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    AoS 2 - Ossiarch Bonereapers Discussion

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    Posted · Edited by baiardo

    Next game is against tzeentch, the list is more or less this:

    archaon

    belakor

    chaos sorcer lord x2

    the bluescribes

    10x2 kairic acolytes

    3x screamer

    spell: doom sigil

     

    At the current state I don't know if I want to use crawlers, infact I'm tempted to field nagash, what's the best advice/list you can give me against that list..archaon is really tough.

    I'm thinking something like this:

    Allegiance: Ossiarch Bonereapers
    - Grand Strategy:
    - Triumphs:

    Leaders
    Nagash, Supreme Lord of the Undead (970)
    Arkhan the Black, Mortarch of Sacrament (360)

    Battleline
    20 x Mortek Guard (280)
    - Nadirite Blade and Shield
    - Reinforced x 1
    5 x Kavalos Deathriders (190)
    - Nadirite Blade and Shield
    5 x Kavalos Deathriders (190)
    - Nadirite Blade and Shield

    Total: 1990 / 2000
    Reinforced Units: 1 / 4
    Allies: 0 / 400
    Wounds: 77
     

    AoS 2 - Ossiarch Bonereapers Discussion

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    2 hours ago, Btimmy said:

    He also still potentially denies a CP, and gives out a -1 to hit to anything you want. These are less valuable now of course, but mystic shield and all out attack on your whole army for 1 rdp still seems like the best thing you can be doing.  

    Yep, I had some luck but every turn I denied a CP and for nurgle that's hurt..I see that on myoppo face, and also the -1 to blightlords was super helpful, 10mortek survived 1turn more for that.

    I destroyed the enemy army at the start of the 4th turn and I lose the immortis guard+10mortek guard.

    AoS 2 - Ossiarch Bonereapers Discussion

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    18 minutes ago, Sception said:

    Is Katakros really worth running still?  +1 armor is good, but it's not ~that~ much better than the petrifex rend malus, and it seems like the big challenge with RDP in 3e won't be generating enough of it, it will be finding uses for even a relatively small handful of points now that you can't use the same CA multiple times in a phase.  That makes Katakros's massive RDP generation feel kind of redundant, where as bludgeon is even more valuable than before.

    Imho, yes, worth run him, +1armor and +1to hit is really a great buff and +1 to attack make me let the liege kavalos in the park bench.

    Now, we can build list even without him, that's the advantage of this edition and this possibility is also great, add variety in the list construction process.

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    AoS 2 - Ossiarch Bonereapers Discussion

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    Allegiance: Ossiarch Bonereapers
    - Legion: Mortis Praetorians
    - Mortal Realm: Ghur
    - Grand Strategy:
    - Triumphs:

    Leaders
    Katakros, Mortarch of the Necropolis (470)
    Arkhan the Black, Mortarch of Sacrament (360)
    Vokmortian, Master of the Bone-tithe (155)
    - General

    Battleline
    20 x Mortek Guard (280)
    - Nadirite Blade and Shield
    - Reinforced x 1
    10 x Mortek Guard (140)
    - Nadirite Blade and Shield
    5 x Kavalos Deathriders (190)
    - Nadirite Blade and Shield

    Units
    3 x Immortis Guard (190)
    2 x Morghast Archai (190)
    - Spirit Halberds

    Endless Spells & Invocations
    The Burning Head (20)

    Total: 1995 / 2000
    Reinforced Units: 1 / 4
    Allies: 0 / 400
    Wounds: 106
     
    For the report, blightkings lose 2models(8wounds) only for battleshock in one turn, he would have had to lose 3 models if it weren't for his hero..haha too fun XD
     
    Opponent list:
    Allegiance: Nurgle
    - Grand Strategy:
    - Triumphs:

    Leaders
    Horticulous Slimux (225)
    Fecula Flyblown (190)
    Lord of Afflictions (180)
    - General
    Great Unclean One (350)
    - Plague Flail & Massive Bilesword

    Battleline
    10 x Putrid Blightkings (330)
    - Reinforced x 1
    5 x Putrid Blightkings (165)
    6 x Pusgoyle Blightlords (555)
    - Reinforced x 2

    Total: 1995 / 2000
    Reinforced Units: 3 / 4
    Allies: 0 / 400
    Wounds: 141
     

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    Posted · Edited by baiardo

    I had a great game against nurgle, the obr playability is still good and the game is overall better than aos2.

    Few points:

    I used a lot of RDP although I thought: "I would not use any"

    Arkhan is really good

    Katakross is STILL really good

    Endless spells cost hurt us, we can't play what we want and a good endless, something need to be cut.

    I played a fun list but effective

     

    Great victory for OBR.

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    9 minutes ago, Elmir said:

    Second 2k game to test out the GHB rulespack of Seraphon vs OBR. Yes, there is more things to do, even in the enemy hero phase and it's definitely something to get used to. The game took very long (close to 4 hours)

     

    Who win and how you see OBR in the new edition?

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    19 minutes ago, Sception said:

    On the other hand, endless duty is also restricted to a single unit per phase, which means you'll have to look elsewhere if you want to give offensive buffs to more than a single unit, which imo raises the value of bludgeon every bit as much as the new restrictions reduce it, if not more so.  And while the petrifex rend malus isn't quite as good as katakros's +1 save, it doesn't use up any of your RDP and doesn't require you to field a near 500 point character.  IMO, petrifex is very competitive with Praetoreans right now, close enough that I wouldn't want to call between them before seeing some real tourney results.

    They're certainly both well ahead of the rest of our subfactions.

    I'm pretty happy to have at least two good legions to choose!!😄

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    AoS 2 - Ossiarch Bonereapers Discussion

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    15 minutes ago, Keddar said:

    Hi all, my apologies if this is in the wrong spot!

     

    I have recently gotten into AoS (have yet to play a game, though) and signed up for my LGS's Path to Glory campaign. I really got into the vibe of OBR, and even with the CA problems, I'm down to adopt "early" and wait for the Battletome update.

     

    That said, with zero experience in the game, I'm hitting significant roadblocks in trying to figure out a solid starting list for PtG. We're starting at 600 points, no uniques as Generals.

    So far, I've picked up:

    Liege-Kavalos

    Mortisan Boneshaper

    20x Mortek Guard

    5x Kavalos Deathriders

    1x Gothizzar Harvester

    Bonetithe Nexus

     

    My first plan - Boneshaper, 10x Guard, Harvester - feels like it might not "do" anything? So I grabbed the Liege, but then do I just replace the Harvester? Are the Deathriders worth working in at 600 points? Any help will be greatly appreciated!

     

    Also, I'm assuming Petrifex is pretty much the default at this point with the -1 Rend? At low points, I thought Crematorians would be fun, but I worry that they don't have the staying power to stay relevant at higher points. Pretty sure I'm grossly overthinnking this whole thing. lol

     

    Thank you for reading, and all I've picked up from skimming this thread!

    Welcome fellow undead legionary, seems like a good start, if your opponents allow you to play with 5 extra points at the limit, the soul reaper is not the same as boneshaper but can cast a spell and adapt to 1k.

    Keep the harvester anyway this year monsters are big favorites.

    Petrifex is good, you can go with that legion, easy.

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    5 hours ago, Archibald said:

    Until my Arkhan arrives and i can start playing Petrifex, i will be trying this list.

    On sunday i will be facing Sylvaneth in my first 3.0 battle.

    I don't know much about them, but i expect high mobility. So i will be moving forward in a big blob around Katakros and try to break some wood.

    Any tips or improvements?:)
     

    Allegiance: Ossiarch Bonereapers
    - Legion: Mortis Praetorians
    - Grand Strategy: 
    - Triumphs: 

    Leaders
    Katakros, Mortarch of the Necropolis (470) in Warlord
    Mortisan Boneshaper (135) in Warlord
    - Artefact: Artificer's Blade  
    - Lore of Mortisans: Drain Vitality
    Mortisan Soulmason (140) in Warlord
    - General
    - Command Trait: Katakros' Chosen  
    - Artefact: Gothizzar Cartouche  
    - Lore of Mortisans: Empower Nadirite Weapons

    Battleline
    20 x Mortek Guard (280) in Hunters of the Heartlands
    - Nadirite Blade and Shield
    - 2x Soulcleaver Greatblades
    - Reinforced x 1
    20 x Mortek Guard (280) in Hunters of the Heartlands
    - Nadirite Blade and Shield
    - 2x Soulcleaver Greatblades
    - Reinforced x 1
    5 x Kavalos Deathriders (190)
    - Nadirite Blade and Shield

    Units
    3 x Necropolis Stalkers (180) in Warlord

    Behemoths
    Gothizzar Harvester (215)
    - Weapon: Soulcrusher Bludgeons

    Endless Spells & Invocations
    Nightmare Predator (65)

    Additional Enhancements
    Artefact

    Total: 1955 / 2000
    Reinforced Units: 2 / 4
    Allies: 0 / 400
    Wounds: 108
     

    I would like to listen at least how two harvesters work with that list, why?

    -support for your grand strategy.

    -you can make a lot of extra points with monsters and tactics now.

    -can use alpha-pack battalion for advance deployments.

    -you can use realm of ghur sinergy with monsters, also you can transform katakros in one.

    -provide good resilience in term of healing, yes they can shoot at us but let us resurrect as many as we can.

    -bring some kind of autonomy in mid-game

    -count as 5models now

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    1 hour ago, Alaric83 said:

    Thank you for your answer! I don't really like the Katakros model, so if I could avoid bringing it, I would like to do that.

    Though I am open to bringing Arkhan! Are the OBR endless spells really worth it now, though? They cost so much in 3rd edition...

    Also, Petrifex > Stalliarchs from what I read. Got it, thanks!

    Bone-tithe is really good, if you can play it, especially if you need to hit hard, if your strategy is to attack the opponent is good.

    Predator is a very good hero support removal.

    Stalliarch have potential but since the CA requires a mount unit to target, a unit with at least 10death riders is the base. The problem is the coherency rule.

     

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    26 minutes ago, Obeisance said:

    Why Archai over Harbingers? I feel like 3d6 charge will be more valuable in getting around Redeploy.

    Just.. better durability?

     

    Yes, Archai have a better save against MW, since the great weakness in a low bodies list is lose models every model count and in the strategy of the list I don’t want archai to go wild but remain in formation near some support.

    If you play stalliarch, harbringers is certainly valuable, depends what you want to do.

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    Posted · Edited by baiardo

    Brainstorming a little with new edition:

    Allegiance: Ossiarch Bonereapers
    - Legion: Mortis Praetorians
    - Mortal Realm: Shyish
    - Grand Strategy: Hold the Line
    - Triumphs:

    Leaders
    Katakros, Mortarch of the Necropolis (470)
    Mortisan Boneshaper (135)

    Battleline
    20 x Mortek Guard (280)
    - Nadirite Blade and Shield
    - Reinforced x 1
    20 x Mortek Guard (280)
    - Nadirite Blade and Shield
    - Reinforced x 1
    5 x Kavalos Deathriders (190)
    - Nadirite Blade and Shield

    Behemoths
    Gothizzar Harvester (215)
    Gothizzar Harvester (215)
    Gothizzar Harvester (215)

    Total: 2000 / 2000
    Reinforced Units: 2 / 4
    Allies: 0 / 400
    Wounds: 110
     
    I want to play it with each harvester near and behind each battleline so when the time come they can charge if I want. With this display we have a good support in term of healing, buff with katakros and shoting. Infantry + monster under the bubble seems also a good objectives keeper.
     

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    6 hours ago, Alaric83 said:

    Hello guys,

    New OBR player here. Not looking to win tournament, but I made a list with all the units I like, and I wonder with which subfaction I should play it : Petrifex or Stalliarch Lords ?

    I love Stalkers and Morghasts, and wanted a very mobile, in-your-face style of army. Is it better to go all-in on mobility with Stalliarchs or, since tables are smaller, to go with Petrifex so i'll hold my own better against enemy attacks?

    • Liege-Kavalos
    • Liege-Kavalos
    • 5 Deathriders
    • 5 Deathriders
    • 10 Mortek Guards
    • 6 Stalkers
    • 6 Stalkers
    • 4 Morghasts

    I am open to small modifications of the list, but I really like the heavy monstrous infantry build. Since my key units are 4W, I don't think I need healing or resurrection that much.

    Thanks for your feedback! Looking forward to join the AoS community with my OBRs!

     

    Allegiance: Ossiarch Bonereapers
    - Legion: Mortis Praetorians
    - Grand Strategy: Vendetta
    - Triumphs:

    Leaders
    Katakros, Mortarch of the Necropolis (470)
    Vokmortian, Master of the Bone-tithe (155)

    Battleline
    5 x Kavalos Deathriders (190)
    - Nadirite Blade and Shield
    5 x Kavalos Deathriders (190)
    - Nadirite Blade and Shield
    10 x Mortek Guard (140)
    - Nadirite Blade and Shield

    Units
    6 x Necropolis Stalkers (360)
    - Reinforced x 1
    2 x Morghast Archai (190)
    - Spirit Swords
    2 x Morghast Archai (190)
    - Spirit Halberds

    Endless Spells & Invocations
    Chronomantic Cogs (45)
    Horrorghast (65)

    Total: 1995 / 2000
    Reinforced Units: 1 / 4
    Allies: 0 / 400
    Wounds: 114
     
    Petrifex are good for attack and defence, stalliarch for very aggressive play.
    both good for the play you like, try both.

    The problem is that you lack wounds and bodies, if you lose too early 6stalkers or morghast before you can destroy important enemy units the game is over, also you are in a bad position controlling objectives.

    I propose to you katakros + mortis praetorians, you need to advance all units in one block under the bubble of katkaros, better save and hit(that other legions don't have), except for those units you send for objectives.

    Hit hard with what you have in one point, you need to destroy one unit a time. The best is kill enemy general.

    With Katakros, Vokmortian and at least 1unit of morghast enemy units will have a -3morale debuff, if you hit hard horrorghast will do the rest.

     

    Not a competitive list for now but fun I think...

    or

    Bring Arkhan and Petrifex Elite for support plus predator/bone-tithe endless spell, that is more in meta.

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    SCE have plenty of sub-factions, I would feel limited if I can't play all of them in the time I play SCE.

    Obviously, I can paint my army only with one scheme-color.

    Also, sometimes happen that you have almost finished to paint the sub-faction you like playing and also like the background story of it, but an important nerf/new edition/errata encourage another sub-faction, maybe the only playable.

    So, the solution is let me play with the army I bought and painted as I liked, otherwise this address people to let the army basic plastic grey or paint with 3shadow of grey for tournament purpose.

     

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    So if I want to play all the sub-factions along time I can't?

    Or should I have the same army in a different scheme color for every sub-faction?

    If I have a color scheme similar to a sub-faction I'm stuck with that faction or no sub-faction at all? that's plain stupid to me, once I said to my opponent what sub-faction I play there's no confusion, and viceversa.

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