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Going to join a Path to Glory group with Ogors, with the other players having VERY competitive lists (SBGL, Legion, Troggoth Gitz and Kurnoth Sylvaneth). I have a lot of available models, but not many Beastclaw. What do you think should be a sufficiently good 600 pt starting list? Any advice to make my games less frustrating is super welcome! Here are my models, with a few sample pics attached: Tyrant (2) Slaughtermaster Butcher Hunter with 2 Frostsabres Huskard on Thundertusk Mournfang (8) Gluttons (6) Ironguts (8) Yhetees (3) Gnoblars (40) Gorger Leadbelchers (4) Great Mawpot

I'm hoping for a favorable deployment and either an early double turn or a normal move turn 1 and run+charge turn 2. In case I get pewed at turn 1, I do have the Mawpot to try to get some wounds back via the HoTT. 1k games are still on a 44x60 table which indeed does not favor my chances to charge in fast. It's a make it or break it kind of deal! So basically It would be better if I use my Leadbelcher and the smaller Mournfang unit as anvil in the center. The large Mournfang unit charges asap (again, if everything goes well deployment and initiative wise) and HoTT stays right behind them (mainly to make sure they can Rip n Tear) to be kept as a last resort only charger. I was thinking to sort of try to rush both flanks but you're right that it's unlikely to succeed with such low body count, so my best chance would probably be try to succeed with charging on one flank and possibly smash through from there. Thanks for the advise, very helpful! My next list will be a Bloodgullet list with Butcher, Slaughtermaster and a greasy Gluttons anvil, but I really want to play first with these Beastclaw I recently finished painting... such cool looking minis.

I'm going to bring my Ogors for a 1000pt. gaming night in a few days and wanted to hear your thoughts on this list: Allegiance: Ogor Mawtribes- Tribe: ThunderbelliesLeadersHuskard on Thundertusk (335)*- General- Artefact: Shatterstone - Command Trait: Storm Chaser - Mount Trait: Fleshgreed - Prayers: Keening Gale - Blood VultureBattleline4 x Mournfang Pack (320)* - Culling Clubs or Prey Hackers 2 x Mournfang Pack (160)* - Gargant Hackers Other 4 x Leadbelcher (180)*Battalions*Battle RegimentEndless Spells / Terrain / TriumphGreat Mawpot InspiredTotal: 995 / 1000Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 64 The idea would be to keep the Huskard and Leadbelcher in the center as anvil and take advantage of Thunderbellies trait to run & charge from flanks with the Mournfang. Not very competitive, just for fun, but what do you think? My main doubts would be the triumph, the ideal deployment or which weapon to equip the Huskard with... I'll send pics and a recap! Still not sure about opponent, maybe Stormcast

Thanks for the reply! I may have already heard that 10-15 years ago... Whenever it may happen, let's hope they'll at least keep the print option available!

Do you think White Dwarf will go digital only in the near future? Heard GW tried that before but then moved back to print... I'm an avid fan of the magazine but only read it in print because even with the best tablet (anyone still uses those?) or monitor, the digital version would still be a worse experience IMO. Honestly I love bringing a copy or 2 along when traveling and reading it in the nature or at the beach and such. If it would go only digital it'd be quite sad for me, I'd probably stop reading it every month as I currently do. As a WH+ subscriber (no AoS content sucks, boooooo, I know) I have not consulted much in the Vault for the same reason: despite the amazing trove of stuff they upload there, I find looking at beautifully painted miniatures and art much nicer on print. Also a lot of people (me included) spend already a lot of time in front of monitors for work or study ... I get watching videos and animations, but reading whole books, magazines and such would take too much on-screen time IMO.

I came up with a couple 750 points unconventional lists: For this one Bloodgullet's command abilites wouldn't be usable as I have no Gluttons, so I'm doubting if I should just go for no allegiance and get some good artefacts/traits instead. Slaughtermaster (140) 4 Ironguts (245) Icebrow Hunter (125) Gorger (80) 2 Mournfang Pack (160) 750 points total or Meatfist Allegiance Tyrant (160) 6 Gluttons (260) 4 Ironguts (245) Gorger (80) 745 total so I would probably get a Triumph. Endless Spells are useful and I'll definitely get them eventually, which will allow me to make more versatile lists ... but I already have all these models painted, so definitely eager to make some ready-to-play lists. I also have other painted units (Leadbelchers and Yhetees to name a few) but I feel the points increase makes smaller games a bit tighter..?

Hey everyone, I came up with this 745 points Gutbusters Battle Regiment idea for smaller games: Slaughtermaster (140) Butcher (135) 9 Gluttons (390) Gorger (80) I'm having a hard time figuring out a full 750 Gutbusters combination with the new points, do you have any? Only managed to make lists around 740. Also, do I get any benefit for having a list below minimum required points in the new edition?

Ultimately I would like to create a fun-to-play Lumineth list that can also get me a good win-lose ratio more in local than in international context atm... not looking to join the national team just yet! Though "local" doesn't mean easy at all, I'm based in a big city where there are lots of very skilled and experienced players in pretty much all clubs and stores (some of them actually do play in national/competitive teams). That's why I'd like to start by building something that can be dangerous in most scenarios from the get go while I get my very rusty wargaming skills back in shape and figure out what type of Lumineth force I feel more comfortable around. At the same time, I really, really would love to field a fantastic and diverse AoS army from a visual perspective. Don't get me wrong, I love Sentinels as models ... though 40+ of them may look a bit, let's say, old fashioned? I'll always have in my heart regiments, square bases and regiment bases but ... yeah, I'll probably get back to that once and if Old World will really be "back". You're totally right that AoS 3.0 is right around the corner, so I will definitely just wait and see how the game evolves before actually buying new units. But again thanks very much for the enlightenment (he-hem) on the current Lumineth state of things ^^ I currently own: - Launch Box models - Cathallar - 10 Sentinels - 1 Ballista (🙄) - 5 Bladelords (whooops 🙄🙄 oh well they'll look cool in a glass display and in casual games for sure!)

Thank you! I am definitely going to include more endless spells; not looking into aelementiri based lists yet. So if I would want to have a good chance to win games there seems to be no alternative then having as many Wardens/Sentinels as possible atm. Pity to ditch the bladerlords host (perhaps just 1 babysitting unit of 5...) because they and the ballista really look great to me. Are there no competitive lists that include Light of Eltharion?

Hi everyone, I would appreciate your opinion and advice around a 2000 points list composed by these units: Light of Eltharion Cathallar Calligrave 3 Ballistas 10 Sentinels 5 Windchargers 10 Wardens 5 Dawnriders 5 Dawnriders 5 Bladelords 5 Bladelords Sharshard Battery Battalion Bladelord Host Battalion Dawnrider Lance Battalion Floating shrine terrain The generic idea that I think would make for fun games would be: - Have the Ballistas taking out elite/max sized units/Leaders/tanks from afar with support from the Sentinels - Windcharges would zigzag around peppering units, luring them into getting close to/charge defense lines; they would retreat closer to Ballistas and Sentinels in case of ambush units and such - Wardens, Bladelords and Eltharion act as defense lines, with Dawnriders flanking and potentially also retreating in case anyone gets too close to Ballistas and Sentinels - Scinaris stay close to Bladelords and do what they do best; one of them is also chilling in a Shrine What mainly concerns me as a tactical newbie is: 1) What would be the most effective Nation for this list? 2) If I should actually go for no Nation, what Artifacts, Traits, etc. set up would you recommend? 3) Could this list be sufficiently competitive or is it just (or even barely sufficient) for casual games? 4) Which (limited) units/battalions could I replace to make this more competitive but keeping the same strategy conceptually? I really like the aesthetic of the Bladelords and the Ballistas models in particular, that's why I would really love to have a list with lots of them, that can still be competitive. That's also why I would like to avoid the usual 40-80 Sentinels and Wardens; though I know that they are far more convenient, safe and effective strategically speaking. Thank you for your thoughts!