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Do You See That, Fellow Chaos <Followers> ?
Captain of Wales is running it in the upcoming Worlds
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12 hours ago, Ravinsild said:
Is Belakor a good beat stick centerpiece?
How useful would you say a chaos Warshrine is? Would you consider it mandatory for every list or could you go without?
Are Fomoroid Crushers worth their points as a ranged threat and for MW?
Trying to build a Chaos list with a huge beat stick combat monster center piece themed around the chaos warrior variants. Chaos Warriors, Chaos Knights, Chaos Chosen, Chaos Lords of all variety. I was thinking something like this:
Army Faction: Slaves to Darkness
- Army Type: Ravagers
- Grand Strategy: Dominating PresenceLEADER
Be'lakor (360)*
- Spells: Ruinous VigourChaos Lord on Karkadrak (225)*
- General
- Command Traits: Eternal Vendetta
- Artefacts: Cloak of the Relentless Conqueror
- Mark of Chaos: KhorneChaos Sorcerer Lord (135)*
- Command Traits: Master of Magic
- Spells: Whispers of Chaos
- Mark of Chaos: TzeentchBATTLELINE
1 x Chaos Warriors (400)*
- Chaos Hand Weapon and Chaos Runeshield
- Mark of Chaos: TzeentchChaos Knights (170)*
- Cursed Lance and Chaos Runeshield
- Mark of Chaos: KhorneChaos Knights (170)*
- Cursed Lance and Chaos Runeshield
- Mark of Chaos: KhorneENDLESS SPELL
Eightfold Doom-sigil (50)
OTHER
1 x Chosen (290)
- Mark of Chaos: KhorneFomoroid Crusher (100)*
Fomoroid Crusher (100)*
CORE BATTALIONS:
*Battle Regiment
TOTAL POINTS: (2000/2000)
Created with Warhammer Age of Sigmar: The App
However if I dropped the Crushers I have no idea what to put in their place. Do you think this list could do anything at say, for instance, Nashcon? It’s the largest tournament in the southeast of the US is what they say.
Anything that starts with "Chaos...someting" => drop it (save it for our next v3 BT next Winter)
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10 hours ago, Ravinsild said:
So Bel’akor would be good against say Morathi, or a Megaboss on Maw-Krusha or that big destruction god guy, Krondos or whatever?
I just bought two because they had ranged attacks and looked pretty good for 100 points. However if they’re not good I’m not sure what I would do. I guess bring 10 more chaos warriors? 200 points is an awkward spot haha.
Be'lakor dies, always, they always focus him, even if he's weak as hell. He's a level 2 sorcerer with The Dark Master Ability and that's it.
14 hp, 4+ etheral save, he can tank one weak attack maybe, as long as there aren't some mortal wounds around.
Be'lakor vs Morathi => Be'lakor nuggets
Be'lakor vs Maw-Krusha => Be'lakor wings
Be'lakor vs Kragnos => Be'lakor kebab
If you want him to live more the 1 round => Despoiler him behind a pitch-black terrain or go play his Legion of The First Prince.
What Be'lakor is good for :
Preventing the enemy from succeeding tactics, locusing some death stars, getting all the aggro, finishing some half dead battlelines, throwing some spells or endless spells, snitching objectives.
If you plan on 1v1ing some big guys (or snake-females), Archaon will be more than pleased to take his stand
You got it bro
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11 hours ago, CeleFAZE said:
What else can we do?
You are a customer => you complain => you get better service (or not)
You are a customer => you cope => they're more than happy to keep on selling you the same meal you dislike (Slaangors ?)
But yeah, you're right, last 100 tournaments we had like 2 scoring lists with 1/4 Beasts of Chaos shooting units (praise the BoC)
There is room for improvement indeed, remember how we went back in 2019-2020 (before the 2nd BT) ? The locusing, the rampaging, the summoning, the customizing, the Fun !
Were we owing the meta like the Sons of Behemat, Seraphons, Lumineths, Idoneths, Stormdrakes, Maw Krushas ? I guess not, we were just A-ranking just like the others. Are we seeing any HoS in the Worlds since 2020 ?
And for those who are coping with the "our summoning was too stronk", just try to play against a 2000+500 pts Flesh-Eater Courts or multi pinks Legion of the First Prince, or any Nurgle, or Soulblight zombies, or Stellar Seraphon, etc. There are armies with summoning and they aren't getting the same treatement as we do since the last 5 nerfs.
Is GW keeping on ranking us, Hedonites of Slaanesh, The Meme-Tier BT ?
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46 minutes ago, ChaosUndivided said:
@Khendall why not battle regiment? You could make your 7 drop into 4, heck you could squeeze it all into 1 drop if you wanted.
If you're running despoilers i would suggest you make Belakor the general for the 5+ ward save, or even Archaon.
The list seems really light on bodies for the objective game, i dont have experience with Splinter Fang but i imagine those guys are gonna evaporate under pressure.
Could go for 2 drops (Archaon + the rest of the army, cause 2 commanders) indeed, don't know if it was the biggest game changer
Be'lakor is indeed a Daemon Prince for the 5+ ward, but not Archaon.
But since the MVP here is the "Aoe /2 run & charge MASTER", better give it to him. Because you don't want him to get ez wiped thanks to a random spell or aoe, since he's constantly hiding in the pitch-black shadows.Running two monsters is a welcoming chance to do some Ferocious Advance with 3 monsters thanks to Metamorphosed DP.
Spinter Fangs went good with their MW on 6 + reroll 1s (praise Khorne), since doing damage is our biggest weakness in STDs.
Varanguards are always nice with Archaon, doing MW on 6 too, tanky with their 3+ => 2+ save reroll 1s (Tzeentch).
Be'lakor is The Show Stopper, as always, you can easily cancel a Ferocious Advance or other tactics with his Dark Mastering, and he's aggroing so much attention from your opponents, giving Archaon some welcoming space.
Archaon is still The Man, if only I were more lucky with the Slayer of Kings (not a single proc), could have done much better.
Still, I did 2-1 with this list, got a Sylvaneth and a Lumineth ! (praise the STD DP aoe + pitch-black), I've just lost against a damn FEC with his 500 summoning bats on Power in Numbers map (worst of all).
The only thing that did nothing was, you name it, the Horrorghast, too bad I couldn't run a Mindstealer Sphiranx for the -2 bravery combo (damn that Archaon point increase), I will trade it for an Emerald Lifeswarm for even more healing next time.
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4 hours ago, Enoby said:
I definitely agree here - I think if we had a large reduction, we would be a much stronger army. Like you've said, a 5+ army wide save is really good; if we can get this to happen early and regularly (by having more units) then we should be at least tanky enough to last longer into the game.
It's quite nice too because if you've got a large amount of your army left, keeping the 5+ ward save is a good idea if there's no plan for a summon. If your army is struggling, you can get 30 daemonettes and still have enough DP to rally better next time.
I think the rally will be important for ensuring we don't crumble too early on; units of 10 twinsouls will benefit quite nicely from this early on should they be shot.
Yeah, just a few points drops away
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13 hours ago, Enoby said:
After sleeping on it, I'm more happy with the update, and will be happy if/when we get a big points decrease in the GHB.
Yeah, Blissbarb Archers going 170 to 165 and KoS 420 to 415
Mark my words
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22 hours ago, CeleFAZE said:
"so it's not unreasonable to get to 18 within a turn or two "
Guyz, we have a Tzeentch intruder here
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What do you think of this list guys ?
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Chaos Dwarves !
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On 2/22/2022 at 1:06 PM, JackStreicher said:
Archaon + Deamon Prince of Khorne.
The latter is simply toxic to the game, his CA is way too good with no counter play. It utterly demolishes armies with bad shooting.
The other lists are Knights of the Empty Throne + Be'lakor. 2x6 or 1x6 Varanguard (Tzeentch so also rerolling 1s to save with a 2+ save, ignoring X rend) with all the access to save stacking are a nightmare to beat. One unit of 6 demolished 80 Grave Guards within 3 Combat phases.
So orverall I really dislike how our book plays. It has become the epitome of cheese:
Save stacking on big Elite Units (Varanguard) or Heroes (Archaoen), combined with outdated fight twice rules (Chaos Lord + Archaon is simply wtf), then punch your enemy to a bloody pulp by denying their charges and runs with the Khorne Deamon Prince (which actively stops combat, HE IS KHORNE and does WHAT?), while ping-ponging through the enemy's army with a perpetually fighting twice archaon. The amount of stats stacking is nothing but stupid at this point.
While the rest of the army is actually rather bad.
The whole army also crumbles to good shooting. (which not every faction has)
Do not take the win rate of a faction as measurement of wether that faction is good in general or not. It's usually 1-2 Lists that are good enough to achieve a 50%+ win rate
Example Stormcast: Overall rather meh, however they have 4 Warscrolls that carry that entire book out of 70+ Warscrolls.Indeed but still
Archaon, Daemon Prince, Chaos alors
and then What ?
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On 2/23/2022 at 8:44 PM, Lord Krungharr said:
Wait, Bonesplitterz are only 27%, less than Beasts of Chaos AND Khorne? Did I get ripped off?!
Now they are good with KRAIGNOS
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15 hours ago, Agent of Chaos said:
Almost certainly involves Archaon.
And Be’lakor with Splintered Fangs Battlelines
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6 hours ago, Boar said:
It is from just 27 matches tough.
Still, how ?
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Go 15 Twinsouls x3 against those Nighthaunts lol, new meta
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Lol this update sucks
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On 8/29/2021 at 5:18 AM, Carnith said:
List I'm going to try out tomorrow.
Allegiance: Slaanesh
- Host: Invaders Host
- Grand Strategy: None Chosen
- Triumphs:
Be'Lakor, the Dark Master (360)
Bladebringer, Herald on Exalted Chariot (265)
- General
- Command Trait: Skin-taker
- Artefact: Amulet of Destiny (Universal Artefact)
- Universal Spell Lore: Flaming Weapon
Synessa, The Voice of Slaanesh (260)
- Host Option: General
Shardspeaker of Slaanesh (150)
- Artefact: The Rod of Misrule
- Host Option: General
- Lore of Pain and Pleasure: Battle Rapture
11 x Blissbarb Archers (180)
11 x Blissbarb Archers (180)
5 x Hellstriders with Claw-spears (135)
5 x Slickblade Seekers (230)
5 x Slickblade Seekers (230)
*Command Entourage - Magnificent
**Battle Regiment
Total: 1990 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 0 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 110
Drops: 9
It's missing something, but I don't know what
or who...
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Fellow Hedonites, just play spells and stop getting stomped by 2+ save Sigmarcasts, don't get fooled by weak overpriced mortals (except Sigvald of course) who won't get a miraculous FAQ and forget about lolgors => then, you will win.
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Allegiance: Slaanesh
- Host: Lurid Haze Invaders Host (Host of Chaos)
- Mortal Realm: Ghur
- Grand Strategy: Prized Sorcery
- Triumphs: Inspired
Leaders
Dexcessa, The Talon of Slaanesh (280)*
- Host Option: General
Sigvald, Prince of Slaanesh (265)**
Synessa, The Voice of Slaanesh (260)*
- Host Option: General
Infernal Enrapturess, Herald of Slaanesh (140)*
- Artefact: Arcane Tome (Universal Artefact)
- Universal Spell Lore: Flaming Weapon
The Contorted Epitome (255)*
- General
- Command Trait: Feverish Anticipation
- Artefact: Oil of Exultation
- Lore of Slaanesh: Hysterical Frenzy
Battleline
10 x Daemonettes (140)**
11 x Blissbarb Archers (180)**
11 x Blissbarb Archers (180)**
Endless Spells & Invocations
Dreadful Visage (90)
Mesmerising Mirror (80)
Wheels of Excruciation (100)
Core Battalions
*Command Entourage - Magnificent
**Vanguard
Additional Enhancements
Artefact
Total: 1970 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 0 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 69
Drops: 8
69 wounds, what else ?
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16 hours ago, ibel said:
So,
I don't like Sigvald in another Host than Luzerad Haste (invaders), Jes Glutos is nize but u have very soft other Target and if a realy nize competative list fokus Glutos in turn 2 he falls (it is hard but he died believe me)
but hej the Twins are good jes, the rest is absolut okay. Play it 3-4 times and tell us your experience. Good Luck.
My next List (no more fun to Play Archaon+Keeper List) is:
Allegiance: Slaanesh
- Host: Lurid Haze Invaders Host (Host of Chaos)
- Mortal Realm: Ghur
- Grand Strategy: Vendetta
- Triumphs: Inspired
Leaders
Sigvald, Prince of Slaanesh (265)*
- Host Option: General
Synessa, The Voice of Slaanesh (260)*
Dexcessa, The Talon of Slaanesh (280)
- Host Option: General
Infernal Enrapturess, Herald of Slaanesh (140)*
- General
- Command Trait: Feverish Anticipation
- Artefact: Oil of Hazards
Battleline
33 x Blissbarb Archers (540)*
- Reinforced x 2
5 x Hellstriders with Claw-spears (135)*
5 x Hellstriders with Hellscourges (135)*
Units
5 x Blissbarb Seekers (220)* or Maybe Sickblades be better ?!?!
Core Battalions
*Battle Regiment
Total: 1975 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 2 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 103
Drops: 2
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20 hours ago, DTzeentch said:
Two lists for comment:
Allegiance: Slaanesh
- Host: Pretenders Host
- Grand Strategy: Prized Sorcery - Triumphs: Inspired
LEADERS
Glutos Orscollion, Lord of Gluttony (475)**
- Lore of Pain and Pleasure: Battle Rapture
Lord of Pain (155)*
- General
- Command Trait: Heroic Stature
- Artefact: Sceptre of Domination
- Host Option: Hunter of Godbeasts
Sigvald, Prince of Slaanesh (265)**
Infernal Enrapturess, Herald of Slaanesh (140)
- Artefact: Arcane
- Lore of Slaanesh: Soulslice Shards
UNITS
11 x Blissbarb Archers (180)*
5 x Blissbarb Seekers (220)*
5 x Myrmidesh Painbringers (160)**10 x Symbaresh Twinsouls (370)*
CORE BATTALIONS
*Battle Regiment
**Command Entourage - Magnificent ADDITIONAL ENHANCEMENTS Artefact
LEADERS: 4/6
ARTEFACTS: 2
REINFORCED UNITS: 1/4
TOTAL: 1965/2000
WOUNDS: 95
BATTLELINES: 3 (3+
List 2, basically swap out Sigvald for the bladebringer exalted chariot and give the LoP Hunter of Godbeast for more power against monsters.
Comments
Glutos of coarse is key for his-1 to hit umbrella but also for his double unbundling at.+1, and generally being an unkillable monster. In my 1 test battle with Seraphim, he ate a caurnasaur and a sregadon while shutting down the Slaan’s spell use and making it hard for his units to hit me.
For summoning point generation
BB archers split fire-2BB seekerssplit fire-2
Infernal Enrapturess,-1
Soulslice Shards from Infernal Enrapturess(list 1) or bladebringer (list 2)-1
Arcane bolt -1
total 7 plus combat for a potential KoS in turn 3 at the latest.
Rest of the last pretty standard LoP is support behind Glutos and BB/Sigvald,Twinsouls are just greaT, a real stopper unit that can dish out damage
painbringers grab and hold objectives plug holes
BB seekers flank and pick off week units generate summoning points
Infernal Enrapturess helps Glutos shut down enemy magic, generates depavity points.
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AoS 2 - Slaves to Darkness 2 Discussion
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Fellow STDs, which one do you like the most =>
Tank The Everchosen
Allegiance: Slaves to Darkness
- Damned Legion: Despoilers
- Grand Strategy: Dominating Presenece
- Triumphs: Inspired
Leaders
Archaon the Everchosen (860)
- Aura of Chaos: Tzeentch
- Spell: Binding Damnation
Slaves to Darkness Daemon Prince (210)
- General
- Axe
- Command Trait: Lightning Reflexes
- Artefact: Armour of Tortured Souls
- Mark of Chaos: Khorne
Battleline
Units
8 x Iron Golems (75)*
- Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch
8 x Iron Golems (75)*
- Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch
8 x Iron Golems (75)*
- Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch
3 x Varanguard (280)**
- Ensorcelled Weapon and Warpsteel Shield
- Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch
3 x Varanguard (280)**
- Ensorcelled Weapon and Warpsteel Shield
- Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch
1 x Slaves to Darkness Chaos Spawn (55)**
- Mark of Chaos: Khorne
Endless Spells & Invocations
Purple Sun of Shyish (70)
Core Battalions
*Expert Conquerors
**Bounty Hunters
Total: 1980 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 0 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 87
Drops: 8
Or
Fear The Everchosen
Allegiance: Slaves to Darkness
- Damned Legion: Despoilers
- Grand Strategy: Dominating Presenece
- Triumphs: Inspired
Leaders
Archaon the Everchosen (860)
- Aura of Chaos: Khorne
- Spell: Whispers of Chaos
Slaves to Darkness Daemon Prince (210)
- General
- Axe
- Command Trait: Lord of Terror
- Artefact: Armour of Tortured Souls
- Mark of Chaos: Khorne
Battleline
9 x The Unmade (75)*
- Mark of Chaos: Khorne
9 x The Unmade (75)*
- Mark of Chaos: Khorne
9 x The Unmade (75)*
- Mark of Chaos: Khorne
Units
3 x Varanguard (280)**
- Ensorcelled Weapon and Warpsteel Shield
- Mark of Chaos: Khorne
3 x Varanguard (280)**
- Ensorcelled Weapon and Warpsteel Shield
- Mark of Chaos: Khorne
1 x Mindstealer Sphiranx (95)**
Endless Spells & Invocations
Horrorghast (40)
Core Battalions
*Expert Conquerors
**Bounty Hunters
Total: 1990 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 0 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 95
Drops: 8