[AoS 2 - Free Peoples Discussion]

19 hours ago, Caspeur said:

I wish. If by "not-too-distant" you mean in 2 years, then yeah I guess

where are you getting this "two years" nonsense? Beasts of Chaos and Skaven both got allegiance abilities in the GHB the same year their battletomes came out, like just a few months before.

[AoS 2 - Beastclaw Raiders Discussion]

11 hours ago, gnaleinad said:

Woah, take a chill pill guys. Luckily I do know what I was talking about.

It's really sad that no one here bothers to clarify with their General Handbook on what's defined as an allied unit.

Now we work backwards... Does the Moonclan Fungoid Cave Shaman count toward the  maximum number of Heroes you can have? Yes. Did you pay for the cost of the Fungoid Cave Shaman using your allied unit points? Yes.

So is the Fungoid Cave Shaman an allied unit? Hmm. Is it really difficult?

Your eyes is seeing what your hearts wants to see.

So am I making anything up? Or are the people here wishing for winning formula? 

Yet anyone with a sense of fair play will smell the cheese. Indeed are they are cheap Wizards but the Moonclan Fungoid Cave Shaman has no business with the Beastclaw Raiders, even their command ability doesn't even affect them. 

Will the Ogor let a creature they normally use as snack or food order them around? Hell no.

Let's end this silly discussion, because the proof has been provided.

Time to move to other more important topics.

 

Yeaaahhh, except I’m pretty sure this is from GHB2017 and the Malign Portents rule’s over-rule it. You’re so set on being right I’m betting you never bothered to read the actual Malign Portents book to check the rulings there

[AoS 2 - Beastclaw Raiders Discussion]

5 hours ago, gnaleinad said:

In order to use Stornhorns/Thundertusks as battleline your army must be a Beastclaw Raiders allegiance army.

Yes it is also a destruction grand alliance army. 

So yes according to the ruling you can have the Fungoid Cave Shaman. But the numbers is the first issue. Because it is considered an allied unit.

Why?

The Fungoid Cave Shaman does not share the same keyword as the army's allegiance, which is Beastclaw Raiders, so it's an unit using allied points.

So how is an unit using allied points not an allied unit? 

It is an allied unit. Nothing in the FAQ states that a Fungoid Cave Shaman is not an allied unit just because it shares the same grand alliance. It just say that it will not affect the army's allegiance choice.

And so the 1 is to 4 ratio stands.

And looking even deeper since it is considered an allied unit and checking the list of allied choice, you realize you are not supposed to have the unit as an allied unit. 

It's called an exception buddy.

GW has explicitly stated that these harbingers can be used in any army of their Grand Alliance and not count as an "ally". You can rules lawyer all you want, but GW made their intention perfectly clear that they wanted you to be able to use  these guys in any army in your GA. BCR and the Shaman both share the "GA Destruction" keyword, so he can be included, but that doesn't mean he has to take the GA destruction allegiance, as he can still take his BCR allegiance without the Shaman getting in the way of things, since GW said they don't count as a traditional "ally".

[AoS 2 - Beastclaw Raiders Discussion]

So does anyone have an idea for a semi-decent 1k list? Just got a SC box on an impulse, and have 5 fenrisian wolves I’ll use as saberteeth. 

1250 is also fine if 1k is too much

 

 

[AoS 2 - Stormcast Eternals Discussion]

18 minutes ago, Primes said:

You know what i find quite disappointing (although i could have known it in advance)? 

The massive usage of one type of Hero: Lord Arcanum!

We have: On foot, on Charger, on Dracoline, on Tauralon as well as two of those as named versions. They share the Storm Cycle, the Suicide Flasks, the pimped Arcane Bolt and partly even the Command Ability. 

I know we are spoiled but at least for the named versions i was hoping for a more creative approach (See Nighthaunt!!)

 

Isn’t it like this for the Lord Celestant though? On foot, on Dracoth, on Stardrake, with Gavriel and Vandus being named versions, and Gavriel even getting his own model with no generic equivalent?

[AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion]

So my fellow Skullreapers, what is a decent 1k list to start out with? 

I’ve just ordered a box of Reavers but not really sure what’s best to run at that points level

[AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion]

Even though things don’t look great so far for Khorne this edition, I’m going in on an army anyways since my LGS has the old Slaughterstorm box for a great price. 

Do you think buying a Khorne Daemon SC box would supplement a Mortal List well, or should I just go full Mortals and pick up either the Bloodbound SC or the StD SC?

 

Also, for my fellow Khornate, eBay is having a sale today only until 7pm PT, $15 off of a purchase of $75 or more, so if you need something for your army, today’s a good day to buy it