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What size ? I’m lacking a point of reference. Was it max size with 30 libs ? If so it’s quite respectable .

Damage is mediocre. For 560 points. It’s not a monster killer. But facing anything other then the big monsters it’s overperforming. It has a great presence, with the random rain of stars snipe and tail / jaws taking out units. -1 / +1 to spell casting templar axe should be pretty decent at that. Usually however you just attack last with your drake to prevent pile into cohesion. I like the fact that you can always elect to go last with it, since it won’t take damage. Allowing your fulminators or w/e to fight first without much backlash. What’s a VW ?

Yes it does

Liberators x 2 and judicator

Sooo the stardrake is amazing. I recently played in Warhammerfest throne of skulls with a stardrake list and I gotta say.. that thing is an absolute monster in the new edition. I used him with Ignax scales and staunch defender and slapped a warding lantern on top of it.. the thing would not die. Here are a few examples. Singlehandled it tanked 20 sequistors. 10 evocators and 4 fulminators. Before my opponent realized that it’s futile and teleported away his fulminators. At that point it had already decimated the sequistors and was on its way to cleaning up the evocators. New edition it’s been buffed in slight ways that makes a huge impact. Carnaverous jaws can eat a units cohesion. Breaking it forcing a lot of damage. The tail attack hits everything within 3 inches every time it attacks. And command ability no longer has a range. i just slapped onwards to glory on it and used a command ability to run 18 inches. With fly and that movement you can tie up a lot of things first turn. ( I played legion of azghor and tied up 5 units first turn ) its just amazing, but a large investment !

In general wizards have seen a price increase due to being designed in tandem with malign sorcery and realm spells, having access to a plethora of spells and dispell definitely warrants af higher cost. I’m attending war fest Europe and we’ve been issued a notice that realmscape features and realm spells (including malign sorcery) will be in play as suggested by the developers. On a side note Playing with all the optional rules adds a framework for army building that rewards versatility, and punishes “one trick” or spam lists, whilst supplying your games with more variety. I’m definitely a fan. On first glance it seems horrible to apply these random effects to our neatly organized 2k frame, some of the effects completely shut down shooting lists. (Ulgu restrictions to 6inches ) assuming you randomize your realm and realmscape features you still only end up with a 1 in 48 chance of the game punishing you severely. Most of the other effects have a medium impact in the game mostly in a cool or interesting way. Versatility is the strength of the Stormcast. And playing with realms and all the optional rules will benefit our play style.

Seems Nice, maybe a azyros for the rerolls. And / Castellant to buff sequistors / Raptors. Raptors are very squishy by default, tanking Them up is nesssacary i Think

So now that Lens of refraction is useless, what are our options now ? I like the jade diadem, makes you Heal Wounds on a 6+ on my usual setup a stardrake wound be Nigh unkillable, ( Lord Castellant Buff and staunch.) healing Wounds on a 4+ and 2 Wounds on 5+ seems legit

Anyone here participating in the warhammerfest Europe Throne of skulls ?

Note that fulminators receive an extra +1 To Their saves in shooting phase, highly usefull now that you can force shooting units on them by charging them. The mortal wounds / stun, by concussors is too unreliable, and you need a somewhat large unit in order to lockdown hordes. my guess is that celestial vindicators is a good shell for concussors, with rerolls to hit and extra attacks. While fulminators are almost always usefull. Unit size is more flexible, and even units of 2 will pack a punch.

Tested the drakesworn templar as a cestial vindicator general, he is very very squishy. He Needs more protection then the lantern.

Exactly. I get the opportunity to test it out in a few days, it will be glorious.

Gotta say, celestial vindicators are looking mighty fine, reroll 1 on charge and extra attacks are welcome in any dractohian list, the horrible artifact and command trait is problably most effective on a drakesworn Templar with arc hammer, effectively doubling The number of attacks (2-4) making hitrolls of 6 deal 4! Damage.! Ouch. Just bank on rolling 6 to hit

I'm headed to a tourney using the new GHB2018 and i could use some Critique, ive created 2 lists and i need your help deciding. INC spam. 560 Lord celestant on stardrake General staunch defender, armor of silvered sigmarite 100 Lord Castellent 100 knight heraldor 140 knight incantor 100 lord relictor Lightning Chariot *240 Fulminator *240 Fulminator 160 Judicator 160 Judicator 100 liberator 40 Chronomatic Cogs 1940, 2 Command points. *(either 2x2 Units or 1x4) Thoughts: Core is a Les martin build with added speed and magic for some very fast fuliminator / stardrake action with Cogs and command ability they are "running" 18' and a 2d6+2 charge distance. Lightning chariot + charge is a 50% success. Core of slow moving troops is helped with added speed (+2) and guard the heroes for the look out sir. Stardrake helps spellcasting. Alternative 460 Drakesworn Templar Armor of silvered sigmarite, Stormlance. 100 Castellent 100 Heraldor 240 Knight arcanum General, Staunch Defender. 120 Lord Veritant, Lightning Chariot. 260 concussors 260 concussors 160 Judicators 120 Sequistors 120 Sequistors 40 Chronomatic cogs. 1980 1 Command point. Thoughts, Same as above, with less protection but more mortal wound output, you have a stronger batteline for objetive holding, internal synergies with the concussors and the Drakesworn templar, Making the lightning stun activate on a 5+, should be effective at locking down hordes. Knight arcanum has the movement to skirt around the battlefield, lending aid to the dracoths / templar. Lord Veritant adds dispell and a "free" Gryph hound for added Presence. ' Stardrake helps Knight arcanum reaching the improved versions of his spell. Any suggestions are welcome.

I like your Color choice. Makes them very easy to look at!

Fantastic looking models. Makes me regret painting hammers of sigmar :^( May i ask how you did the armor?