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I agree, we should send it out at the very beginning of May. Anything beyond that is a waste of survey. In truth, I think that whoever wanted to take a survey, probably has already done that. Now, there is good possibility that some people take the survey and simply troll us. I did saw someone write something like that on /tg/, so maybe a few more days and close it.

@Enoby Honestly, we need to see what BR: Kragnos will bring to us, from rules for the Twins, to I hope new sub-factions. Then when we know that, if can start to predict things. Also, I would suggest that you close the poll at the end of the month. We need that data properly analyzed and sent to GW.

@Yoid Very good observation, we might actually get some new Daemons. Perhaps a new Herald or something completely different? The more I look at Twins, the more I love them, both embody a beautiful duality of Slaanesh. From our private conversation, the Twins seem like magnificent models for you and your girlfriend.

Some factions like Skaven are honestly in a dire need of massive update.

Agreed with all but the Circle Orboros, as they are the exception. If you read the various lore books Privateer Press published, they are the penultimate embodiment of "Green Mother Earth...red in tooth and claw".

Indeed, the Kurnoth slain by legions of Nurgle was a copy of the original Kurnoth.

@Nezzhil Okay, so what do you think Kragnos is? Ogroid? Godbeast? Unknown species?

Also, are BoC extinct and gone? Nope. Races that make up Grand Alliance Destruction are not gone either.

Ghur was originally a Realm ruled by proud hunter kings and beast lords before Orruks came, this is canon. Written in Orruk battletome. So Kragnos could be refering to those people who once ruled Ghur, these hunter kings and beast lords. Maybe he was their king? Also, Alarielle imprisoned Kurnoth, flayed him alive and tore out his heart. Read the Dark Harvest.

KoS molds have probably returned investment and profit at this point, thus we get the Twins as new named Keepers.

Emerald would fit the whole nature vibe. Red mane is seen in ALL members of Skaeth Wild Hunt. I think that image is, in fact, a very good confirmation that we are getting a Kurnothi faction. Awesome!

Absolutely, given Alarielle comments and the bright up image of Kragnos, I am 90% certain he will be Kurnothi leader.

Red mane? Emerald ornaments? Kurnothi through and through, I am beyond delighted!

This is my fear, since we all thought that the Newborn was going to be a single model, now it is two. They are actual children of Slaanesh, they should be in terms of power comparable to playable deities of AoS. But if they are brought up to power and cost (500pts+ each) of playable deities, then that means that the rest of your army is going to be very, very small.

The models are beautiful, but I agree that their forms are at core a variation of KoS. I was hoping for the Newborn to be a unique creation on its own.

Truly Slaanesh favors us! Beautiful models and I think there are very big chances we are going to get new sub-factions!

We are back! @Enoby I must admit that I am looking forward to results. How other fellow Hedonites see the state of our faction.

I love the black marble with white veins aesthetic you are going for, please do post more as you finish Glutos. You did a excellent job on phrasing questions, so the draft survey should be very accurate in my humble opinion. Of course, I am hoping our fellow Hedonites here give their feedback too. What do you expect of Soulblight?

Correct, a points adjustment for a 2-3 units and Slaangors reworked would make us a powerhouse. @Enoby@AngryPanda There is one more option we can take, wait with sending anything to GW until the Soulblight are out. If their rules end up being systematically better than ours, then we can forget that HoS rules are signs of AOS 3 balance.

@Enoby@AngryPanda I apologize for my late reply but I think the poll is a very good way forward. I made a post where I tagged people who expressed to various degrees their grievances with our new rules, there were quite a lot of them. Since that post, more people followed. In the last pages of this thread, we have more people stating their opinions, which also end up more negative. All in all, our release was handled quite poorly, from rules to absence of new fiction book (Lumineth got 3 full novels, we zero). But we got very beautiful models, very few can compete with us. That is what matters the most. Rules are temporary, models are forever. I am continuing to play and my win rate is steadily increasing, but I stay clear of what I wish to play the most, Nobles of Excess and Slaangors. Looking around various websites, I do see a rather uniform opinion that Slaangors, Painbringers and Twinsouls need to be priority.

Slaanesh and/or the Newborn. I finished the book, personally BR Morathi was far better written in my opinion.

@CeleFAZE Personally, I would drop the Blissbarb Seekers and rather look into direction of more Slickblade Seekers or Blissbarb Archers.

I will be delighted if we get Kurnothi, no matter if we get them with Sylvaneth or not. It would be amusing if our Kurnothi talks end up being rubbish and they never come.

Alarielle is a vain and fickle goddess, Kurnoth systematically comes as brutally honest to main character in the book.

Still, it does not change the fact that followers of Kurnoth kill followers of Alarielle on sight, and vica versa. Even humans devoted to one of them kill each other in Dark Harvest.