are MVP. I set up my Stalkers and Meduza as far as possible vs shooting, and if I have opportunity I give first turn to opponent (when I get dubble - it’s devastating for them) and in my first I teleport Stalkers and shoot twice. Never played vs LRL but I can imagine I want go first to shoot Teclis in firs activation.
I’m realy happy with snakes, Stalkers are great, Sisters are just for screening and cannon fooder, don’t care about them much. -
1 hour ago, Jacek said:
Shooting army then seems bad idea, thank you all for pointing my mistakes.
I realy like shooting list I’m testing
Morathi 210Withering
Shadow Queen 390
Meduza 140Mindrazor
5 Blood Sisters 140
5 Blood Sisters 140
5 Blood Sisters 140
5 Blood Stalkers 140
20 Blood Stalkers 560
Temple Nest 130
Khailebron
3 dropy 1990 ptsI’m 1-1 against KO (Barak Zilfin)
Won vs Khorne (mortals) and OBR, on friday I’ll be playing vs CoS.
This is realy strong right now, maybe little tweeks and change in numbers: 10,5,5 sisters and 15,5 stalkers but I’m not sure. -
7 hours ago, Jacek said:
I made a list of shooting DoK, 2 drop total and made to buff Blood Stalkers as much as possible (I think)
Allegiance: Daughters of Khaine
- Temple: Khailebron
LEADERS
Bloodwrack Medusa (140)
- General
- Command Trait: Mistress of Illusion
- Artefact: Shadow Stone
- Lore of Shadows: Steed of Shadows
Hag Queen (100)
- Artefact: Iron Circlet
- Prayer: Catechism of Murder
Morathi-Khaine (210)
- Lore of Shadows: The Withering
The Shadow Queen (390)
UNITS
10 x Witch Aelves (120)
- Sacrificial Knives and Blade Bucklers
10 x Witch Aelves (120)
- Sacrificial Knives and Blade Bucklers
5 x Blood Sisters (140)
15 x Blood Stalkers (360)
5 x Khinerai Lifetakers (80)
5 x Khinerai Lifetakers (80)
BATTALIONS
Cauldron Guard (120)
Vyperic Guard (140)
TOTAL: 2000/2000 WOUNDS: 99
Due to points limitation - losing 1 artefact but it is 2 drop total and also got 3 CP + 1 free command ability from Vyperic Guard
In theory can get nice dmg output (if you get double turn then should be horryfing):
1. give your opponent 1st turn (as we try to aim for fast double turn)
Your hero phase:
2. on your first turn teleport Blood Stalkers into range of shooting (24") if they are out of it (remember to keep them in range of Morathi and Hag Queen)
If they are already in range - can teleport Morathi so she is in range of the withering (18") on enemy and still in range of her Command Ability (Blood Stalkers wholly in 24"). Can save it for something else if no need for above teleports
3. Prayer: Catehism of Murder on blood Stalkers (circlet makes it easier)
4. Morathi casts the withering on Blood Stalkers target (+1 to wound)
5. PEW PEW PEW in hero phase - 30 attacks, 3+ (6s are mortal wounds AND additional hit if prayer kicks in) / 3+ (2+ with withering) / rend -1
Your Shooting Phase
6. repeat PEW PEW PEW (same as point 5)
7. If there is double turn - repeat from point 2.
Khinerai are there to help get objectives
Shadow Queen can aslo combat something etc.Witch Aelves are for battlelines limit only and also fit into battalion , can use those as screens
What do you think?
You cannot use vyperic guard with khailebron until FAQ or new book explain this.
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Tommorow I’ll try shooting list vs Khorne
Morathi (Withering) 210
Shadow Queen 390
Meduza (Mindrazor) 140
5 Blood Sisters 140
5 Blood Sisters 140
5 Blood Sisters 140
5 Blood Stalkers 140
20 Blood Stalkers 560
Temple Nest 130
Khailebron
3 drops 1990 ptsI’ve played two games with similiar list vs KO (Barak Zilfin) and went 1-1.
Khailebron Sect 3.0 Updated
in Daughters of Khaine
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Ok, if You played vs opponents that fight vs Gotrek - No questions
He is so slow, threat you can easily avoided.
Mindrazor is now 8+ so you cannot count on it.
Dubble shooting is great, but in fact, your opponent have to kill 10 snakes, deal 3 dmg per turn to Morathi and avoid Gotrek - thats all
I can't imagine how I could win with this list