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    Stormcast Eternals 3.0 - There is no "a" in Vindictors

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    3 hours ago, Lengthster said:

    I feel like people really underrate praetors. Yeah you can give a hero a mirrorshield to protect them from shooting. But praetors also protect from spells, random MW abilities and even melee. Each one basically has the same attack profile as a hero, some other minor things they provide are look out sir (3 models) and extra bodies for objectives. Additionally their footprint can stop the hero from getting surrounded.

    They aren't incredible but they do provide some damn good protection. Great for Gardus, or with another hero it means you can put a different artifact on them like an arcane tome or something. If you have an amulet on a Stardrake or similar, the extra enhancement you get from a battalion could go towards something else.

    And also, the minis look absolutely amazing, I love them

    The Rumour Thread

    in Age of Sigmar Discussions

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    5 minutes ago, Marcvs said:

    Didn't the skaven already assassinate (or tried to, can't remember) Nagash in the Old World / End times?

    The Skaven screwed Nagash when Nagash first resurrected the Tomb Kings (millenia before Sigmar), screwed Nagash in the End Times (along with everybody else), and again in AoS. Skaven and Nagash do have beef with each other.

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    Do you feel cheated?

    in Age of Sigmar Discussions

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    13 minutes ago, LuminethMage said:

    Ok, got you, sorry for being a bit of pain, but I really had trouble understanding some of the complaints (like “this is cheating”) . I do understand of course that not everyone likes this way of doing things. All good. 👍

     

    You were never a pain! You spoke your mind and so did I, and it was great. Let's just hope every faction gets some of that aelven love :)

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    Do you feel cheated?

    in Age of Sigmar Discussions

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    46 minutes ago, LuminethMage said:

    Yes, they knew. I agree with that, at least that there was a second wave coming relatively soon, exact timing could have been influenced by Covid. 

    Why wasn’t it a finished product? You can play just fine with the current Lumineth. The Battletome had a lore section, art and everything else that another Battletome has. Some parts were competitively good (all for faction useable, all units being good), some not so like the artifacts. But that’s exactly the same for any other Battletome. 

    Of course they want you to buy more. That’s not connected to how the release is done. 9 month later isn’t really “directly after”as you say yourself, and you can always decline to buy more. If you like the models, you’ll buy them anyway. The only difference is, if you are really into the Lumineth, they’ll be easier to afford if you have a bit of time in between releases. And if you collect all kind of armies the whole point is moot anyway. And there are other things that will make you buy more, like shifting metas, wanting to paint more etc. I think it’s too simplistic to say, oh if they just would release everything together than it’s better in that respect - how come all the stories about piles of grey? 

    Which rules in the Lumineth Battletome aren’t valid anymore? 

    Hm... I don't know. Maybe I'm just salty, but it seems to me that it 9 months later (or a year) is pretty fast in this hobby. Of course you knew more LML were to come, or at least that's what everyone hopes for in this hobby, but it would have been nice of them to include these warscrolls in the battletome. Note that I used "nice", as they indeed want to earn money, but I understand why some people might feel tricked in this case. They bought an army to play a game, and now they see that had they just waited a bit, maybe they would have been able to invest that money in some other units.

    About the validity of the rules, it's true we don't know whether they will be valid or not. But these new rules could have been included in the previous battletome. I think that's what they did in 40K with the Space Marines and Necrons, right? I think it's the right thing to do, and we should aspire to that as well.

    As I said, maybe I'm just salty about it all, and this really is nothing to worry about.

    Do you feel cheated?

    in Age of Sigmar Discussions

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    1 hour ago, LuminethMage said:

    Wouldn’t you have bought it anyway?

    Personally no, I wouldn't, but that's beyond the point. The actual complaint is about how they unambiguosly knew that LML wave 2 was less than 1 year later, and still released the battletome of wave 1 as if it was a finished product, when it isn't. Some people say that it was clear LML was a partial release, and that might be true for the people that pay close attention to these things, to some other people it might not.

    In my opinion, the timing of the release indicates they wanted people to buy 2000 points of LML wave 1, and then release wave 2 so that people buy more. It's the exact same as when a videogame company releases a DLC right after the game releases. People will always get angry if the DLC turns out to be an essential part of the product they just bought. Note the timings in the analogy don't quite match, as DLCs are produced in a much faster manner.

    For me, personally, this reminds me of when I bought the first Seraphon battletome, somewhere in 2018, and the rules in the battletome were, quite simply, not valid anymore. Turned out I had to buy GHB2018 and the rule book in order to be able to play the game I just bought.

    Do you feel cheated?

    in Age of Sigmar Discussions

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    8 minutes ago, Beastmaster said:

    I don’t defend anyone, I just try to understand the attack. Corona rattled the whole gaming and tournament scene, and conceivably changed the focus of many hobbyists during the last months. There‘s also a lot of possible logistic, production and distribution problems that could play in. GW, as any company, has to take all that into account and constantly readjust its course to continue prospering (can’t blame them for that I think. They, as we, didn’t invent capitalism).

    I see. I do agree that we don't know whether there has been a change in pace (or in order) of releases, but I'll say that GW, with respect to LML, doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt. Everything points to them being greedy in an already expensive hobby. Moreover, even though the focus of many hobbyists may have changed the last 10 months or so, that doesn't mean their complaints aren't valid. They may be more vocal about them, of course, but the complaints are still, in my opinion, valid.

    Anyhow, I'm glad some of you find this to not be cheatin, as this takes us to interesting conversations

    Do you feel cheated?

    in Age of Sigmar Discussions

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    21 minutes ago, Beastmaster said:

    Seriously, I‘m quite sure it wasn’t planned that way. But, Corona.

    I never understood why people use the coronavirus to defend GW.

    Granted, they couldn't know what would happen in 2020, but we have had, what, 5 releases since LML wave 1 and 2? By my count we've had Sons of Behemat, Warcry Catacombs (if that counts), Slaanesh, BR: Morathi, anything else? The way I see it, coronavirus actually made GW appear less ******, as it spaced their 2 waves of LML more. Without the virus we could have ended up with LML wave 1 in April and LML wave 2 in November/January.

    Moreover, given the prices of the LML, the fact that now we'll need 2 books to play the army, and the fact they did know of wave 2 when they released wave 1, and could have added the warscrolls in the battletome, I think it's pretty clear this is a greedy move on GW's part.

    I, for one, will vote with my wallet.

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