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  1. 27 minutes ago, Doko said:

    Or perhap it gonna be br allarielle and have belakor as the enemy

    This is my thought. We get Broken Realms Alarielle next, sticking with the elf theme with Belakor the primary antagonist.  Gardus has ties to Alarielle and might be involved here as well.  With this reveal it seems highly plausible Belakor was the creature with the skavin assassins in the last story.  If he is also gunning for Nagash then that drags in Nighthaunt.   Or maybe he wants the skaven after Alarielle?

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  2. 10 minutes ago, Aleser said:

    Apparently there is new Broken Realms fiction, anyone can share with me. Somehow I am not getting them in mails. Thanks

    https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/CmzAjxJFtw8uKzTa.pdf

     

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    The newly-forged and fragile alliance between the Idoneth Deepkin and Daughters of Khaine is put to the test, as a combined raiding party fights together on the Charrwind Coast. 

     

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  3. 24 minutes ago, SilentSentinel said:

    Mildly disappointed that there seemingly isn’t a light melee unit option to go alongside the archers but that being said I’m still pretty hyped for this release!

    Agreed, I was certainly expecting a unit with Glaive's on foot as well.

  4. 10 minutes ago, Lord of the Isle said:

    For me Misthavn is cooler and in some ways more effective than Continuity Anvilgard at least - if only it wasn't for the missing spells!

    Yeah, I'm really, really, holding out for an errata/faq fix.  The theme/feel of this city just really appeals to me in ways the other cities have not sparked in my brain, so I really want to make it work, but would also prefer not to be starting off with some obvious handicaps  

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  5. 6 minutes ago, Kyriakin said:

    Because you made her Shadowlord, I assumed she was the primary slingshot for something (the dragon, I guess) to Shadowstrike off, which means she needs to be in the thick of it near the enemy.

    However, because she is a Darkling Coven, she cannot be deepstruck and would instead have to foot-slog to the required position to be used as a slingshot.

    If you used the dragon as the slingshot, the issue is that he himself remains at 9 inches and unlikely to make the charge (can heroes Shadowstrike themselves?!)

    How about grabbing a Lokhir Fellheart from eBay, and making him an Pirate Assassin?

    Not only does the Assassin unlock Shadow Warriors as Battleline, but he is a Shadowblade and can therefore be Deepstruck directly into the thick of it, and then immediately used as a slingshot for other stuff that is also being deepstruck alongside him (i.e. the dragon, knights, etc.). Because he is cheap, it doesn't matter that he probably won't then make the charge himself.

    I do rather expect for the sorceress to be relatively up in things as my idea was to keep her in range to buff the Black Guard.  Unfortunately there is no other Darkling Coven hero, but maybe WIly Foe would be the better command trait to take.

    I don't see any immediate reason why a hero cannot shadowstrike themselves.  The once per turn clause makes me think If i deepstriked the Dragon and the Knights same turn, the dragon could not shadowstrike both of them though.

    I do in fact have Lokir, figured I'd be using him as a Fleetmaster if I got to that though, I also do have a kitbashed assassin I used back in 5/6e as well, but that is an interesting idea, both to use as a slingshot or to use as a mini missile

  6. 2 hours ago, Kyriakin said:

    Making the Shadowlord a slow and fragile foot Sorceress means that it might be difficult for her to get in a good position for shadowstriking the Dragon/chariots nearby.

    I hope you will forgive a newbie for a potentially dumb question regarding command abilities and semantics.  Shadowstrike says you have to be wholly within 12 of "A" hero.  So the way I was reading it was that it didn't need to specifically be "this" hero, so as long as they were deepstriking near a hero unit it would work.  However, I may have been too optimistic there?

    Making the Dragon the general makes it pretty awkward on battlelines.

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    Also, the chariots are all about the shooting and have a 30-inch threat range for that, so deepstriking and moving them D6 for the charge isn't going to get much done. Maybe say they are Drakespawn Chariots instead? Or maybe you were only planning to Shadowstrike with the dragon, and just using basic Underhanded Tactics for the Scourgerunner Chariots.

    The best use of the Shadowstrike that I can see is ten Drakespawn Knights coming in with the DLoBD, and making the 8-D6 charge (with muscican, obviously). if you plan to do it many times (i.e. multiple waves of Knights) make him a Shadowlord, and if you plan to do it just once take the extra Command Point instead for his buffing Command Ability on that Drakespawn Knight charge. Then he can have the 6+ shrug instead.

    For combat, you are probably right on the drakespawn.  However, yeah, nothing says that shadowstrike charges are the only use of Underhanded Tactics, and the Scourgerunners could also be used for flanking objectives.  Also only 2 of the 3 chariots I have are build to be able to convert to Colds Ones, so some of that was a practical over gameplay decision.  

    Going up to 1250 will probably be +10 Shadow Warriors +5 Knights

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    Shadowstrikng 40 Crossbow Corsairs or 40 Cutlass Corsairs (with Fleetmaster) could have been fun, but oh well...

    There might still be something to shadow striking even 10 cutlass corsairs with fleetmaster. That is still 40 attacks popping out of nowhere.  Though heavy on command point usage and needs to be balanced with 2 other unit on starting board (which is what has hampered me from trying to include that in a low points list)

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    PS: Warhammer Weekly said that Misthavn didn't get basic CoS traits. Do we have a definitive answer on this? I don't have the book yet.

    (He says it around 2:24:55)

    I mean, its not listed under Misthavn battle traits like how Har Kuron explicitly calls out they cannot use Way of the Free Peoples.  Nothing I see on the Misthavn page implies that there would be any reason they could not use the normal abilities.

  7. 17 minutes ago, El Antiguo Guardián said:

    She seems to have a helmet and vampiric armour... maybe she´s a female blood dragon?

    EDIT: Well, it can be a male vampire too.

    Yeah that silhouette is really throwing me off, keeps reminding me of like a Twi'lek from Star Wars or the Zora from Breath of the Wild

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  8. For discussions sake, this is what I'm eyeing for a 1000 point list.  Seems 1000-1250 is the common points value played at LGS, not sure where to take it up to 1250 so open to ideas there.  My first thought is always Add Shadow Warriors but  what to do with what remains is awkward.  It focuses on dark elves because that is what I happen to have without racking up a lot extra in freeguild or dwarf purchases.

    Allegiance: Cities of Sigmar
    - Mortal Realm: Ulgu
    - City: Misthavn

    LEADERS
    Dreadlord on Black Dragon (300)
    - Lance of Spite & Tyrant Shield
    - Artefact: Shadowsilk Armour
    - Misthavn Narcotic: Sawfang Dust (not dead set on this one)
    Sorceress (90)
    - General
    - Command Trait: Shadowlord

    UNITS
    3 x Scourgerunner Chariots (210)
    20 x Black Guard (260) - City Role: Honoured Retinue
    10 x Bleakswords (90)

    ENDLESS SPELLS / TERRAIN / COMMAND POINTS
    Extra Command Point (50)

    TOTAL: 1000/1000 WOUNDS: 67

  9. 35 minutes ago, Kyriakin said:

    To be honest, I am more annoyed about losing the generic Cities abilities. I mean, why? Was this city going to be destroying everyone if retinues, adjutants and maxed-out Endless Spells were retained?

    The unique abilities are so restricted that I think this would still be almost the worst city if generic CoS abilities and there was a Anvilgard-type spell lore.

    As far as I know, Misthavn did not lose the generic cities abilities?  Only Har Kuron did that....

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  10. 9 minutes ago, Popisdead said:

    Did you list them earlier?  

    A sorceress can be a good adjutant with a unit to stab and heal (with lifeswarm).   Will generate some CP, bonuses on spell casting.  Dragons are good in LC cause they can shoot and use the command ability to fly up again.  Also their command trait helps them, if you ran two they would be better than twice as good.  Scourge runner chariots are still good, but not great.

    What do you have for models?

    • 20 darkshards
    • 40  dreadspears
    • 10 black guard
    • 10 executioners
    • 20 corsairs 
    • 10 shades/ Shadow Warriors
    • 10 dark riders
    • 6 cold one knights
    • 3 reaper bolt throwers
    • 1 black ark fleetmaster
    • 3 scourgerunner chariots (2 can be swapped to cold ones chariots)
    • 2 sorceress
    • 1 Assassin
    • The Drusa Kraeth Box is on order so Dragon and 20 warriors (probably 10 darkshards, 10 bleakswords)

    I'm not opposed to buying more, but looking for a solid starting point using what I have first, then a road map to go from there.  Not entirely sure Living City is my best option, but since my Misthavn questions pointed me this way, I figured I'd explore the idea.  Thanks!

  11. So with the advent of Misthavn, flanking dragons have been on my mind.  But while I've tried to figure out that, I've had people direct me to Living Cities instead.  One of the first issues I have with that though is that I currently only own Dark Elves models. Is it still possible to get something functional out of that/or with minimal extra purchases?  What might a starting 1000 point list look/play like?  Thanks!

  12. 23 minutes ago, Crashnarf said:

    Not it's not ridiculous. A dragon can be very useful and resilient at 1000pts. He can be your hammer or your anvil, he is fast and self sufficient.

    Howewer, it will cost you many points, so he has to be use carefully, a dragon is not so resistant and you will have less figs on the board.

    I personnaly love to use the sorceress on black dragon, even if she is very fragile: she has good spells, good apps and she can hit hard. In Anvilgard or Hammerhal, it is perfect.

    The only point is that, fort the cost of one dragon, I can have a celestant prime...and that is (for me) a must, especially in Hammerhal.

    Unfortunately,  Misthavn won't let me flank with a Celestant Prime.  I'd like to think using the dragon as a flanking option helps protect its fragility some.  But I'm having trouble figuring out my best Anvil options if I were to use the dragon and Ideally another flanking unit as the Hammers.

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