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I'm new to all this compared to others but I would always charge my Bladegheists for the +1 and then a possible WoT and then move the Support up next turn. If you do it the other way, well any time to be fair, is that you could still end up with the Support charging and getting there but the Bladegheist failing. I'd rather have my Bladegheists in without the support than the support in without the Bladegheists.

Thanks everyone. I think I'll continue on with my plan to get one then as I have 2 Ghorgons and a Cygor from the Start Collecting boxes.

I have yet to get anything like that for BoC but I was going to get the Chimera as I'd heard/read/seen/cant really remember how that it was the best one to get, followed by the Cockatrice with the Jabberslythe being a complete waste, other than the 'normal' BoC army units of course.

Reads to me like it can be used every time. The odds of dispelling may be better than the odds of using the artefact but, if you successfully use it then it can't be cast again. That's the choice you have to make.

I don't use Grimghast Reapers and have seen a few comments and reviews saying that they're not as good. I went Bladegheist with their +1 attack on charges, retreat and attack in the same turn and their Battalion which gives them a 5+ deathless save on top of them having a better model. Put a Spirit Torment or Chainghasts nearby and you're rerolling hit rolls too. Others here will have their views and could advocate for Grimghast and how 2" range benefits them better or the Mortal Wound output from the Death Knell and so on. It all depends on what Army you're looking to build.

I guess that depends on how big you want it to be, what you want it to do and what you want it to look like. Ive spent about £200 on about 1500pts worth but had a specific unit list. I've still got a bit more to spend to get it right. Then I'm going to want to add extra. Then I'll want to upgrade. How long is a piece of string again? 😂😂

Keldimir looked over at the Spirt Torment and checked that he was keeping the Chainrasp Horde in some sort of order and was pleased with what he saw. Without his brother Gathus at his side, Rasark was a sharper and stronger Gheist. Nagash had seen the constant and deep-rooted hate that each brother had for the other in life, and when the time was right, he took their souls and made them fight together in the Reaper Brigade. Forcing them to be near one another so that their hate made them fight harder but, on this occasion, Gathus had been summoned by Lady Olynder and when the Mortarch of Grief herself called, you went. Rasark was stronger without him. Keldimir looked back at his charges. The Spirit Hosts were writhing around, moving in and out of each other, the wisps changing to form faces twisted into grotesques visages of pain and torment. They stayed near, him captured by his aura. Waiting for his commands. Two Chainghast also floated nearby. Strange gheists that seemed to be almost catatonic until something was in range and then they would shoot out huge locks and chains as they approached, turning into frenzied whirlwinds of pain and injury when engaged with the enemy. The Reaper Brigade had been travelling through Ghyran from the Necrotic Edge to Witherdwell when they caught sight of a small Beast Herd. Keldimir’s forces were also reduced. But the will of Nagash is overpowering and when the enemy are seen they are to be killed, their souls returned to their rightful owner and for Death to be a step closer to ruling the 8 realms. With the Spirit Hosts laying low in a small arcane grave yard and Rasark slowly moving through an old building that would cause even the greatest fighters to lose their bravery, Keldimir moved to look at what the herd consisted of, his steed clanking on the bit. Looking for a weakness, waiting for the right time. To the left of some Wyldwoods were 20 Bestigors. To the right of the trees there was a Ghorgon, a huge monster that was pacing up and down, bellowing and snorting. Scraping at the floor with his boulder like hooves. Near to the Herdstone was another 10 Bestigors, a Great Bray Shamen and the Beastlord. As he watched, his steed exhaled sharply and let out a low whinny. Thee Beastlord turned and look straight at them. His beast senses keen from centuries of fighting. Keldimir saw the beast’s nose wrinkle as he sniffed the air, and then he bellowed. A sound that alerted the whole herd and they all looked towards him. The fight was on. But he was ready for all are one in Nagash, Nagash is all. Keldimir watched as the Beastlord, with 10 Bestigors beside him ran towards the ruins with Rasark and the Chainrasps. Had Keldimir been human, he would have been terrified of the banner held by the unit. It was decked with Stormcast Armour and weaponry, Sigmar’s Troops, the most heroic of souls, stolen from Nagash and so it would have served an awesome sight, but it was of no use against his Nighthaunt. As for how to defeat them, he knew they needed to hold this building if they were to be victorious. Rasark, thinking as one with the rest of the Brigade. moved his Chainrasps to hide inside and all 20 floated into a defensive formation. On his right, 10 more Bestigors ran around the Wyldwood towards the Graveyard and the Ghorgon started to walk towards them too. The sounds of war urged Keldimir onwards, bellowing, and bleating Beasts, the thunderous sound as the Ghorgon walked towards them, snarling and roaring. Any mere mortal would have been intimidated but The Reaper Brigade, as diminished as it was, were not. Suddenly, the Chainghasts wailed and came to life, the Ghorgon was in range. They attacked, padlocks as big as human heads flew out on ethereal chains big enough to dock ships in the high seas, smashing into the Ghorgon as he tried to swat them away. Some of them hit, tearing huge chunks of flesh from his side but a monster as big as the Ghorgon would take a lot before it stopped. A clash of weapons, echoing from the building to his right signalled the Bestigors clashing with the Chainrasps. From what could be seen from his vantage point, it looked like the Bestigors had left their General behind. 10 Bestigors were no match for 20 Chainrasps and Rasark, so Keldimir turned back as the Ghorgon reached the Graves. The Spirit Hosts screeched and clawed their way to the Ghorgon as he attacked the Chainghasts, angered by the wounds he had suffered. His blade like hands and slavering maw ripped into them and they screamed and fled as they were defeated, he turned his attention to the Spirit Hosts and attacked them over the walls, ripping them to pieces too. The last one of the three flew towards the Ghorgon and with his blades and claws, the Ghorgon took further injuries. He was beginning to slow down, blood pouring from his wounds. The Chainrasps had torn the Bestigors to shreds causing the last few to run away, partly because of their losses but also due to the old terrifying ruins. Keldimir, seeing the time as right, played the ace up his sleeve. Another horde of 20 Chainrasps had been making their way to the Great Bray Shamen at the Herdstone via the Underworld. They came out of the ground and moved towards the Beast Wizard as he sacrificed Ungors to his own Gods. Keldimir scoffed at the futility. All are one in Nagash. Nagash is all. The Beastlord stopped in the middle of the battlefield. Too far from the Bestigors to save them, and so would end up facing 20 Chainrasps on his own, odds he was old enough to know were way off. He turned around when he noticed his Great Bray Shamen stop chanting and sacrificing just in time to see him be dragged down into a sea of ghosts. A huge bladed hand then caught Keldimir on the side of his head, tearing the cheek piece away and stunning him, even being ethereal, he was not immune to being wounded or feeling pain. He turned, raising his Sword of Stolen Hours up. Stopping the next attack and the next. Rasark, seeing his General in combat, raced over and engaged the Ghorgon too. The distraction was enough as the Knight of Shrouds found his composure and cut and sliced his way around the attacks of the Ghorgon. It bellowed and roared in agony, as it slumped down onto its knees, collapsing to the side and lay against the wall of the graveyard. Its eye wildly looking around as it breathed its last breaths. Blood soaking the ground. It bellowed again refusing to die. It kicked out, trying to stand but it couldn’t. A pitiful wail. A final breath and then peace. Keldimir looked around. The Beasts were defeated. The 10 Bestigors to the left had just made it to the Graveyard as the Ghorgon was killed and so turned and run. The Beastlord had left too, his forces depleted, he would no doubt cower in the woods and forests and rebuild. Keldimir called his forces and continued his march to Witherdwell.

You made a mistake with your post. I've edited it for you 😁 All joking aside, @Dankboss is right. I would add that on top of this, there will be certain models, units, powers or abilities that will allow an army to play in almost anyway you want. So even if you look into a particular one, it may be that the same army made up of two different sets of units, acts and plays completely different. Whoever you decide on from the two you're looking into... welcome to the forum!

Me too. The most I want to do with 40K is to win one of the sets being given away by MiniWarGaming so that I can sell it and buy more AoS.

Haha I was typing at the same time! The buffs last as they would as per the spell so for example - until the next hero phase. Endless spells stay until dispelled. Aura effects stop as soon as the wizard is off the table.

Got some name tags for Father's day 😁 Went for the aged rusty metal look with polished lettering.

Yep. You have to buy the GHB but you can get it on the app or as a PDF if you don't want the physical book.

Me and you gonna have a problem! 🤣🤣

IMO, it's a horde army with a lot of low point models and so you will inevitably need some blobs somewhere if you want to play rather than just collect a specific number of points. Chainrasps are easy to paint though so can be a quick way to bulk up numbers and there are loads of people selling them second hand on sprues, or built unpainted, to get them a lot cheaper. My NH army is 2200 when I play it with 2 Battalions and I have 40 Chainrasps and 20 Bladeghiest as my main blobs. There is the Black coach (220) , Mourngul (280?), Lady Olynder (200) and Kurdoss (180)/Reikenor (170) and you're already half way there. Spirit Torments (120) and Guardians of Souls (140) are generally needed in any NH army too with the Knight of Shrouds (120/100) the 'normal' General. Add on the Bladegheists (20 = 320) and the Chainrasps (40 = 280) and you're very nearly there. The thing with NH is that one Army won't rule them all. You need to change the lineup to fit the opponent and the battleplan.

HAHAHA! That is crazy. Good crazy, but crazy!

Yeah I saw this but I figured that for me it's not that great value for money. I'd be getting Kurdoss,who I would like to have but that's it. The Harridans and Grimghast are only 10 models and so I would need more to get the best out of them and from a game play perspective, the Harridans would cost me CP's to buff that I prefer to use for WoT. The Hexwraiths would come in handy but they are the models I hate in Nighthaunt, aesthetically speaking, and I didn't enjoy painting them. Lastly, although 10 more Chainrasps and 10 more Bladegheists wouldn't go amiss, they don't add anything new. So I'd be paying £83 for a £23 model I want and the other £60 pays for units that would need more models adding to them therefore costing even more. Would the Black Coach be better if I had £83 to spend?

Good thinking. I'll have a look around and see whats on YouTube for some ideas.

So as you may have seen from the other forums I am now officially painting back log free. But also money free. I will however eventually get more money to get more back log! So my question is - with the following NH army already. What could be good next purchases, other than the given which is the Black Coach, that will take some saving for 40 Chainrasps, 20 Bladegheist, 5 Hexwraiths, 3 Spirit Hosts, 4 Grimghast Reapers, 5 Glaivewraith Stalkers, 2 Spirit Torments, 2 Chainghasts, KoS on Ethereal Steed, Lord Executioner, GoS, Reikenor and Lady Olynder. I currently play either Chainguard or The Condemned , mostly Condemned to be fair, and the Shroudguard. My thoughts are The Kraven King, 3 more Spirit Hosts or maybe some Dreadblade Harrows? Mourngul would be good for the model, but not necessarily worth it to play. Let me know what you all think.

Its on my list. I could do with some hills and cliffs and stone columns and the like but that's then money. And until pay day, I have none. And even then those pesky bills may take more than I want.

So that's it. All my painting complete . No back log. No grey plastic. So during lock down I've painted all my BoC army - 30 Bestigors, 10 Gors, 20 Ungor Raiders, 10 Ungors, 3 Great Bray Shamen, 2 Ghorgon, 1 Cygor, A Beastlord and 2 Chaos Spawn! I also finished painting the Azyrite Ruins and the Sigmarite Mauseleum. The pic is of the last ones I've painted and has the kit bashed standard to wind my son up with too 😁 Now I'm skint and so I'm going to see what I can sell... 😉

The rules always say... "at the start of the so & so phase..." I've not seen one that says pick this at the beginning of the game and it lasts forEVAH!

The interview is on YouTube - AoS Coach, Beasts of Chaos Faction Focus. I don't know what the Doom and Darkness one is.

He was on Aos Coach with Ryan Kirby for the BoC Faction Focus video and he was also on his own on 2+ Tough talking about the same stuff (I didn't rate this interview. The AoS Coach was much better). The AoS Coach interview was what made me pick BoC and I built my wish list on the Desolating Beastherd and his list 👌 No regrets so far. Just need to be allowed to be within sneezing distance of someone to actually get a game 😂😂

If you're anything like me you'll just forget to say it. Everytime. Whilst shouting that you definitely won't forget next turn!

Well after having NH and BoC I've been looking for a more model light army. I'm guessing that 3 giants and some aleguzzlers will fit that bill quite well 😂 In fact I've just finished the leadbelcher on more Bestigors than the whole gargant army!