[AoS 2 - Maggotkin of Nurgle Discussion]

In more casual play is Morbidex, Bloab & Orghott any good? Same with the Glottkin? Looking at their stats they seem to fill kinda weird roles.

[AoS 2 - Maggotkin of Nurgle Discussion]

10 hours ago, sal4m4nd3r said:

Competitively speaking, horticulous and beasts are unplayable.  Competitively speaking, a summoning build is unplayable. There are novelty artefacts and abilities to add contagion points, but in reality it doesn't add up to much when it takes 2 turns to muster the points needed to summon one nurgling base or 5 plaguebearers. 

Competitively speaking what type of lists do work? For daemons / mortals respectively?  Like in general, not specialists tournament winning lists! Is it just Blight cyst and the GOU batallion?

[AoS 2 - Maggotkin of Nurgle Discussion]

59 minutes ago, hughwyeth said:

Quick feedback would be drop sloppity, gutrot (the deepstrike is mostly useless in most scenarios), beasts of nurgle and nurglings. 

He has Horticulous, which is the character to build a "summoning" list around. Those 3 nurglings will be summonable from turn 2/3 for free. Plague drones are the best damage output we have. There's a debate about running 2x3 or 6 as 6 can almost never be all in combat but giving a unit of 6 blades of putrefaction and triggering their locus makes them very powerful. I would suggest he gets another 20 plaguebearers to make 2x30 and another 5 blightkings to make a decent 10 man unit (41 wounds!).  

Against magic heavy is a struggle as the best spells are mortal ones (Festus', Blades of Putrefaction) and you can't get any bonus summoning for mortal nurgle. Nurgle's strength in that scenario would be the daemon's resilience with the 5++ save, so more plaguebearers should help. If he can get summoning going with lots of points per turn, it can help to control the board a bit more. 

That's interesting! For summoning build do you need to go full Nurgle's Menagerie or is Slimux's extra tree enough to warrant focusing on it?

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1 hour ago, Dreadmund said:

What's your list like? Your friend's list is not a very balanced. It seems to me he's just playing casually with what models he likes/owns which is fine obviously but if you're coming at him with a tournament level list when he's just playing what he has lying around for fun I'm not surprised he's having a bad time.

We both own a lot of models,  what I played against my friend last time was:

LoC
Herald on Foot
Gaunt Summoner
Curseling

10x Pinks
10x Pinks
30x Chaos Warriors

5x Chaos Chosen
6x Screamers

[AoS 2 - Maggotkin of Nurgle Discussion]

4 hours ago, Sedraxis said:

Nurgle generally has a pretty good matchup against magic-heavy armies because the 5+ saves they get. What's his army like and is he playing objectives properly?

You might just be better then him at the game, in which case you could try to help him with his tactics/list building or play unfavorable scenarios to give yourself an extra challenge.

My friend's most recent list was something like:

Sloppity Bilepiper
Great Unclean one (bell + dagger) (Witherstave)
Gotrot Spume
The Grand Cultivator (Horticulus Slimux?)
Rotbringer Sorcerer

5x blightkings (deepstrike with gotrot)
30x Plague Bearers
10x Plague Bearers

3x Plague drones
3x Plague Drones
2x Beasts of Nurgle
3x nurglings (deepstrike)

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What I often find is me having 10+ casts per round I tend to melt a lot of the important targets before they reach me and/or sniping the heroes to break the synnergies. Once they reach my army my wall of pink horrors often means I'm still safe for a round or two. Objectives I often win by having quick flying heroes summon near objectives and simply drowning the enemy in blue / brim horrors.  Neither of us are using endless spells atm, I'm afraid introducing it would further increase my power, but maybe not? Since my friend will have access to stuff like cogs / lifeswarm.

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How do Nurgle daemons / maggotkin generally deal with spellcaster heavy armies?  I keep beating a friend at a local gamestore with my tzeentch daemon caster army and I worry my friend will lose interest because of it.

[AoS 2 - Free Peoples Discussion]

A friend of mine at work wants to get into AoS2, but is sad that there is no battle tome for TFP. Are they still viable for play, or is it better to hold off?