That's my point - the basic metrics to define value aren't consistent because as Lemon Knuckles points out in the following post - value would depend on a definitive game state. Definitive game state = for example what scenarios are used, what the terrain looks like, what the likely opponents are, what the skill level of the players is.  See also my previous posts in this thread.  How do you value two models with the same stat line, one flies the other doesn't? How do you value two models w