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100% with you, but you accidentally linked to some random CoS guy while obviously talking about THE HARBINGER OF DECAY, CHAMPION OF GRANDFATHER NURGLE. @michu I'm sorry you want to cancel your project. TBF I quite dislike the named characters and find some models very busy indeed. The new range while nice won't make me get the Army Set, after all. The Marshalls/Arch-Knight/Cavaliers and the Cannon/Warhulk/Fusiliers are all interesting design directions IMO, the first being classic and ghallagerhesque, the second being innovative. Exceptions : CoS Gobbapalooza aka Command Corp (only better : it comes with options whereas the grots do not if I'm not mistaken) : I may get it to paint and convert. Wildercorp warband : I WILL get it for that great game that is Warcry, which will complement the Order cast from Cursed City. I'm glad I was wrong and that there indeed was 4 new kits to be revealed. However, I'm mightily worried by the absence of "intact Azyrite building" official talk on WarCom

Okay I need and want in my life the Arch-Knight, Mascot Gargolian, War Surgeon and flute-death guy. (BTW I love the different re-imaginations of WFB classics. Like the Soul Shepard could be an amethyst wizard coupled with a priest of Morr, etc.)

WOW Glorious ! Tons of new kits / Warscrolls too ! (At last someone cracked open their Battletome early :D)

Yeah probably that. First I though Warcry Ogors but it's too big, the fingers are too articulate. And the gears look football-y.

Yeah I did yesterday ! Apparently it's from David Guymer who did great things with Duardin in AOS. That made me re-read the WarCom articles about designing and mapping Cathay to get a sense of the land and the Dragon characters (and also the Watchtower assault fluff part from Tamurkhan : Throne Of Chaos ❤️). Loved it.

I really like Kruleboyz - such classic vibes mixed with sharp edges scrap armor of LOTR Orcs and Goblins - BUT I must resist collecting them. Now, in a video game...

@Chikout WarCom is currently erratic, they posted a Dawnbringer short story two weeks ago, then four articles last Friday, but no new story, and today now only two articles and zero new model reveal... It's the "Summer low", I guess. Time to paint the backlog and expect nothing new but the Warhammer+ Models this week ! At least the Seraphon Vanguard box looks good and compliments nicely the Army Set and the other Skinks sets they did.

Did I understand the article correctly and it mentions multiple new reveals next week ??

We really just know they'll reveal two more things : 1. Artillery (confirmed on WarCom) and 2. something religious like a War Altar (based on 3d renders seen in the Cult of the Wheel article). That could be Artillery this Monday and Altar the week after, then Box set release the following week-end. I wouldn't expect more units than those two, if the box indeed mentions 52 warscrolls...

Speaking of updates, Chaos Daemons are generally spoiled release-wise, but the range itself is varyingly old (mostly Lesser Daemons) : Just to recap (plastic models still sold) : 2008 : Daemonettes and Bloodletters 2010 : Bloodcrushers, Mounted Daemonettes, Horrors of Tzeentch 2012 : Plaguebearers, Nurglings, Seeker Chariot/Hellflayer, Tzeentch Screamers, Flamers of Tzeentch 2013 : Plague Drones, Blood Throne/Skull Cannon, Burning Chariot/Herald of Tzeentch on Chariot, Herald of Nurgle on foot. 2015 : Bloodthirster and later Skarbrand 2016 and beyond : modern AOS plastic kits for every Chaos Gods Also, Nurgle-related, next year the wonderful Putrid Blightkings kit will be 10 years old. Ouch...

This post is excellent. And I'll further add : Chaos Duardin can and will be and independent army, completing Grand Alliance : Chaos. Malerion Ulgurothi should also get Shadow Daemons (which most probably are a worlbuilding, fluff-only faction like Silent People and Katophrane, alas). Units from Darkling Covens, Dispossessed, Bonesplittaz, Gitmob, Maraudeurs. etc. should get AOS equivalents and/or be sent back to ToW, where they belong originally (aesthetically speaking). Darkoath already are Maraudeurs in everything but name, i.e. Chaos barbarians (but Conanesque in AOS as they are Vikingesque in WFB). Just sent back the old WFB kit, rename the Horsmen kit and we are good to go with 1 Warcry team, two WHU warbands, 4 characters (counting the Exclusive Models), and the "Darkoath Horsmen". AOS as a game and product line doesn't need more new armies at this point, for upgrades and release spotlight reasons, even with a 4-years edition schedule. Orruk Warclans, Gitmobs and Soulblight already contains a great variety of sub-factions for Death and Destruction. Add the like of Gholemkind and Kurnothi units via Warcry, WHU or Warhammer Quest to spice-up factions. All this should happen in the next four years, as 4th edition will have to live next to TOW. Oh, and a mid-edition "ETB" dual boxed set working as a mid starter with a narrative campaign is pure genius.

Yeah I was going to ask exactly that. @Beliman do you play HH ? Can you or someone explain how Psychic Powers work in HH 2nd ed., please ?

Absolutely. And Gallagheresque, too. His old Empire & Bretonnia sketches next to the whole lot he did for Warhammer Quest : Shadow Over Hammerhal is 100% CoS-inspiring : https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/73394668911000115/

Kurnothi for Order and Ogors for Destruction (Maneaters, hopefully, but the rumor engines seems to hint at classic unit design).

I started in 6th ed. and didn't know it was a thing before 6th ! TBF it's probably a way more practical and interesting mechanic than the old "everyone flee in disarray" at the first combat loss... The "large front unit" really should not hint at large infantry units being the norm again like in 8th, please GW ! Of course I'm more interested in the range and look on the battlefield and in books of The Old World than its rules. I really wish for TOW and AOS to have a distinct design and aesthetic (even if they rightfully are part of the same GW "fantasy" family). Having the exact same Dwarfs models in TOW and AOS is a bit "meh". And I'm yet not very keen in seeing those old Trolls and Slayers... Aged quite poorly for a "new" game (and Stone Troggot have 1:1 equivalent in modern plastic now). Also, GW can surely not put back into production so much old things (even if they do Made to Order in metal, plastic or resin). That said, if they sell again the Mighty Fortress, that's instant buy from me But I really wish for TOW and AOS to have a distinct design and aesthetic (even if they rightfully are part of the same GW "fantasy" family). At least focusing in 6th/7th identities for TOW is a good move, but I want them to show us NEW PLASTIC FITTING THE BILL

Precisely. Also, the Thunderstrike range fits really nicely next to the new City one (more down to earth design elements like belts, etc.). So, if GW go ahead and make a Greatswords replacement, I hope it won't look like SCE...

Wonderful models ! Fitting both "city" and "dark woods" themes. I was debating either getting some Freeguild Steelhelm or the WHU Witch Hunters for Warcry ; this is the perfect blend (with added boschian creatures, very nice). Also, article hinting at either big (Ogor/Demi-Mancrusher ?!) or monstrous thingies for the next team... Honestly I wasn't sharing the enthusiasm of many on here about getting so much more units for CoS after last reveal, but now I can really see 1. Artillery (confirmed), 2. Elite infantry (hopefully not looking like SCE) and 3. another character (Priest of some sorts)... HYPE

I just hope the city gets a proper send off in the Dawnbringers fluff ! (Or, why not, in the Cities of Sigmar book itself).

Good move from GW. I for one am fine with the suppression of duplicates - and yeah, the sooner WFB kits go back to their home in ToW, the better ! To be frank I also wished for Darkling Coven (not the Scourge !) to go back to ToW, as they are mainly associated with Har Kuron, Ulgu and Morathi, and it would have heralded the coming of Malerion's Ulgurothi... Oh and and at least upgrade sprues for Griphon, Luminark/Hurricanum and Steam tank, to hide the "Karl Franz" names everywhere. Anyway easy conversion ahead. Glad to have the new Artillery 100% confirmed too

Yeah ! Also mentioned in Dawnbringers Chronicles (part III iirc) : https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/06/09/dawnbringer-chronicles-part-i-the-missive/ https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/06/16/dawnbringer-chronicles-part-ii-ringing-in-the-dawn/ https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/06/23/dawnbringer-chronicles-part-iii-survivors/ https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/06/30/dawnbringer-chronicles-part-iv-da-great-smash/ Alas, nothing for now. Nothing yet either. But the series would be the best place to talk about it (or the CoS book itself, of course...). @Snarff we are on the same page. Between AOS releases for COS and FEC, new season of Warcry, Black Library, Warhammer+ and the series itself, we'll have lot of potential slots for the new models you mentioned

Love them - in my top 3* ! I was a bit unsure after the Manticore Lady reveal (I know, minority here), but today we are clearly back on track. Can't wait for the CANNON *My personal ranking, from best to just-less-best :

I forgot to add to my list : Anyway I wonder if their appearance in Hammer & Bolter - just like Neave Blacktalon in her own show in Thunderstrike Armor - heralds a models release soonish with Dawnbringers / Cities of Sigmar / some Black Library event ? Can you also take a picture of the page that mentions the Varanguard and the Harbingers of Decay, please ? EXCELLENT

Great news ! I hope tomorrow we'll see : Cannon and crew (including ONE (1) City Duardin !) War Altar (but 1 model ?) Fusiliers (are they going to be a whole unit ?)

I got the book on Thursday. Talking about the fluff : read it in one go and loved it. BUT even if it's IMO a very nice book, I think it will have less impact on people than Broken Realm : Morathi (it also is rather shorter : 31 pages vs 91). It is worth reading the four WarCom Dawnbringers Chronicles before the book itself. A few interesting lore points, in no specific order (SPOILERS) : As an aside, I also got the General's Handbook, and it has pictures in the first pages with the new Intact Azyrite Building on a board with only Citadel Kits, so it's fair to say it is not scratbuilt.

Yeah having slept over last night discussions I can think of : AOS : Dawnbringer Book II ; some Cities of Sigmar Reveals that tie with Hammer & Bolter episode WHU : Skaven Warband, maybe Pestilens Warcry : Simplified Summer Starter Set reveal (leaked SCE vs Vampires) ; Kruleboyz Warband reveal / teaser (definitely their logo on the axe) TOW : 1 plastic midi revealed (maybe Liche Priest given the 3d render) HH : Knights or Mark III or whatever. Tonight is also the last of the "Herald / Book I"-related Dawnbringer Chronicle. The first supplement itself goes to preorder tomorrow before the Preview. I hope it contains Cities Of Sigmar units at least in the photography.