[AoS 2 - Har Kuron (Broken Realms: Morathi) Discussion]

46 minutes ago, Kramer said:

Okay completely different direction. Started with the ‘musts’ just because I think the models are cool and I want to play them. (Black dragon, witch elf, cauldron, executioners.) 

then started thinking about making them work.  I ended up with this. Still missing an anvil style unit and anything movement shananigy 

Basic idea is that the dark shard are super solid. So their coming along in numbers. The dragon combos nicely in the battalion. Dreadspears for screens, stabs and throwaway. (Although at a pinch 21 3+ 4+ attacks with an option for 20 more and exploding 6’s and on of them at-1 rend, ain’t bad)

executions still the only source for mortals  and I just love my old metal ones. 
Witch combo just blends.

a guest on the honest wargamer talked about how the balewind actually adds an extra 3 or 4 inches on the turn it’s set ups. Which makes vitriolic spray an option for me. So I’m willing to give that a go. 

got three threats. A little bit of mobility due to the dragon and screen and most of my favourite dark elf models 😅. 

Thoughts? Especially if I missed something. 

I'm still new to this, so please correct me if I'm wrong.  But don't you need 8 units to include 2 DoK, and by my count you're at 7 unless the Vortex counts?  Might need to split the dreadspears up I'd guess.  

[Broken Realms: Morathi - SPOILER Discussion + Lore Summary]

6 hours ago, silverstu said:

Thing to remember is these are souls that escaped so they need an essence to form around. 

I don't think Aenarion fits with Lumineth- they have Tyrion, Khaine's essence was stolen by Morathi, Not sure how he would sit in with Malerion- [I can't see them appearing just yet and I think Aenarion will feature relatively soon in the story]. 

I really think the Kurnoth line would work - there's an essence there to claim, its a vehicle to resurrect Kurnoth and bring in the Kurothi and plus Kurnoth is a pretty angry character. 

The other side I think is they might do something completely new with him- maybe leading the remaining Aelves in the cities [which would seem a bit odd as they are classic HE and Lumineth are essentially AOS version classic HE.

So I'm still betting on Kurnoth reborn [also because I reeeeaaaaaallly want Kurnothi!]. But then again - the GW fluff says that spirits [plural] escaped so what happens to the others...

I'm not sure how Sigmar will treat Morathi- she did betray him, but also thwarted the chaos plans to invade Asyr and became more powerful, therefore more useful in the fight  against Chaos. I think he will keep his distance but I doubt he will go after her as she has allies with the Idoneth. The Order alliance is looking distinctly more fractured.. Can't wait to see what Grungni gets up to in this story line [if he appears].

I'd be particularly interested in seeing what would happen if he tried joining up with Malerion, but if GW did want to reinvest in Cities of Sigmar after it's popularity, Aenarion could provide one avenue.  Have him return and revitalize  Phoenicium

[AoS 2 - Har Kuron (Broken Realms: Morathi) Discussion]

1 hour ago, Kramer said:

I struggle with two things.  So help an elfy  brother out 

one is MW outpUt. Love my executioner models. But they aren’t as good as I need them to be to fill this hole. 
 

 

I'm thinking for MW is Har Kuron we might be looking towards the updated Melusai.  The Blood Sisters' updated Turned to Crystal ability or the Blood Stalkers' now having 2 shots to try and proc Heartseeker on 6s

[AoS 2 - Har Kuron (Broken Realms: Morathi) Discussion]

4 hours ago, Greed said:

What do you guys think on this list:

 

Leaders :
Sorceress - Spell: Vilitrolic Spray - 90
Morathi-Khaine - Spell : The Withering  / Shadow Queen  - 600
Sorceress on Black Dragon - Spell: Vilitrolic Spray / Command trait: Murderous Zeal / Artefact: Traitors Banner - 300

Units :

30x Execuitioners - 300
30x Darkshards - 300
10x Dreadspears - 90

3x Scourgerunner Chariot 210

Endless Spells / Terrain / Extra Command Point :

Umrball Spellportal - 70
Balewind Vortex - 40

Battallions:

Kraeth's Shadowpact - 160

****

2000 pts 

 

I'm really not sure about the Black Dragon Sorc + Battallion, they took a lot of points which i would like to spend in Black Guard Horde

The Battalion is specifically Drusa Kraeth, not just any sorceress on Dragon, thus You'd have to take The Whisperers command trait and no artifact, though you could switch those to your on foot sorceress.  Honestly not sure on battalion, Drusa herself ends up pretty limited by being a named character, though 90 crossbow shots, particularly into a vitriolic sprayed unit is going to hurt.

[AoS 2 - Har Kuron (Broken Realms: Morathi) Discussion]

3 hours ago, Greed said:

Great Battlereport! Thank you!

The Dude should give the sorc the prayer generals trait for exploding sixes. 

Further i think Morathi + Dragon is very expensive. Two Sorcs could be more effective. I would drop the Drakenspawns (they need dreadlord-support) and get some Black Guards and Executioners. Both provide from the prayer or Sorc-Support. Sourge Runner Chariots could be a nice alternative to the shadows. Finally Chromatic Cogs (maybe drop gemenids) gives some Speed for the troop-blocks or even more Magic harassment.

In old days the Dark Elves always had a strong elite-infantry and heavy magic Power. In AoS now with Har Kuron we can see this play-style again. They got so much support from so many things. I really like this city! Damn never saw Darkshards that dangerous!

Your comment made me wonder, how does the exploding 6s prayer work with the snicker-snack of the executioners' severing strike?

[AoS 2 - Cities of Sigmar Discussion]

1 hour ago, Double Misfire said:

It's been a slow morning, so I've updated my previous 'Which City of Sigmar Should I Play?' interactive quiz with Misthåvn and Har Kuron. Check it out, feedback always welcome:

https://www.doublemisfire.com/2020/11/cant-decide-which-city-of-sigmar-to.html

 

 

 

From the last time I took it, My result has changed from Anvilgard to Misthavn, which seems fair Misthavn is the one thats been rattling around my head the most lately

[AoS 2 - Misthåvn (Broken Realms: Morathi) Discussion]

So I'm still hoping they eventually rectify the spell list and maybe a battalion, and I'm intrigued by the Flanking Forces mechanic.  I've seen some talk of flanking options, Coked up Dragon, Dark Riders, Chariots, and the normal Shadow Aelves.  But I'm curious what people are thinking to anchor the non flanking half?  Looks like the High Aelves don't want anything to do with Misthavn so Phoenix Guard don't count, so is the next best option Freeguild Greatswords and a General?  Other thoughts?

Also in most general lists I see Drakespawn Knights and Chariots discouraged.  Does flanking open them up, or are the Horse versions still always the better choice?  

[AoS 2 - Misthåvn (Broken Realms: Morathi) Discussion]

46 minutes ago, Lord of the Isle said:

I wonder if we’ll see some adjustments to fill these gaps. Misthavn spell lore would clearly be extremely good fun done properly...

Is there any sort of precedence on how fast GW might FAQ something like this, if it is indeed just a huge miss?  It really does feel as if we're missing a page for spell lore and a battalion 

[AoS 2 - Har Kuron (Broken Realms: Morathi) Discussion]

8 minutes ago, Boar said:

Zero - standard dark elf stuff, maybe I will buy some later

Aaah okay, how'd it stack up then to regular anvilgard , or your normal city of choice?

[AoS 2 - Har Kuron (Broken Realms: Morathi) Discussion]

4 hours ago, Boar said:

I saw using Stormcast units in Anvilgard as manipulating them in some way. Something like "hey Stormcast we have to kill some bad chaos dudes" those chaos dudes were probably not even that much chaotic but not good certainly. It's nice when you can remove competition with help from someone else.

In other news I won 1500 battle with Har Kuron on Focal Points vs my brother's Glog's Megamob, I got of 4 bladewinds so that might helped me a bit😶

 

What DoK models did you bring in?

[AoS 2 - Misthåvn (Broken Realms: Morathi) Discussion]

Does Misthavn have its own spell list?

[Tempest Eye Discussion]

a lot  of list I see here are dwarf or free guild focused, but if I were to be looking at Tempest's Eye from a largely AelvesAelves/Dark Elves perspective,  what would y'all recommend?

[AoS 2 - Har Kuron (Broken Realms: Morathi) Discussion]

I'm honestly not sure the city rules make up for also losing honored retinue, general's adjutant,  and the empowered endless spells

[Starting List Looking for Direction]

8 minutes ago, swarmofseals said:

@MetaphoricDragon welcome! I think the biggest and most immediate question is what you your goals are. Do you want to be competitive, or are you just trying to come up with a workable configuration given what you have?

Thanks for the Welcome!  I have never been a tournament player, so I do not feel the need to push for absolute top tier competitive, however I don't want to be a doormat either so I do try to at least be effective.  My first goal is to figure out what is most effective out of what I have.  Once I've got that base I'd like to know how to best grow from there, since it seems 2000 pts is the average game, and I don't think I have anything coherent to reach that yet.   

[Starting List Looking for Direction]

So Thanks to YouTube randomly deciding to suggest some HeyWoah videos to me, I learned about the Cities of Sigmar faction and realized I could repurpose my old Dark Elves that have been buried in my closet for many a year.  Painting them would also make for a good quarantine times project.  

After reading up on things, combined with what I have/have painted, this is the starting 1000 point list I've come up with.  I was leaning Tempest's Eye but I'm certainly open to other city suggestions.  I'm looking for advice both on the current list, and to how I should be looking to grow the list out from here.

Allegiance: Cities of Sigmar
 - City: Tempest's Eye
LEADERS
Sorceress (90)
- General
- Command Trait: Hawk-eyed
- Lore of Eagles: Strike of Eagles
Sorceress (90)
- Artefact: Patrician's Helm
- Lore of Eagles: Aura of Glory
- City Role: General's Adjutant
UNITS
20 x Darkshards (200)
- City Role: Honoured Retinue (Must be 5-20 models)
20 x Dreadspears (180)
10 x Black Guard (130)
5 x Dark Riders (110)
1 x Scourgerunner Chariots (80)
ARTILLERY
Celestar Ballista (110) (Repurposed Reaper Bolt Thrower)

 

For what its worth, I currently also have 20-some Corsairs, a Black Ark Fleetmaster, another Chariot, 5 Drakespawn Knights, 10 Executioners, 10 Shades (to count as Shadow Warriors), another Reaper Bolt Thrower, an Assassin, and some models I can use as further sorceresses.  

Thank you,