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Can somebody please explain to me how to use Warsong Revenant? I've just painted my model and although it's gorgeous I'm not convinced if he is worth his points.

Si, are we overall happy with the changes? On the con side I see my Alarielle (over 800 points... really?) and Treelord Ancient alongside with Kurnoth Hubters with bows. I wonder if I will ever field them again? On the bright side there's Durthu, melee KH, tree and spite-revenants, new Wyldwoods, other heroes... Mostly everything. I really want to try out Harvestboon with Durthu, at least 3x3 KH and two dragonflies behind them. Just ordered 2 of those flying things.

I disagree that tree-revenants extra sounds doesn't change their usefulness. It does, a lot. I remember how I argued with some of you about how they needed a boost. Now they did and they are much better both as a chaff and objective holders. 2 wounds double the chance of survival. If they can tie an enemy for one extra turn because he damaged them 9 wounds or they can withstand a missle attack while holding an objective it was well worth it. It's sad Ancient Treelord will stand on the shelf for another three years but thankfully we have many hero options. It seems silly he's at almost the same price as Durthu is. I'm not sure if I would take him even at his old price when Lady of the Vines is in the roster. Alarielle's resurrection is a fine addon. Do you think she's worth her price? And what about KH with bows? How do they compare to Gossamid Archers? Any new info on endless spells? I'm not sure how I feel about this battletome. Everything seems a bit better but also many units suffer from a price hike. They fixed KH with bows Huntmaster. He has an extra attack with the bow now.

More simple but less diverse. Perhaps the biggest strength of AoS is how armies play different from each other.

No need to be sad. Now you have an excuse to buy even more minis.

I don't mind a switch from monsters to infantry. I already knew a year ago that they would do exactly that. It pushes people to buy new models. Almost all of the battle tactics benefited when accomplished by monsters. Now new battle tactics will favor these veterans. In a year it will be heroes or wizards or whatever to make people buy additional models. I'm not angry because of that. It keeps the game fresh and I don't care about the tournament meta.

I really don't like the direction GW took with faction dice. They used to be original. Leafs, waves, bones instead of dots. Were they harder to read? Sure but were a lot more fun. Now they just make one side of the dice different, with a faction symbol. I used to collect most of those "original" dice and have more than 10 Warhammer sets of them for multiple factions. Wish they returned to what they did in the past.

I really like your ideas! Thank you for the time you dedicated to answer my question! I certainly will try the exact list (with guardian of souls instead of knight I think). I'm not sure if soulsnare shackles aren't a bit of a d**k move here but since my friend with giants crushed me so hard last time maybe it will even the scales. Running 30 chainrasps seems interesting. They should buy me enough time to take his giants one by one with 20 bladegheists. I will miss my Black Coach but need to check this strategy you wrote of. How do you use spirit hosts? In front of heroes charging enemy units? Or just staying behind to work as a bodyguard for important heroes?

Thanks for this support. I started thinking about running something bigger with 20 models but still was afraid to fail a charge with that unit. You surprised me with the second part (either Olynder or Coach) but you might be right. Olynder played really well in both of my games with the new battletome. My first game was against Fyreslayers btw and it went pretty well. Dwarfs weren't able to finish off my units thanks to Olynder/ GoS/ Torment and Soul Cage combined with Fight Last Effect of Waves of Terror was devastating for his troops. We ended with a draw just because the shop was closing but I'm pretty sure I would have won if we played full 5 rounds.

I used Warscroll Builder but indeed new battletome says 160! Either it's a mistake in the WB or they've already updated their cost.

Allegiance: Nighthaunt - Procession: Emerald Host - Grand Strategy: - Triumphs: Leaders Lady Olynder, Mortarch of Grief (340) - Lore of the Underworlds: Soul Cage Krulghast Cruciator (150) - General - Command Trait: Hatred of the Living - Artefact: Pendant of the Fell Wind Guardian of Souls (150) Spirit Torment (115) - Artefact: Lightshard of the Harvest Moon Battleline 10 x Chainrasps (110) 10 x Chainrasps (110) 10 x Grimghast Reapers (165) Units 10 x Bladegheist Revenants (175) 10 x Bladegheist Revenants (175) 2 x Chainghasts (95) Behemoths Black Coach (335) Endless Spells & Invocations Chronomantic Cogs (45) Total: 1965 / 2000 Reinforced Units: 0 / 4 Allies: 0 / 400 Wounds: 89 Drops: 11 It was sth like this. He did bring 3 small and 3 large gargants. First turn he moved into the objectives. In my turn I charged 3 small ones with reapers and 10 bladegheists. This and shooting killed them off. Round 2 it was turn 1 for gargants again. He basically charged both my bladegheists and reapers with his mega-gargants. That killed them off and the game was set. What else do I have? Reikenor, executioner , 20 more rasps, second spirit torment and Knight on a horse. No spirit hosts (which I want to buy soon). Banahees and harridans still in the box to be assembled.

How do you deal with Giants? I had a game against them and my army was crushed completely. He went first claiming 3 objectives. In my turn I managed to kill 3 man eaters and did basically nothing to his mega-gargants but do did he to my units. He got first again in the second battle round and destroyed 3 out of 4 of my units (not counting heroes and black coach). Basically each time his gargant attacked it was one unit dead on my side. The game was set. I could do nothing at this point. His gargants were all close to max health.

Incredible. Actually a very good unit for Sylvaneth.

I was more impressed with the previous show to be honest when it comes to new minis. 40k will get some disgusting and impressive at the same time for chaos. Votan look far worse than Kharadron Overlords. I mean, they could be anything. Not just dwarfs. Not enough dwarf ornaments, beards and whatever. The Necromunda team ensures me I'll never enter this game. As for the AoS. Deathmaster is a cool mini and at the same time it was the most disappointing reveal of the show. It's been 7 years since the release of AoS. In these 7 years Skaven haven't received any new troops, machines or monsters. They got what? 4 heroes on foot? I don't get it. Skaven are GW's original design and are by far the most neglected army up to date. As if GW was ashamed of them. They already should have half of their range updated. Sylvaneth. My very first army I raised to 2000 points few years back. Now I have more than 3000 points and have fully painted every Sylvaneth unit available to them. Am I satisfied with the reveals? Sure I am! Each and every mini looks cool and will bring something interesting into the army. Half-tree half-elf riding a dragonfly? I'll take several boxes of these. One thing I really expect is the Wildwood rules to be finally fixed. One of the presenters told that Sylvaneth haven't been good in tournaments and this is about to change. I'll believe it when I see it. As for the other reveals, well nothing special in particular. Good show but nothing more.

Great show. 8/10 New Chaos Knights look absolutely awesome. Flea Riders close after. New Nighthaunt hero is a creative design which I will welcome on my shelf. Underworlds warband is just ok as nothing stands out really. Not so keen on the terrain. It seems as if someone gathered random pieces together.

Unless Nighthaunt have a global MW on 6 trait I don't think crossbows will be worth the trouble. Maybe there will be a Procession that favors them somehow. However it's usually better to take an already good unit and buff it further than take trash and hope they will become average.

Probably now was the best opportunity to reveal their synergies. To hype people for the DoK vs Nighthaunt box. I have over 2,5 k points of Nighthaunt and was about to buy that box. I'm not so sure anymore if the "star" unit of this box is trash.

This Hunter Prime fix should really be temporary. Overpowered units should have their scrolls fixed or points in worst case. Interesting mechanic but it shouldn't be set in stone. Internal balance within battletome is as important as external compared to other battletomes.

Any idea why is Sylvaneth in the Prime Hunters category? People used to say it was in good position and not a low tier army. 😉 Jokes aside, it is a good sign that GW is aware of the problem and maybe, just maybe, the next battletome will be a good one.

How is it going? Bad and it's getting worse. Last year I bought DoK and Soulblight Gravelords. Both untouched. This year I started Tau, Aeldari and Adeptus Mechanicus. I have some progress with Tau though.

Go to a tournament and show them how to play. "Sylvaneth players" must be missing something you know. Battletome Win Rates: 4th from the bottom 👏 5-0’s & 4-1’s: Sylvaneth even not on the list. 👏 I'm a Sylvaneth player for a long time. I am able to win many match ups and I really like the army. Yet it is absolutely clear that Sylvaneth struggle at tournaments. It's just a fact. Some buffs need to be done. Not making Sylvaneth an overpowered army. Just bring them up a bit to be strong mid-tier at least. Source: https://woehammer.com/2022/03/03/aos-stats-for-february/

I've been successful with my Sylvaneth for most of the time. I also admit they've been in worse conditions than they are now. But it mostly comes due to my experience with them when I beat my opponents playing better armies. Certainly I don't want Sylvaneth to be broken good, like Slaanesh or DoK were. Just want them to work fine. To have their points right. All clearly know some armies get better and some get worse rules. So far Sylvaneth received rather the latter. Perhaps it might be shifted with just a change to Wyldwoods. I don't know. What I know however is that Sylvaneth players really deserve a good battletome.

Can i ask how Lumineth Alarith build works in 3.0 with all the faq, erratas etc.?

Yeah, of course. I even would not want Sylvaneth to become broken good as some armies were in the past (DoK with witches, Kharadron with shooting fest, Slaanesh with spamming, etc.). Just be payable enough to give pleasure.

Oh c'mon. If the power level stays the same I won't even bother buying new book. I'm pretty tired of Sylvaneth being in the bottom 5 armies all the time. GW showed it can put some effort if it wants to. I'm thinking Tau. In the previous edition it was the worst faction in most rankings. Now it hits the top. Time they did the same with Sylvaneth, Gloomspite, Nighthaunt and Chaos mortals armies.