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5 hours ago, Maogrim said:
Oh yeah, you're right about Lyrior's magic. I stand corrected.
I hope you'll be doing well. It's always nice to see more variety than just Syar Sentinel spam.
Dawnriders are amazing models but an incredible amount of work. After my second rider is finished I'll do a few Stone Guard before switching back to them.
Had a thought would it be worth running the dawnriders as a unit of 10 to benefit more from the deadly furrows ability and the flaming weapons combo, for 30 attacks 3/3/-1/2 on the charge against 1 wound models for a heavy hitting chaff killer or better with 2 units of 5 for more board control and the ability to take speed of hysh?
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7 minutes ago, Maogrim said:
Oh yeah, you're right about Lyrior's magic. I stand corrected.
I hope you'll be doing well. It's always nice to see more variety than just Syar Sentinel spam.
Dawnriders are amazing models but an incredible amount of work. After my second rider is finished I'll do a few Stone Guard before switching back to them.
Aye, it's gunna be painful to paint it, but will be nice to play them in a fairly different way.
Will likely have to proxy them for a few games first to see if it works before commiting to that many kangaroos though XD
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6 hours ago, Aelfric said:
I would just like to wish you luck painting 30 Windchargers and 10 Dawnriders. I have painted 5 of each (almost finished my Roos) and that is enough for me for a while.
It looks like a fun list, but I'm not the person to ask on competitiveness.
Have done 5 dawnriders and it wasn't fun, and have 10 wind chargers so far unpainted, may paint them and proxy the list to see how it works before commiting
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1 hour ago, Maogrim said:
Looks certainly fun and like a nightmare for slower, melee-based armies. But you might have a problem against shooting and Mortal wounds, but then again: who doesn't?
Keep in mind that Lyrior's lance won't get the additional shot since he's locked into Ymetrica and can't get the Helon keyword. Furthermore his spell is Greater Power of Hysh. You can't change it to Lambent Light, which also means that you don't have Lambent Light in your army except if you're willing to lose the Blessing on the Cathallar.
Thank you for coming back to me, thought that would be the case on the lance, but it's still useful for the additional command point on a 2+.
He should still be able to take a spell from the book without sacrificing anything, as book spells are taken in addition to the spells they know, he is a vanari wizard so can take a spell from the Lore of hysh in addition to the one on his warscroll.
But I agree with you on ranged armies and high MW output am hoping the 63 shots per turn from the wind chargers helps with those threats XD
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Idea for a Helon list, anyone got any suggestions or tweaks they think it may need
Allegiance: Lumineth Realm Lords
- Great Nation: Helon
- Grand Strategy: Hold the Line
- Triumphs:
Leaders
Hurakan Windmage (120)**
- General
- Command Trait: Skyrace Grand Champion
- Artefact: Metalith Dust
- Lore of the Winds: Transporting Vortex
Scinari Cathallar (145)**
- Lore of Hysh: Ethereal Blessing
Lyrior Uthralle, Warden of Ymetrica (215)**
- Lore of Hysh: Lambent Light
Battleline
10 x Hurakan Windchargers (310)*
10 x Hurakan Windchargers (310)*
10 x Hurakan Windchargers (310)*
Units
5 x Vanari Dawnriders (140)**
- Spell1: Lore of Hysh: Speed of Hysh
5 x Vanari Dawnriders (140)**
- Spell1: Universal Spell Lore: Flaming Weapon
1 x Hurakan Spirit of the Wind (265)**
Endless Spells & Invocations
Chronomantic Cogs (45)
Core Battalions
*Hunters of the Heartlands
**Warlord
Total: 2000 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 3 / 4
Wounds: 106
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4 hours ago, woolf said:
if u have the models i wound consider dropping eltharion and twinstones and add in another 20 wardens so u have some more bodies and combat output
Don't have the models unfortunately, think there's going to be quite a heavy gargant presence at the tourney aswell, so I'm hoping eltharion can tie a mega gargant up for a turn or two whilst I can whittle down the rest of the army
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Got a 2k point tournament tomorrow taking the following list
Nation - zaitrec
Core battalion -battle regiment
Heroes
Teclis - 740pts
Light of eltharion - 240pts
Loreseeker (not in battalion) - 170 pts, spells - lambent light & solar flare
Cathalar - 145pts - general, - CT = fast learner, artifact = gift of celennar, spells - ethereal blessing & speed of hysh
Units
10 x vanari wardens x2 (290pts) spell - solar flare
10 x vanari sentinels x 2 (300 pts) spell- speed of hysh
Endless spells
Twinstones (50)
Cogs (45)
Total pts 1990
Total wounds 74
2 drop list
The plan is take out lone casters or ranged units using the loreseeker turn 1 and either lambent light a big monster or hero unit, or debuff casting in center of lines with solar flare, then cast twinstones on teclis and cogs on cathalar and stack buffs and debuffs (voice of mountain and Total eclipse) and push forward slightly with main forces,
Then let them come to me with eltharion protecting teclis and place vanari off to the sides but within protection of teclis and cathalars ability to absorb aetherquartzs
Later on blast with spells and abilities and hope 1 model survives in a unit when attacked so I can use emotional transference to add the lost models from my vanari to opponents units forcing them to burn 2 command points to keep models around or making it so entire units run.
Can anyone think of any last min tweaks to a list like this or should be good to go?
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6 minutes ago, Ragest said:
I did 18 with full charged twinstones+10+zaitrec+arcane.
That’s my record
The amount of bonuses to cast is crazy if you can get twinstones out o.0
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Somehow managed to roll a 20 to cast a spell with the cathallar o.0 fully charged twinstones and standing next to teclis in a zaitrec list is no joke XD
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Theres a kickstarter for acolyte and jezzail conversion kits going on at the moment if anyones inerested they look pretty good
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21 minutes ago, Maddpainting said:
Just the normal "thanks for your input" i wrote about 3 pages for IDK tho. I went into heavy details on averages of other armies for points and how the rules effect us, etc.. i didn't just say "I think this so please do this" b.c they ask not to do that. I gave very good reasons with examples, i gave pros and cons, etc...
My main points tho was
Shark, -20pts, remove monster keyword
Eidolons -60pts each
Morrsarr +10pts
Turtle -80pts
Lotan/Soulrender -20pts
Thralls/Reavers -10pts
Royal Council cheaper or free abilityYou managed to get a few of them though which is pretty good
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20 minutes ago, Maddpainting said:
Yep, idk why it has it, completely ruins it for me as i always play with the turtle and some spells only effect monsters, and b.c some many of the good units are monsters some players takes those spells (mostly to counter HoS and Fec). And like i said, you cant get cover (monster 8 wounds).
I asked GW (when they made that announcement to email them ideas for points/rules changes a year ago) to make the Shark 120pts and remove the Monster keyword.Did you get any reply to email?
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I supose you can get around the ruled by screening with king or volturnos and putting him in front as they benefit from cover to save on a 2+
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5 minutes ago, Maddpainting said:
Thats my point, there is no rules that says what is a mount and what isnt, the turtle has 5 guys on it, how is that not a mount? The shark is also a monster, why is that a mount then?
On another note, the Shark being a monster is one of the main reasons i dont like it, it cant getDunno never noticed the monster keyword on the shark 😕
its a bit small compared to most monsters so i never thought to look for it
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1 hour ago, Maddpainting said:
I was trying to look at the rules for it in the BRB and it doesnt go into much detail (never know till you look) i also looked into the battletome too, there isn't any clear rules on if hey can or can not, i would email the faq team.
But also that got me thinking (as its next to the mount rules) the Mount rules are also not clear at all, i have been using the Eels and the Turtle themselves (not the riders) as a mount, no one has questioned it, but going by RAW there is no rules for our units having "mounts" as they dont have the keyword, but just like the command group dont have any rules either (besides they have weapons also).
Some of the rules are very RAI it seems.Ive been classing the turtle as a monster and not a mount but eels and sharks have been used as mounts with fuethan because i dont see how anyone could argue that they arent mounts.
With the banner bearer and musician ill ping an email over as its not like they have banner in one hand and horn in the other so i dont see why it cant be the same model ill let ye know if i get an answer
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In the akhelian guard command group can the standard bearer also be the musician because i cant find anything saying they have to be two seperate models
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alright no issues there put me down for a curry, where were you thinking that's nearby?
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1 minute ago, Skreech Verminking said:
I painted around 200clanrats.
Never made it to 300+ Clanrats, although beeing the owner of arounf 500of them.
is the one issue i have with skaven is the sheer amount of small throwaway models you need to paint up, but i suppose thats what you get when you pick a horde army
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33 minutes ago, Skreech Verminking said:
Yeah and now you know why nobody bothered to deep-strike there stuff,
although the chance never was there at the beginning anyway
painting all that up must have been pretty soul destroying, got to 100 clanrats and then swapped to moulder for 18 rat ogres
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Just now, Skreech Verminking said:
Well You havent met the people who fought my 320clanrats list
XD wouldnt that just take up most the table?
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23 hours ago, Gulug1974 said:
Reasonably local. It will be taxi or short drive to get there. I will go around and see who is coming on Saturday. Table booked for 10 at the moment.
i may be up for just gotta clear it with the boss
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i find moulders always good for catching people unprepared
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17 hours ago, Num said:
Hi, I have sone questions about clan Moulder please:
- does the master moulder ability restore the unit as it was at the beginning (e.g. 40 giant rats) or as it was when destroyed (e.g. 10 giant rats were left in the unit when they got destroyed)?
- do you think that the battalion is worth the 160pts for the single drop and the 4+ instead of 5+ ability?
- has anybody played moulder lists with some success?
I think I'll try a core with a screaming bell, chronomantic cogs, master moulders, 80 giant rats and 6 rat ogors (I don't have any hellpit abomination yet)
Cheers
i play a moulder list that im having a fair amount of success with providing the dice gods are in my favour and im not against ironjawz (bloodtooth battalion)
current list looks like this and it seems to be alright ( would likely have more success if i remembered to use my rabid crown artefact)
Spoiler220 - grey seer on screaming bell - verminous valour (command trait) - death frenzy (spell) - skavenbrew (artefact)
100 - master moulder (battalion with whip) - rabid crown (artefact)
100 - master moulder (things catcher)
300 - rat ogors x 6 (battalion)
300 - rat ogors x 6 (battalion)
300 - rat ogors x 6 (battalion)
180 - Giant Rats x 30 (battalion)
240 - Hell pit abomination (battalion)
160 - Fleshmeld menagerie
60 - packmasters (battalion)
40 - Vermintide (endless spell )
i would say the 4+ is worth it from the battalion as it gives you a 50% chance of a revive on a full squad of ogres rather then a 33% chance,
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On 6/17/2019 at 7:45 AM, Phil D said:
Any suggestions for a good local hotel?
Could go here is not too far out the way
AoS3 - Lumineth Realm-lords Discussion
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The entire unit has the wizard keyword and is only a wizard when it contains so many models, in that regard it should effect the whole unit as the unit is the caster, at least that's how I'm reading it