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Do we know the GenCon planning regarding GW seminars there ? When is the next show ? Hopefully Warcry today and Necromunda tomorrow.

We'll know quite soon I guess, as there is an S2D update in the next White Dwarf, and Bob from War Of Sigmar implied that the October Chaos Battletome would be Beast Of Chaos. And yet I still hope it's Nurgle.... (Either that or it will get FAQed when the SCE tome is released OR the Beasts of Chaos faction becomes - against all lore and logic - Destruction ). I'm sure that's the new Warpsmith. Exciting times ahead anyway

Another one ? Well, maybe as in intro to a new unit then, that could be interesting ! I's hard to see but the rim of the base doesn't appears to be black like the recent underworld warbands, so... Maybe a White Dwarf or event exclusive Hero for KruleboyZ ?

Everything here looks very plausible... Except the date (as early as 2022 ?) and the "core game" nature. But if by core game they mean things like LOTR or HH (i.e. huge battle systems handled by FW/GW, but aren't Specialist Games per se like BB or Necromunda), then okay. But as you say, a concurrent in terms of "flagshipness" and ressources, like AOS and 40k ? nah. EDIT : If the box is Kislev vs DAEMONS OF CHAOS .... .... I will be the happiest man on earth. Really.

They are clearly smaller and leaner than the current Star drakes, so no they aren't enormous. For the big boss of their races (Star drakes are only cousin I know), that's ridiculously small...

So that is all ? No more releases for KB and SCE* ? (* they got nice ranges but I expected... more).

Well... Aren't they a bit small ? And no riders ? I guess that's a bit sad, or strange ? Also, the Hexfire box confirms most of those 4chan rumors were - again - false... But then Grimdark live tends to back some of it (the BOC range update) ?? I'm really confused by those two news I confess

You're carving off WHAT ? ... Please remain at your current location, the Order of Azyr is on its way for a few.... hobby questions...

Well noice, I guess I missed this one. Was it "hinted" by likes and such from a certain TGA user, or does it comes from somewhere else ? If the former, it can go with Reimagined Chorf and Skavens Eshin in the still-rumors-but-100%-happening list (Also, given the KB and SCE Battletomes comes in August, I count the Kruleboys Wyvern and the Stormcast Drakes as confirmed and soon-to-be previewed...) EDIT : regarding TOW and HH : Runebrush from his interview / chat with the FW designers told us they weren't working with the AOS team, so don't count on cross compatibility between ranges (other than same size and same Fantasy setting in loose terms, like you can use 30k custodes with 40k custodes without too much problems). If FW launches a huge HH plastic range (see the recent leaks), and Marines being Marines, I can't see the HH brand dying out (as it is right now apparently). So TOW (and I clearly hope it's entirely / mainly in plastic) will have to fit alongside it (production wise) in a few years...

2024 for TOW seems totally fitting with the original schedule and COVID delays. Between the new Horus Heresy starter set and those awesome DKoK models, FW original ranges seems to more and more turn to plastic (which is great, and bode well for TOW). I wonder when the HH starter set will be released, I guess October 2021 like the other HH boxed sets ? And speaking of DKoK, and being a huge fan of Warcry, that other new starter set and updated rules previewed for Kill Team look bloody nice. I hope Warcry get a relaunch next summer too (one year after 3rd ed. AOS, just like nuKT comes one year after 9th ed. 40k). And going back to AOS rumors, I salute the game going over 6 years yesterday, and cannot say how excited I am for those two rumored releases we got hints of those past few days : Complete reimagined / AOSified Chaos Duardin range Skaven Clan Eshin release (which I thought was very plausible since AOS1 and the assassin in WHQ : Silver Tower) We're apparently in for a wild ride those next years !

@Nezzhil @Chikout @KingBrodd I HOPE Stormcast Eternals get both flying Draconic Cavalry AND and a new Dragon centerpiece (so yeah, two more units). We would then have a Thunderstrike overhaul for units in the four existing chambers : Knight-Arcanum for Sacrosanct ; Knight-Judicator and Gryph-hound, Stormstrike Chariot with Gryph-charger and Vigilors for Vanguard ; RUMORED Fyling cavalry and big dragon for Extremis ; the rest for Warriors Chambers ;

I'm sure it will be pure AOS. I mostly want to see the new SCE Drake ! We should get an article about the preview this afternoon anyway

I remember well the rumor hype going around Indomitus and the new Necron and Primaris ranges last year, with leaked pictures and arts "stolen" from the at-that-time new 40k website ... I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE MORE FOR SCE AND KRULEBOYZ, also give me drakes pls

I sincerely hope so ... SO MUCH That would confirm the Thunderstrike SCE are a reboot of first wave (Warriors and Extremis chambers)

It wasn't the same post, just the same-ish thread. The leaks about the release schedule is probably fake news, as is the description of the Sldugeraker and the Not!Wyvern for the Kruleboyz. Probably someone taking the opportunity given by the Core Book leaks to start a rumor / lie / whishlist ... __ The new Battlepack rules are really interesting ; I lost interest in AOS (ruleset) at the end of second edition and played only Warcry and Warhammer Quest. I really want to dive back in with 750 or 1000 points games now!

Some explanation on Sigvald and Gluttos' fates in the latest Short Story (still going, then!) : @KingBrodd aaandit answers your question in the rumor thread

I 100% agree with you (the Gutrippaz being close second). And I'd really like if the "wolf riders" hinted at by our reliable rumor mongers were of the same style. The current Underworld wolf grots unit is EXCELLENT, but without any design divergences from the WFB unit of old, and with The Old World coming in a few short years, we strongly need clear design differences between AOS and TOW-WFB units.

Apparently not : GW hinted at the lore being slightly reworked, and BR Kragnos confirmed again that the Age of Chaos lasted around 500 years (that was already known and confirmed) but specified that the time during the Realmgate Wars and the end of the Soul Wars (so including the Season Of War and the Time Of Tribulation) was like 100-150 years (see BR : Kragnos, page 4, about the Dirgehorn). We know Kragnos will come back with Kruleboyz forces to Thondia soon, and the "Cursed Skies + return of Grungni" plot line at the end of Broken Realms directly ties-in with the deployment of the Thuderstrikes Hosts SCE, so no big time skip here either.

You and @Baron Klatz are quite right and the Broken Realms narrative arc was really well handed IMO (by the four books, the free stories and the five BL shorts). And BR : Kragnos had great moments (tie-in with many plot lines, the persecutions of the Aelves, the "worldbuiling" around Kragnos and Ghur, the various strategies of Waaagh Gordrakk to attack Excelsis with false mercenaries, sea-borne ships and gargants, Troggoth human shields, etc.). But I can only concur with others in the thread that there was some weak spots in the story too, mainly how some characters' power level were handed. @The Brotherhood of Necros really nailed it for Kroak (I just re-read the 6th ed. Army Book chapter about The Fall ❤️ ). And even if having the focus shifts from Gods, Daemons, Monsters and "common" humans (the Ven Denst) was great, I think the Newborn as a formidable force of Chaos and inheritor of a god had an underserving story line... So I agree : where were Sigvald and the Palanquin guy ? What was the point of Hammergrod and Gordrakk defeat against Kragnos then some Liberators ? Kroak and Morathi-Khaine pulling a "Tzeentch Illusion to get Sigmar to throw Ghal Maraz in a Chaos Portal" trick to redirect Kragnos was cheap... (it was hinted in the Kroak reveal trailer, but still...). They could just have given a reason for Kroak NOT doing another spell to emprison him again (I guess Dracothion wasn't around this time ?). Anyway, I'm looking forward for the Era Of The Beasts fluff, and my main grip with BR : Kragnos only was : WHERE ARE THE YEARS OLD EXCELSIS ARTWORKS, GW ??

Well, I too want to see Shooting nerfed... But the layout redesign and the new options for 1. Army building in Matched Play, 2. more versatility for Heroes and 3. Monsters getting more dangerous are IMO very interesting changes. Only thing I'm really afraid of (implied in the interview) : the transformation of the A4 version of the General's Handbook into those small, fragile looking booklets Ala 40k Chapter Approved with swirly binding...

LOVE THAT DAWNBRINGER CRUSADE ART But aren't they more like events instead of new Factions ? IIRC the Indomitus Crusade in 40k isn't a Faction per se, it's just an historical event where you can mix all your Imperial forces, just like here we'll apparently see Stormcast, Duardin and Humans crusading together @Chikout the Order of Azyr being a subfaction of the Devoted is known fact since Grand Alliance : Order release in 2015. Given flagellant still has the Devoted keyword (like the Excelsior Warpriest had), and the new Priestess and Witch Hunters in Cursed City and BR : Kragnos belongs to the Order or the Sigmarite Faith, if GW updates Cities of Sigmar I guess it will be via the Devoted 😍 @CommissarRotke the War Altar are classic WFB arts, it's 40k that stole from us !

Well, a 1 hour 30 min long show ? Didn't expect that ! As @Overread said, the Kruleboyz Orruks are a fantastic design mix of Oldhammer Orcs, 80's LOTR artworks and modern AOS plastic technology. Glad they take the Greenskinz slot in the wider Orruk Warclans, they fit that niche very well with their new spin. I really like the Hobgobs look. Interesting racial feature (Orange Greenskinz ??) and great armor design. Another nod at Chaos Duardin makes me think they clearly will be the new Chaos army for 3rd Edition. Remember Chaos Duardin were present in many places in AOS 2 (Core Book with artwork of their naval fortress in Shyish and lore, Warcry with two models, STD and SOB Battletomes with lore, and BL background even before their squatting by FW). The Thunderstrike Stormcast are everything I wanted. Everything. As our Hype prophet hinted, I hope we'll get more redesigns (mostly new DRAKES!!!) this summer. And as @Chikout pointed out, I'm also very glad we'll apparently see new Azyrite Scenery that are NOT Age of Myths ruins (if those aren't 3d Printed like the OBR bone fortress.....). NB : the first SCE Vindictor shown isn't in Dominion, I guess he'll come with a White Dwarf or an ETB kit (sculpted base and all that).....

I 100% agree (even if, by an in-universe point of view, Daemons, Seraphon and KO should be strong - given their technology, magic, mobility and/or fire power. Alas for me the Legion of the First Prince isn't as strong as Daemons were in WFB 7th ed. ). I have to say I cannot wait to see the rest of the Thunderstrike Hosts range for SCE as well as their rules - I hope they play a bit like Adeptus Custodes, aka a truly elite army. .... Also, if the Thunderstrike Hosts really are a Warrior AND Extremis Chambers reboot (aka SCE Wave 1 redesign), I want to see new Drakes for our heavenly legions 😍

RE : https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/05/13/a-giant-bear-beats-up-daemons-in-total-war-warhammer-iiis-new-gameplay-trailer/ Some new map for TOW at the end of the article. (BTW I'm not convinced by the gameplay trailer.... As I said in my post above, doesn't look very conform to the fluff....)