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    AoS 2 - Bretonnia Discussion

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    Posted · Edited by Lamekh

    I'd add a Damsel or an Archmage for FNP  too, and leave some spare points for an extra CP

    Grail Knights are the better option, I'd prob get even more of those, not sold on the Trebuchet, tbh

    AoS 2 - Legion Of Azgorh Discussion

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    16 hours ago, Televiper11 said:

    he was quickly killed cuz he stands out on the battlefield and will be immediately targeted by your opponent.

    Agree, that he's fragile, but if the opponent concentrates on killing him, your other units should make it into CC....

    I'd rather have him kill Shartor than my Taur'ruk General

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    2 hours ago, Iggy Starhost said:

    I run Strategic genius on him for an extra cp. What would mean an extra +1 to hit with the Sword of Judgement so I can oneshot early in the game

    Cheers, meaning you use the extra CP for his "King of the Realm" Ability + "Divine Favour" Spell for +2 to Hit

    AoS 2 - Legion Of Azgorh Discussion

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    Posted · Edited by Lamekh

    Sounds like you've got a solid Battleline Base, which is good, things your list is lacking are "fast" CC units (Kdaii, Renders, Skullcrackers) and or more Firepower (more Magmas) this depends entirely on you, how you want to play your list...

    The same can be said about Chaos Allies, I've seen lists with a Sorcerer Lord some also use Skarr Bloodwrath Sp? for Hordes, Gutrot Spume and Blight Kings, etc 

    I'm currently toying around with Blight King allies...

     

    AoS 2 - Legion Of Azgorh Discussion

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    45 minutes ago, Televiper11 said:

    I misunderstood your question. 😉

    Just noted my phone auto-corrected my reply 🙄 

    What Azgorh or Chaos models do you have, might help in building a list?

    I'm not sold on the Hellcannon at all, not sure why you're giving a daemonsmith the cloak? I'd use that on a support character for mobile CC units, i.e. on the BSB to buff Kdaai or Renders

    The Chalice might be another idea for the daemonsmith to potentially shutdown an opponents magic phase

    AoS 2 - Phoenix Temple Discussion

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    Think you'd have 2/8 and should be okay

    Allegiance: Phoenix Temple

    Anointed of Asuryan on Frostheart Phoenix (280)
    Anointed of Asuryan on Frostheart Phoenix (280)
    Anointed of Asuryan on Flamespyre Phoenix (380) - General
    Loremaster (140) - Allies
    20 x Phoenix Guard (280)
    20 x Phoenix Guard (280)
    10 x Phoenix Guard (140)
    5 x Sisters of the Thorn (220) - Allies

    Total: 2000 / 2000
    Extra Command Points: 0
    Allies: 360 / 400
    Wounds: 101

     

    List is valid in both Azyr and Warscroll Builder ...

    Though I'd prob. run 3 Frosthearts and an Anointed on foot instead of the Flamespyre

     

    Phoenix Temple 2k.pdf

    AoS 2 - Phoenix Temple Discussion

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    6 hours ago, TopHatCat said:

    1. Can 1k lists be built/viable?  (Guessing 2 Anointed on Frosthearts and 30 Guard? Or 1 Frostheart, ally Mage and fill rest with 40~ Guard)

    Sure, I'd go for sth like this though:

    Allegiance: Phoenix Temple
    Mortal Realm: Aqshy
    Anointed of Asuryan on Frostheart Phoenix (280) - General, Master of Defense, Ignax's Scales 
    Anointed (80)
    Archmage (100) - Mount: Steed, Allies
    30 x Phoenix Guard (360)
    10 x Phoenix Guard (140)
    Endless Spell(s) (40)
    Total: 1000 / 1000
    Extra Command Points: 0
    Allies: 100 / 200
    Wounds: 62

    Personally I'm not a fan of the unkillable Anointed ;) but it works

    6 hours ago, TopHatCat said:

    2. If I start at 1k and build up to 2k, is the faction worth the investment? Or monetarily is it overpriced/underpowered?

    Imo the faction is neither overpriced nor underpowered, but since it's a compendium list it might disappear, or it might be integrated into an Aelven Battletome...

    6 hours ago, TopHatCat said:

    What is the definitive/"best" or atleast most popular 2k list composition?

    probably 2 Anointed on Frosthearts, 1 Anointed on foot, a ton of Phoenix Guard and as many casters as you can manage due to restrictions

     

    6 hours ago, TopHatCat said:

    4. How long (if ever) do you think it would be until they get a true tome, and when they do, do you think it would change a lot/make certain models unviable (like currently there's no pts cost to mounting an Anointed on a Phoenix, so no reason not to)

    Doubt they'll get a true Tome, but I think they could be part of the Teclis/Tyrion one...

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    AoS 2 - Legion Of Azgorh Discussion

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    Posted · Edited by Lamekh

    On 1/3/2019 at 1:06 PM, tamthethird said:

    This is my idea for an initial 1000 points.

    It's primarily driven by the old school big-hat models I already own (command, ironsworn and the rocket), plus what I think is actually decent in their PDF - fireglaives and fireborn.

    I plan to get the fireglaives from Norba miniatures and use Spirit Hosts for the fireborn (which I've seen before and am shamelessly stealing, because it looks cool)

    I would appreciate thoughts on unit sizes in a 1000 point game. I have a feeling fireglaives might be better in two units of 10 or that I should commit to one unit of 6 fireborn.

    Eventually I would expand it out similar to Rob's list on Honest Wargamer, though I wouldn't go all in on Fireglaives (though I would add more), but also take the remainder of my big hats in a block of 30.

    First thing is to get all the old stuff rebased onto lava resin rounds 🙂

    I'd run a Taur'ruk and 2 x 20 Glaives instead of the Shrieker, Ironsworn and Castellan, if you run a large unit of K'daii you might want to consider adding a Sorcerer Lord to buff these with Daemonic Power

    Good Luck :)

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    AoS 2 - Bretonnia Discussion

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    Posted · Edited by Lamekh
    fixed spelling

    4 hours ago, Drakilian said:

    @Lamekh I would say look into (for ally options) instead of the pheonix if you have the models :

    Archmage (Eldritch Council) 100pts:  His spell gives everything within 18" of him 6+ ignore wounds or mortal wounds. It stacks with Divine Blessing. So your knights can have a 4+ (Reroll 1s on charge, lower if rend), 5+ (Divine Blessing), and 6+ (Archmage). He can also be put on a mount to keep up with the knights.

    Sisters of the Thorn (Wanderers) 220pts:  Their not only a unit, but a group of spell casters. 5 girls on stag mounts, that can cast and deny 1 spell. Their also as good as Knight Errants in a fight, and have ranged attacks (only 9'). However their spell gives a unit the ability to re-roll all failed save rolls. On top of that, any save roll of 6 does a mortal wound back to the attacker after all attacks have been made.

    For your Bretonnian Units, I like Knights of the Realm if you can manage a squad of 16. Their great at holding the line and/or dishing the damage. However they need to be 10+ to be effective. As they get a passive re-roll 1s to hit to both rider and mount if above 10. And should the king ever die... they have a 6? 7? bravery? unlike the Knight Errants having a lowly peasant level bravery (what the heck GW...).

    Thanks, I'll look into this, both would be great for the anointed too, stacking his save  ;)

    Not sure if the Steed or Pegasus is better for the Damsel, anyone toyed around with this? Especially when using multiple Knights Errant

    Isn't Bretonnia a mixed Order List? Since there is no Allegiance to choose from ie in the Warscroll Builder, meaning I wouldn't be limited to 400 pts in Allies...

    Cheers

     

     

    AoS 2 - Bretonnia Discussion

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    Posted · Edited by Lamekh

    Not sure about the Gryph-feather Charm, I am considering a -3 Rend weapon to add a little more punch, or Scales for a 4+ mortal Wound Save 

    Any suggenstions on improving the list are much appreciated 🙂

    Cheers

    Allegiance: Order
    Mortal Realm: Ghur
    King on Hippogryph (400) - General, Legendary Fighter, Gryph-feather Charm 
    Enchantress (160)
    Damsel (100)
    Battlemage (120) - Specialisation: Amber, Allies
    Anointed of Asuryan on Frostheart Phoenix (280) - Allies
    8 x Knights Errant (200)
    8 x Knights Errant (200)
    16 x Men At Arms (120)
    10 x Grail Knights (360)
    Chronomantic Cogs (60)

    Total: 2000 / 2000
    Extra Command Points: 0
    Allies: 400 / 400
    Wounds: 105

    Dropping the Ment At Arms and the Anointed would free up some points to add a Sacred Protector and another 8 Errant Knights... 

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    AoS 2 - Legion Of Azgorh Discussion

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    Posted · Edited by Lamekh
    typo

    Trying to make my Herd List a bit more competative, and I'm running following setup atm:

    Allegiance: Legion of Azgorh
    Mortal Realm: Ghur

    Bull Centaur Taur'ruk (160) - General, Grotesque, Gryph-feather Charm 
    Drazhoath The Ashen (320)
    Shar'tor the Executioner (220)

    20 x Infernal Guard Fireglaives (200)
    20 x Infernal Guard Fireglaives (200)
    20 x Infernal Guard Fireglaives (200)

    3 x Bull Centaur Renders (180)
    3 x Bull Centaur Renders (180)
    3 x Bull Centaur Renders (180)

    Execution Herd (160)

    Total: 2000 / 2000
    Extra Command Points: 1
    Allies: 0 / 400
    Wounds: 133

    used to run Shar'tor, Draz, Smith, Taur'ruk, 3 x 3 Battleline Renders, 12 K'Daai, Shackles and Herd, but found the lack of bodies to be a problem....

    Any ideas? Cheers

     

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    Thanks for the input ?

    I wanted the list to be fast & mobile and CC orientated, even thinking of swapping the Daemonsmith for a 2nd Taur'ruk with Chalice (I know he won't benefit from the Herd rules), my standard List has Bulls & shooting, so I wanted to do sth different ?

    Are Jabberslythes or any other Monster any good? To use either as K'Daai Destroyers or "Lammasu"

    Cheers

     

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    I'm currently trying to figure out how best to run the Execution Herd, any advise on this? Cheers

    Spoiler
    Allegiance: Legion of Azgorh
    Mortal Realm: Aqshy

    Bull Centaur Taur'ruk (160) - Armour of Bazherak the Cruel
    Daemonsmith (100)     - Chalice of Blood and Darkness
    Drazhoath The Ashen (320)
    Shar'tor the Executioner (220) - General
    3 x Bull Centaur Renders (180)
    3 x Bull Centaur Renders (180)
    3 x Bull Centaur Renders (180)
    3 x K'Daai Fireborn (140)
    3 x K'Daai Fireborn (140)
    Skullcracker War Engine (200)
    Execution Herd (160)
    Soulsnare Shackles (20)

    Total: 2000 / 2000
    Extra Command Points: 1
    Allies: 0 / 400
    Wounds: 107

    I was thinking of dropping the Skullcracker and Daemonsmith for an Incarnate Elemental of Fire to run as a K'Daai Destroyer, but it hasnt got the bloody Chaos Keyword ?

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