[The Rumour Thread]

I really like this box which is dangerous. The new Fyreslayer is fantastic, might be my favourite model in the entire range and I think the Deepkin one just needs a different paint job. The extra models are really good as well and combo well with the Start Collecting boxes without too much duplication.

I'm dangerously tempted to pull the trigger on this one and grab the two start collecting boxes before they get replaced

[The Rumour Thread]

10 minutes ago, sandlemad said:

That's kind of just an after-the-fact paintjob, isn't it? It's better in the sense that it's more widely usable than e.g. a christmas-themed version of the Red Gobbo but feels they just picked an alt-sculpt off the shelf and told the 'eavy metal crew to jolly it up.

That's kind of in pattern with last year's boxing day figure, Gorzag, nothing especially festive about it, just a very cool model for people to pick up and paint.

[The Rumour Thread]

18 minutes ago, Higolx said:

Pretty sure thats a jetbike exhaust.

Looks like it to me too. The current bikes are fine but the Autarch and Shining Spears are in dire need of updating. Hopefully it’s not the Vyper, that kit is old but is still one of the best looking vehicles in 40k

[The Rumour Thread]

7 minutes ago, novakai said:

They have done that a lot recently with Slaanesh, GSC, and sister of battle, where they break up a model release and an army get a second half of their release not that long after their first wave. With how GW does mini design process is that they where all made at around the same time. I assume that LRL they got really behind at releasing both sides so it ended up being only 8 months between the two.

A big point as well is that not only are GW probably holding back some designs until they see what sells (we know they went ham on designing every possible Primaris variant they could come up with before they were released then decided to pace themselves) but the game is miniature designer led. And the designers who worked a lot on the more recent ranges are often still in the studio. This is why Eldar will probably be slow to fully update as the designs are all meshed in 30+ years of design work they have to pay attention to, or why Fyreslayers will get minimal updates because again, it's focusing on a niche aspect of old designs. Stuff like GSC, Ad Mech, Lumineth, OSB and Stormcast are pretty new in terms of miniatures and so there's going to be a lot more people working there wanting to explore them as it's exciting new ground.

[The Rumour Thread]

I think a big issue here is that whilst we had the big 40k rumour leak it started almost immediately. So it's easy to see how accurate it is because the only thing it got wrong was mistaking a fantastic conversion for an upcoming model. So with an AoS one of similar scope to be believable I'd want to see a timeline not just a mass of random ideas. But in the interest of tracking it we have from it:

Kharadon Overlords: Own battletome, female alt characters, new named character/leader

Fyreslayers: Own battletome

Cities of Sigmar: big updated including new kits for Dispossessed, renamed as the Reforged

Chaos Dwarves are on the way (but no name listed for the faction)

Silent People: Death faction

OBR: Mortek Archers, elite cavalry and Bone Dragon

Gloomspite Gitz: Spiderfang update

Seraphon: update in 2023

Codex Daemons: four combat patrols

I'm not sure about the bit about IJ, Kruleboyz, Thunderstrike and Maggotkin boxes. It sounds to me like those would be vanguard boxes but the fact they say Death will get nothing and like it for now when we're reasonably certain Nighthaunt are in the pipeline seems odd. If they mean the battleforces we know that's completely wrong.

 

[The Rumour Thread]

7 hours ago, novakai said:

Well yes combat patrol style boxes are going to be the future in terms of army starter boxes for both system eventually.

To add to this the first 40k combat patrons came out alongside codex supplements Space Wolves and Deathwatch not the main release. So if the change is happening we should probably assume it will happen on a book by book basis as new battletomes are released (with SCE and Orruks getting there’s next year like Space Marines and Necrons did this year). So we’d expect Maggotkin to be first up to get replaced and so it makes sense they’d try to sell through their remaining stock

[AoS 2 - Ironjawz Discussion]

So a bit of a silly question but I'm building a casual Ironjawz force to play against my niece. I should have 30 ard boyz with what I'm picking up over the next couple of months (along with some Brutes, Goregruntas and characters). I'm just wondering as I prepare to start building the first batch of ard boyz, if I should be building them in units of 10, 15 or one unit of 30? How do they tend to play best?

[The Rumour Thread]

18 hours ago, KingBrodd said:

I love the Knight models and would love to see my Sons expanded but I think it's still too soon, granted itll be 2 years in April since the Sons were supposed to be released, having been delayed into October.

The Mancrusher could definitely use an update and a 2nd Mega kit covering a Shaman or the Matriarch of a Stomp would be perfect. Also of course that makes room for King Brodd!!

I could also see Half-Gargants making an appearance. Seeing as how an Ogor is halfway to a Gargant in size anyway and that some Ogor Tyrants wrestle Mancrushers for fun, perhaps we could see an Ogor Gargant mix!?

I would love a Shaman/Matriarch kit for the line. And new Mancrusher kit that can be built as male or female gargants.

[The Rumour Thread]

5 hours ago, KingBrodd said:

Exactly. The only Faction I could see not getting anything but a Battletome is the Sons of Behemat. Unless they update the Mancrusher I could see it being a Tome release only. Fingers crossed for that update!!

I mean the rumour list for 40k that's so far been accurate had Chaos Knights getting a new codex next year complete with a new model so I could see them releasing a new gargant kit of some sort, either bigger than the current Mega Gargants or inbetween the two kits the line currently has

[The Rumour Thread]

14 minutes ago, Neverchosen said:

Okay, so far Necrons, Space Marines, Sisters of Battle, Dark Eldar and Orks all got expansions correct? I think we have yet to get releases for Tau, Admech, Eldar, Thousand Sons, or Chaos Space Marines for 9th edition?

Either way I feel like getting a release in a mega crossover like Broken Realms or Psychic Awakening does not preclude an army from getting an update... if anything it seems to indicate a renewed focus on the army. Of course there is a bit of apples and oranges in terms of sales for 40k and AOS so maybe Broken Realms and Psychic Awakening had different marketing purposes. 

There's not really a pattern between Psychic Awakening and 9th ed releases. But there is a pattern in that every full Codex in 9th ed has had at least 1 new figure for it. Drukhari got a new Lelith, Ad Mech got the new Marshal, Grey Knights get Castellan Crowe, Thousand Sons go the new sorcerer, Death Guard the Lord of Virulence, Custodes the Blade Champion and Genestealers the Saboteur. Everyone else (Space Marines, Necrons, Orks and Sororitas) got multiple releases.

 

With Maggotkin getting a new sorcerer I would imagine we'll see the same for AoS, some lines getting a few new units and characters, the others get one new character. And honestly whilst not ideal it's something at least

[The Rumour Thread]

36 minutes ago, xking said:

They should have planned earlier than, They had over a year. 

Games Workshop's studio works around 1.5-3 years in advance depending on the project. They also only have so many staff and so much production capacity (both things they are trying to increase). Before 9th ed 40K most armies would just get their army book releases and that was it. With 9th ed 40k and 3rd ed AoS GW seem to be moving to a process of releasing something alongside every codex. For 40K it was only the Marine supplements that didn't all get something new (and arguably they got plenty between them in general releases). Every other codex got at least 1 hero. If the same will be true for AoS I'm all for it, especially if it lets them phase out older resin figures like this did. It's better than nothing and hopefully means plenty of larger releases for factions like Skaven, Mawtribes or Beasts of Chaos are in the works

[The Rumour Thread]

25 minutes ago, Raviv said:

The problem with the warband rumor is that it implies 5 warbands, while the timeline published today only shows 4 after the starter set 

I think for now the safe assumption should be Harrowdeep is followed by the 2 separate warbands listed on the timeline, then the next box is followed by 2 more, meaning 1 is missing from the rumour. After the roadmap itself the article says:

"This is all in addition to two further warband releases per season, each with a ready-made Rivals deck, as well as more universal and grand alliance cards to open up even more deck-building opportunities in Championship format."

Which to me implies that those two are in addition to the 6 listed on the roadmap

[The Rumour Thread]

 

7 hours ago, HollowHills said:

I mean... I think we all want Idoneth veil lady and beef cake stormcast lady to kiss right?

 

I would love it then hope they spin a Warhammer Romance imprint out of Black Library.

1 hour ago, Sigmarusvult said:

If you subscribe for a year, you'll get one for "free" but they are not exclusive to W+, GW already said that they'll be available for sale.

Citation needed on this as all of the things GW said about it seemed to imply that you get one free for subscribing and then subscribers would have the option to buy the other one too.

[The Rumour Thread]

Or if they wanted to do so they could just release a Beast Herds book that allows you to build for either Chaos or Destruction with a couple of alternate options (no deity specific Beastmen in Destruction, no Kragnos in Chaos for example)

[The Rumour Thread]

It's worth noting very few models were exclusive to Soul Wars (unlike Dark Imperium). Chainrasps, Glaivewraiths, Grimghasts, Lord Executioner and Spirit Torment are all available separately with different sculpts as are Evocators, Castigators, Sequitors and Ballistas. The mounted Knight of Shrouds could be released in a start collecting box and its sprue has the Spirit Torment and Guardian of Souls on it (or just that sprue as a direct release) and the Lord Arcanum on a Gryph Charger could be the same with the spare Evocator Prime on the sprue just being an extra (or even rebranded as a Knight Incantor). Then you'd just need to release a new Knight Incantor (or maybe repackage the £5 Getting Started figure) although Stormsire's Cursebreakers might fill that niche as well.

[The Rumour Thread]

1 hour ago, Neverchosen said:

Despite falling into the doom and gloom crowd I am curious how many releases necrons and nighthaunt received beyond their big boxes? I feel like it could be possible that a 'wave' within a week might be dedicated to IJ and BS... even if it is something as small as a new Hero for Iron Jawz (maybe a hero in a scrapwork chariot pulled by pigs that can be built as a non-heroic unit) and maybe a small elite unit for BoneSplitterz.

Nighthaunt got: 

Not in Soul Wars: 9

Bladegheist Revenants, Dreadscythe Harridans, Black Coach, Kurdoss Valentian, Reikenor, Dreadblade Harrows, Lady Olynder, Myrmourn Banshees, Endless Spells

Alternate/full kits/repacked sprues of Soul Wars figures: 5

Chainrasp Hordes, Liekoron, Grimghast Reapers, Glaivewraith Stalkers, Crawlocke

Plus the Thorns of the Briar Queen for Underworlds so 15 releases in total.

 

Necrons got:
 

Not in Indomitus: 11

Flayed Ones, Chronomancer, Psychomancer, Void Dragon, Hexmark, Lokhust, Doomstalker, Ophydians, Szarekh, Terrain, Monolith

Alternate/full kits/repacked sprues of Indomitus units: 3

Necron Warriors/Scarabs, Skorpekh Destroyers, "Royal Court" 

So 14 separate releases although one of those is an overpriced character sprue repackaged.

 

I would guess we'll see some of the sprues from the Kruleboyz side repacked as is whilst another 9-10 releases (including the Breaka-boss and Beast-skewer) plus at least one Warhammer Underworlds warband next season

[Mortal Realms collection: stopping immediatly after first pack?]

16 minutes ago, GeneralZero said:

booskshop: issue 2 issue 3 => 15eur no gift

Subscription + cancelation = issue 2 + Issue 3 + 2 GW tools + glue = 4.99eur.

Hence my question about somebody experiencing it ?

I suggest having a read through the terms and conditions of subscribing. If I remember rightly you have to give them a month's notice of cancelling and that's where people have the most horror stories with Hachette. So I would anticipate being subscribed for the first two deliveries at minimum if you tried that. If you want the whole thing it's worth subscribing, I've had no issues with that side of thing for both Conquest and Mortal Realms, but just getting a few issues I would recommend giving the terms and conditions a good long read then work out if you'd prefer to just order the individual issues instead. 

[Collecting Multiple Armies]

6 hours ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said:

I totally get it from a painting/collecting standpoint. If that was all I was doing with my models I'd probably do the same. But since there is a game attached to them that I want to play, as well, and I know I am painting at least somewhat in service of playing it, I would not be able to buy just one of everything without feeling bad. Like, am I really going to paint upwards of 2000 points and not have a playable army by the end of it?

I think the thing to remember is that "playable" has a broad meaning. I mainly buy to build and paint so tend to follow rule of cool with my purchasing choices but at the end of it, when I have 2000+ points of an army, that's still playable regardless of whether it's built to be competitive or even especially functional. I can use my armies amongst themselves with friends to play casual engaging games without having to collect 3 of the same unit because it's optimal if it jars with the flavour of my army. And that's just as valid a way to play as any other.