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Hey Everyone You can see I have posted comments on Flesh Eater Courts a bit. However i realised there is real no Discussion on the allegiance as a whole. Unlike other allegiances like sylvaneth and stormcast etc, where they have a thread dedicate on talking about their rules. I'm coming from a Sylvaneth play style, I had so many artifacts, spells and many other options to take when playing in match play. Now moving into FEC after reading the book, there is no real "Meat" as i would say. Amazing Lore don't get me wrong, but with the lack of Choices in list building. Which I understand everyone who is a death player is getting frustrated with the lack of choice in taking artefacts, most factions are! However I feel the Generals Handbook 2.0 Will change that, with hopefully seeing each allegiance/army that has their own battletombe with no "Meat". Where i think we will see powerful artefacts for FEC especially something cool like SCE have with their rider heroes giving their beasts traits, Spells that can bring back slain models or buff them up somehow. Also giving Magic buffing and combat buffing treasures. That is for every faction BTW not just generic Death ones we have today. Especially with one of the most powerful artefacts being "nerfed" in the FAQ late last year. So lets get this conversation going where we share what we want to see FEC get, i understand it isn't the most popular faction, however they have their own TOMBE and most people don't see them working competitively as a lot of the command abilities is about summoning which costs match play points. But I feel different where I reckon i have wrote a few list with FEC in my mind that would actually be considered "Top Table" worthy. For example i'll share you my 2K list and my 2.5K list that I am building up for a few tournaments here in Australia. Also want to discuss how people use different units in the game and tactics that they use with models like Crypt Ghouls in Ghoul Patrol. 2K List: Allegiance: Flesh Eater CourtsLeadersAbhorrant Ghoul King on Terrorgheist(400)- Artefact: Cloak of Mists and ShadowsCrypt Infernal Courtier (140)- General- Trait: Ruler of the Night- Artefact: Cursed BookVarghulf Courtier (160)Battleline6 x Crypt Flayers (320)- Flesh Eater Courts Battleline (Crypt Infernal Courtier General)6 x Crypt Flayers (320)- Flesh Eater Courts Battleline (Crypt Infernal Courtier General)3 x Crypt Flayers (160)- Flesh Eater Courts Battleline (Crypt Infernal Courtier General)BehemothsTerrorgheist (320)BattalionsDeadwatch (160)Total: 1980/2000 2.5K Allegiance: Flesh Eater CourtsLeadersAbhorrant Ghoul King on Terrorgheist(400)- Artefact: Cloak of Mists and ShadowsCrypt Infernal Courtier (140)- General- Trait: Ruler of the Night- Artefact: Cursed BookAbhorrant Ghoul King on Zombie Dragon(400)Varghulf Courtier (160)Battleline6 x Crypt Flayers (320)- Flesh Eater Courts Battleline (Crypt Infernal Courtier General)6 x Crypt Flayers (320)- Flesh Eater Courts Battleline (Crypt Infernal Courtier General)3 x Crypt Flayers (160)- Flesh Eater Courts Battleline (Crypt Infernal Courtier General)10 x Crypt Ghouls (100)BehemothsTerrorgheist (320)BattalionsDeadwatch (160)Total: 2480/2500 There very similar lists, however I feel at the way the deadwatch works at 2.5K their quite powerful especially with the GK on ZD around in the hero phase and also having two Courtiers to bring back a whole back on a 5+ is quite powerful. So what is everyone recently running? Thinking about building? Conversions etc? Let's get this conversation going and see people just want to run mixed death. - Okami
ObiJon02 posted a topic in DeathHey all- I'm building some online tools for AoS in a similar spirit to TonyP's amazing Warscroll Builder (scrollbuilder.com). I noticed that WSB doesn't support the GA:Death "Beasts of the Grave" versions of the Terrorgheist and Zombie Dragon - only the FEC versions of both. Azyr, the army builder included with GW's AoS app, seems to support both and provides point values for both versions (320pts for both models under both FEC and BotG factions). Oddly, the GHB doesn't include any points for the 'Beasts of the Grave' faction and the GHB 'Pitched Battle Profiles' errata/update didn't either (https://www.games-workshop.com/en-EU/Rules-Errata). Neither of these BotG warscrolls are mentioned specifically in any of the FAQs. Two main things I'd love to get your thoughts on: - From a Rules perspective: what I gathered reading through some older posts here was still some split opinions on whether the BotG version was supported/valid for Matched Play (last thread around Dec 2016). No question, GW could be clearer by including their BotG points in an updated 'Pitched Battle Profiles' errata or directly FAQ'ing these two models. However, the question of whether they are valid for Matched Play seems more definitively settled now as Azyr includes both versions and points them both. Is that the general consensus? Is Azyr is now *the* definitive resource in these sorts of questions? - Practical reality: Do folks generally come across the GA:Death / 'Beasts of the Grave' version of these models 'in the wild?' Do you use them in your lists? Has this somewhat confusing difference been a source of contention in any games you or your friends have played? All this to ask, what is worth supporting on my end as a tools developer! Thanks for your time and help!
In matched play is the beasts of the grave version of the Terrorgheist still playable? The points for a Terrorgheist is only given under the flesh eater courts section, does this mean I have to use that version? I'm looking to summon one.