Kaleb Daark

I suppose one could argue that Astragoth is still powerful enough to demand the tithe of bodies and reinforcements from whatever outpost or penal colony he chooses, hence the Legion elements being present ?

sir needs to cast his mind back to Mad Mullah Aklan'ds death commandos for that answer. This was the only araby model set ever really fleshed out. Tony Ackland was one of the kingpins of citadel miniatures back in the day and this was a nod to him back when citadel had a wry sense of humour, and what you could get away with in satire was very different to what would be acceptable now. http://www.solegends.com/citrr/1rr06mullahs/index.htm

Well, what can I say... I’m glad we got that sorted. 🙄

See, now I’ve not got a problem with merging. I say this on the basis that I’d rather see merging than obsolescence due to lack of imagination as to where to take them next because they’ve been pigeon holed to early- its what happened to my beloved brets where by the end of 5th edition fantasy the ideas factory had run dry. You also bring another important point to the fore though, and its something that makes my gears grind. Every battletome is shall we say a bit thin. Thin on lore and stories and content. Here’s a description and a timeline and some warscrolls, there ya go. Ive said it before and in broken record fashion I’ll say it again- give me a big fat lore rich coffee table tome like the tamurkhan or the horus heresy black books and leave the warscrolls to the online realm where they can be updated in realtime if necessary and available for free like they used to be. I’d love to see a children of the beard or whatever you want to call them fat book telling me about all of them and how they relate to each other. the book would let you do everything the current books do and add some more sauce to those factions that in reality have very little to pad them out. I mean I’d love to have my iron breakers and iton drakes transported into battle by a kharadron skyship. why should the old world dwarves be disposessed and only part of cities ironweld aresnals when they could be part of a dwarven machine that’s forgotten the old embers of a dying race and instead looks forward to pioneering a new age of discovery and optimism intent on liberating and restoring their old dwarf holds. And this is AoS, I imagine a dwarf hold which at its peak is a kharadron skyport, and in its depths the magma furnaces are controlled by the mighty fyreslayers and the bit in the middle at ground level so to speak is where the elder kin keep the ancient lore and run the day to day and provide a vanguard bulwark. Clumsily explained but you get the gist. Leave the elf hating dying race to the past, these new mortal realms dwarves know that they can lean on their tradition while looking outward and with a fire in their belly as they realise that all three factions can cooperate in the retaking of huge ancient holds and reignite ancient long cold furnaces and skyshipyards. And what of the traditional dwarfs? simples- they're the rune sons, the light to the dark mirror that is the chaos dwarfs. The makers if exquisite armour, the strikers of mighty runes that can make the rock statues wake and defend the hold, crafting the magic of the realms by channeling it through weapons and armour and constructs ad opposed to blasting lightening from their fingertips. They don’t hate magic, they just know that they struggle to channel it as easily as other races but for sure they can still grab it and forge it in a manner that is useable to them as easily as they can trap a soul of lightening into some golden armour. They don't hate elves, they just know them too well to trust them and know they're far better than anything with pointy ears. anyway… I’ll belt up now. carry on…

That would make me just so happy… a khornate minotaur lord that lets you take minotaurs as battleline in a blades army. I mean they could even call him taurox if they got really stuck.

That and heavy cav armies just look the shizzle. now all I need is to dream up a nice alternative conversion for the skullcannon instead of the khorne county chopper.

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Absolutely

Thats what I was told, a multipart khorgorath. Whether that’s still on the cards though god knows, and I do stress that particular one had been doing the rounds for dome years so keep your salt shovel close! Admittedly, you can take khorgorath in multiples but you cant buy it outside of the box set so its always been very incongruous. as for the box, that was the models from the original aos box, so you had khorgos Khul / mighty lord if khorne with hound : the monopose khorgorath and the bloodsecrator and mr whippy. The reavers and blood warriors are the usual. I can’t imagine that they’d withdraw khul, whippy and the bloodsecrator without some form of replacement or single blisters, so it would be daft to remove that box from sale. well you’d like to hope not anyway.

They actually did have a separate multi part khorgorath kit done years ago as far back ad aos 1. This might be the chance to release it. khornegors would also be very cool, but as we know, what we want and what we get will be very different.. I’m only going to ask for one thing… oh dear god please don’t give me yet another bunch of marauders in party frocks… sorry cultists, or a plastic valkia unless shes been exalted big modeldom like sigvald was, and in so doing make her influence khornewide as opposed to being a nanny for said marauders in party frocks. As an utter khornehead I’m justifiably nervous about the release. As for Khul, the secrator and mr whippy, separates are fine by me, or alternatively a rethink on those models would be welcome in so far as the original ones can become the unique bloodbound characters that they started out as. however everything I’ve said you can ignore as i like my khorne very hitty and very scary- given their sheer size and power I’d not be giving them a conditional to getting a charge off attack, id be making them one of thise armies that you pray you can thin them out enough before they hit you as that hit is always going hurt… alot. my khorne aren’t bloodthirsty loons, they’re martial, accurate, mercilessly efficient sledgehammer hard rapier accurate murderers. I’d not give them allies as anyone with a brain would never ally with them as they know that they’d be next after the battle was over, but I’d make them one of the only armies that could kill its own units in order to gain advantage if it wanted to. anyway… I’ll clam up and stop gassing and dust off my brushes and painting thread, as however dissatisfying the book may be, they’re ma boys. oh and lord on dragon… please…. Pretty please…

Im going back way before dogs of war, back to 1st and second ed fantasy battle. ….but yea what you said.

Totally agree. the old regiments of renowned used to have unique models with a nice back story. as you say, nothing special about these other than to flog some existing stuff. Now a modern take on mordini’s doomed legion, the knights of origo or the black mountain boys etc, that would be something.

well, this thread has been very interesting. Reading all your insights has hopefully stirred some motivation in me, but for some time life has taken some turns for me that have made my mind just seem like a fog at the best of times and motivation just seems the most distant thing on my mind. here's what I've got that is still boxed and unmade and still in celophane. As you can appreciate, I'm hoping for some major enthusiasm injection soon as I still find myself wanting and buying. The shocking thing is that I've got warscroll cards and things from previous editions that are still in their celophane and unopened, and are now obsolete!

You wait till the mega gargant sun shelter comes out, it’ll have it’s own terrain board segment.

As much as I love my chaos, those grave guard look amazing.

chaos dwarf burn berry tree. Part of the upcoming furnace garden terrain feature.

I mean I’m not asking a lot, just give me my khorne dragon in plastic or at least a third run on him. Im happy for tzeentch to have the two headed turned inside out dragon, I am nothing if not generous.. just not granpappy stinky generous is all.

Its to distract you from realising that gw still cant model feet to save their lives. the mount’s feet look as awkward as the original storm cast star drake thingy. other than that I’m loving the belakor green kaahhniggit. Dont get me wrong, I’m buying him whatever as you cant have nearly 10k of slaves from across a decade or two and not have this dude.

Nope. The plastic chaos lord on dragon hasn’t arrived. Very upsetting, very sad, very oh dear. much upset and missed opportunity sat right there.

I'll take that. I'll take two in fact, the new slaves stuff looks really good. I'm also very much liking the Votaan Grimnyr - so much Nick Lund vibes about it, and that can only be a good thing. And nice to see that Khorne has bagged King Brodd to do his work even if he doesn't realise it.

Please tell me the one in the middle is a chaos dwarf!

Scroll bearer and warrior one are both one of the original chaos familiars you once used to get. nice to see them back, ill definitely be fetting that model

Or just redo and update the marienberg landship in plastic, in fact you could probably cobble one together from an arkonaut ship

Yes to an extent, but sales spoke volumes. don’t forget that they said that anything that didn’t sell wouldn’t be supported or carried forward. For TK’s Its as simple as the usual story of being bent as hell when they came Out and everyone played them, and so next edition they got so nerfed that nobody looked at them anymore. 4+ years of no sales of note and the writing was on the wall. Same as brets. No update in any form since 5th edition- 12 years of nothing, niet, nada. nobody wanted to touch a one trick pony army, especially one who’s one trick had had its day in 5th and was already dead in 6th. Couple that with no rules writer to have the imagination to move them forward past the king arthur / norman britain trope and once again, the writing was on the wall and the death a slow and painful one. ultimately its there to make money. If it doesn’t pay its way its gone.

Wow.. judging from the above posts it really is khorne day tomorrow.