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Huge thanks Dogmantra. A really clear explanation - just what I was looking for.👍👍😍

Hi all Can anyone explain (with pictures, ideally) how the objective capture and scoring works in this Battleplan? Asking for a friend. 😁

Thanks👍👍

Hi all. So, does this CA require a hero to be on the boards in order to use it?

This is factually incorrect. Model count is much lower on average than in previous years and editions.

Now I’m the opposite. I like the clinical approach. Different strokes…..

Apologies to all, but I just can’t understand how something like this gets people so heated. I can understand why it’s disappointing but really, the level of hyperbole is eyebrow raising. I think the word here is perspective. We have to spend some money to access some work that someone has produced. The fact that for the last six years we’ve not had to pay for it shouldn’t be a source of negativity. On the contrary, we should be appreciative that we had it for free for so long. Fair enough if you’ve got a political argument against capitalism, but I’d wager that the majority of GW’s customers aren’t either communists or anarchists, so trying to argue that stuff should be free glaringly looks like entitlement. But I may well be wrong.🤷🏼‍♂️

Surely you can just buy the battletome? I’ve always viewed the free content that GW provide as a bonus to their product rather than an essential part of the games they create. I guess it’s a question of perspective.

I’ve recently discovered wahpedia. A great resource for those don’t want to buy every single battletome.

You can only take 1 mount trait (unless able to take an extra enhancement)? I’ve missed this! Is this new?

Is there a rule that forbids Allied units to be part of a core battalion?

Are we still discussing rules? Or how to run a business?🤷🏼‍♂️😍😂

There is a proviso at the end of the sentence of 27.3.1 “unless otherwise stated”. Maybe that’s an out?🤷🏼‍♂️

Ah, understood. 👍

Is someone trying to argue that spells aren’t Enhancements? Seems clear to me that they can’t be used by Unique units.

Very excited. A new edition for me is always a great time. New things to try, new things to learn, and maybe this is the version of the game I might be good at!! And I’ve been playing since WFB 4th Ed.😍😍 The big question though is: How many pages will the rules be? 1.0 was 4, 2.0 was 16, 3.0…………?

Hey @Akylas I’ve magnetised the wrists on mine. Super easy job. He’s so beefy, I switch his weapons with those I had left over from my bullgors!

The best ones I’ve seen are those that Season of War use on their YouTube battle reports. They sell the on their website. https://seasonofwar.com/store/objective-markers

Maybe you’re right - but I’m finding in practice I need to slow things down! Game 5 is now just a repeat of Game 4! Clearly the aptitude of both teacher and student have a huge effect on the teach, and I’ve certainly erred on the side of caution, but here’s one of the challenges: Last night we played Game 4. Just by adding the Battle Trait rules for Orruk Warclans added a huge amount of new information for the new player. Two new Command Abilities, and two new abilities. Then there were new spells, and then Realm Rules. But it’s interesting hearing how others have tackled it.👍

So my feeling is that playing with the big stuff early on grabs attention and creates excitement. I wanted to allow the new player to be able literally get their hands on a Megaboss on Mawcrusha game one - even without traits it’s a great model with plenty of different rules to practice. Adding mount traits (and command traits and artefacts no doubt) are an easy addition and gel with the whole ‘adding layers’ approach I’ve taken, so shouldn’t be an issue for the new player.

Great points @Overread.

I've ticked off another hobby goal this year - getting a family member interested in AoS! So that got me thinking on how I should introduce the game. Fortunately, we live in the same house and there's not much open or available outside - so I had a captive student and plenty of time and so I've planned out one way to slowly teach someone brand new to wargaming and the Warhammer world and present it here for others to use (and add your own experiences). We are currently at Game 4! Player A is the teacher, Player B is the student. In this example Player A plays FEC, Player B plays Orruk Warclans Game 1introduces the phases and game mechanics. Measuring conventions, dice etiquette, pile-ins, Battleshock. Everything from the core rules is included up to page 8. Each army (already deployed) has a big monster, a unit of tough combat specialists, a unit of missile troops, something with random movement, a fast-hard-hitting unit and a wizard. Any info on a warscroll is ignored except for the characteristic wheel and the weapon profile. The idea is to provide Player B with an overall idea of the scope of the game. Player A goes first. The command abilities from the core rules are used. Two objectives are placed on the centre line each 18” from the short board edge with 1 point awarded or successful capture. Normal objective rules are used except models within 9” count rather than 6”. Game 2 introduces the rest of the warscroll information and warscroll abilities. Both players play an army consisting of just three different warscrolls. Player A fields a Varghulf, 2 Crypt Ghast Courtiers and 3 units of 30 Crypt Ghouls and Player B fields a Megaboss on Mawcrusha, a Warchanter and 3 units of 10 Ardboys. Once again, Player A deploys both armies and “Treasure Hunters” from the Open War cards is used. This game introduces a number of new ideas and rules including the role of standards and drummers, buffs and areas of effect, and wound allocation and model removal. Game 3 introduces terrain rules, army lists and triumphs and deployment. Everything else stays the same. The same armies are used, the same objective rules. Game 4 ramps things up a little. Player A’s army increases with the addition of an Archregent and a unit of 3 Horrors. Player B’s army increases with a Shaman and a Mangler Squig. Battle Traits are introduced (as is AoS Reminders) as well as spell lores. Battletomes are also introduced and so are Realms of Battle. Shifting Objectives is the battleplan that is used. Game 5 keeps the same armies but introduces Mount Traits and Faction rules (e.g. Grand Court, Warclans) which in turn introduces Artefacts and Command Traits. Blood and Glory is the battleplan that is used. This is where the Core Book is introduced to begin building up knowledge of the background. Game 6 adds no new rules, but a unit is added to the army list and a random Battleplan is chosen. Game 7 is when Endless Spells are introduced, with Player A adding Geminids to their army and Player B adding a Purple Sun to theirs. Magical Supremacy is the battleplan that is used. Game 8 is where things ramp up a bit more with Battalions being introduced. Armies are adjusted in order to meet the appropriate Battalion requirements. Artefacts of Power are introduced as are Warbeats. A random battleplan is used. Battlefield roles are introduced, as is Warscroll Builder. Game 9 is when Auxiliary Objectives are introduced. The game is now complete with all the rules being in play. Game 10 is when Player B writes their own list……………

Finished my army. 2,000pts of Khorne Ravagers (with some extra bits in case of fortunate rolls on the Eye of the Gods table!).

Ha! I cut up one of my daughter's 'scrunchies' and stuck that on the ends of a few of my grot spears whilst I waited for my purchases to arrive.

Love the idea of an all cavalry list (I used to field an all Orc & Goblin cavalry list in WFB!) and when I was looking at a theme for my new S2D army I looked at the Ruinbringer Warband and thought - that's for me! Sadly, in order to get the most use out of the Ravager's Battle Trait, I've had to include a couple of foot heroes (and Be'Lakor because he's ace - really looking forward to getting the new model!). I too have gone down the Ravagers route for my list - I've been building and painting it since last September and have just the one unit to finish! Allegiance: Slaves to Darkness - Damned Legion: Ravagers LEADERS Be'Lakor (240) - Spell: Whispers of Chaos Derik Shoeslicer (230) Chaos Lord on Karkadrak - General - Command Trait: Flames of Spite - Artefact: Cloak of the Relentless Conqueror - Mark of Chaos: Khorne Goredun Henderson (110) Chaos Lord - Reaperblade & Daemonbound Steel - Mark of Chaos: Khorne - Ravagers Command Trait: Eternal Vendetta Nigl the Counter (170) Chaos Lord on Daemonic Mount - Artefact: Mark of the High-favoured - Mark of Chaos: Khorne - Ravagers Command Trait: Favoured of the Pantheon C'evin Oncenamed (170) Chaos Lord on Daemonic Mount - Mark of Chaos: Khorne - Ravagers Command Trait: Master of Deception The Fifth (110) Chaos Sorcerer Lord - Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch - Spell: Mask of Darkness - Ravagers Command Trait: Bolstered by Hate UNITS 5 x Chaos Knights (160) - Ensorcelled Weapons - Mark of Chaos: Khorne 5 x Chaos Knights (160) - Ensorcelled Weapons - Mark of Chaos: Khorne 5 x Chaos Knights (160) - Ensorcelled Weapons - Mark of Chaos: Khorne 5 x Chaos Knights (160) - Ensorcelled Weapons - Mark of Chaos: Khorne 5 x Chaos Knights (160) - Ensorcelled Weapons - Mark of Chaos: Khorne BATTALIONS Ruinbringer Warband (140) 1970pts My plan for this army is to try and get as many opportunities to roll on the Eye of the Gods Table! I've painted up a couple of Daemon Princes and a couple of Spawns in anticipation!