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Duke Eligos

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  1. The Kharadron didn't follow Grungni (Gromthi) in BR:Be'lakor. Recent lore blurbs hint at both unification and separation in regards to KO. I still think it's likely, but I think the fact that the most recent hint was followed by saying that the IDK and DoK were united in purpose (aka more united than KO and FS) means that I take it with a grain of salt. Honestly, I'm not sure that Duardin are going to show up in any significant way soon. 3rd Edition will retain a focus on SCE and Destruction for a bit, then Sylvaneth will probably be on the rise. We either get a soup tome with no impact that doesn't affect the story or we wait some more. The Kharadron battletome is still very recent and in very good shape imo. Don't see why you'd invest resources on factions when your main goal is to minimise the resources you give them by uniting them. The best-case scenario is that the Grotbag Scuttlers come out alongside a KO second wave.
  2. One of the major new developments in the Mortal Realms' narrative is the Cursed Skies. The SCE already shrugged the problem off with their new armour, but the skies are still cursed across the Realms. It would be painfully easy to give them narrative weight since they are the dominant power in the skies of the setting. Jokes aside, the kharadron do have Grudgehalls and the Kharadron Code has a grudge-clause to grant Kharadron Rune of Marks I'm an old dwarf fan who grew to prefer the innovative take on dwarven tropes that KO have. There isn't a lot of unique dwarf factions in major fantasy IPs (I'd even argue that KO are the only one).. so losing it because GW doesn't know what to do with the old tropes that we've known for decades is soul-crushing.
  3. I'm not interested in a story about reuniting and reclaiming. And reclaiming what exactly? The old Karaks? Why would I be interested in old crapy underground complexes when Sky-ports are cooler in every single way? I'm interested in the skies of the Mortal Realms and how the Kharadron interact with them. Changing the focus to an underground reconquista completely changes the narrative and the setting in which my faction operates. I don't mind the odd few mentions of Kharadron pillaging (not conquering) ancient karaks, but I want the main focus to remain on the skies of the Mortal Realms and the sky-ports. I will also never own Fyreslayer or Dispossessed models, even more so if they drag my faction down... I hold grudges, believe it or not, and reducing the Kharadron to a soup tome is one hell of a grudge.
  4. You're mistaking GW making small factions to see what sells and what doesn't for planned obsolescence. They started by making smaller factions in order to populate the setting faster and to allow crazier ideas to come out. Then you see what sticks and build upon it later on. Unless you are considered a 'safer faction' like SCE (Space Marine). At some point, the setting developed enough of an identity that they could build up meatier factions. Give it time for a Kharadron second wave... I wouldn't mind waiting another 3-5 years if I do get to keep my faction as it is.
  5. Better dead than desecrated. There are many hints of new Kharadron units on the way, be it from their battletome (Black Marine and Copperhat) or the more recent BR:Be'lakor (shock-vessel and single-pilot fighter craft). You're straight-up inventing that KO won't get new models unless they get dissolved into a soup tome. Is it so hard for people to conceive that people can enjoy having factions being their own thing and how merging them with others can ruin their interest in said factions? I'd rather if they killed the faction I love, both lore and model wise, than having this ****** happen.
  6. Not getting anything new because of a duardin soup is part of the problem believe it or not. The other part is losing the content that has to be removed for 2-3 factions to fit in 1 Battletome. We can already play with every Duardin model in Barak-Thryng, a duardin soup book doesn't give us anything new.
  7. In Fantasy Goblins, Orcs and Giants were all together. Why not unite them while you're at it? Old Dwarves didn't have Magmadroth, their artillery wasn't steampunk in any way shape or form and the Gyrocopters have a completely different aesthetic to Kharadron skyvessels. The only thing those factions share is their race. The point of the Kharadron is that they AREN'T classic dwarfs. Combining them to be a part of a global classic duardin force ruins what I like the most about them. I like that they are off doing their own thing and gave up on old dwarf tropes and aesthetic. The only way to be happy with a duardin soup is to either don't like the current duardin factions, not care enough about lore and model aesthetic or to be desperate enough to settle for garbage.
  8. What I want in an army is for it to represent a coherent culture/civilisation that tells a captivating story that lets my imagination go wild. The problem with souping everything for convenience sake is that those things are often the first things to be affected. There's a big difference between souping factions whose models were designed to be of the same culture/civilisation (like Skavens and Ogors) and doing it with factions who were designed on their own with no concern about fitting in other armies (like KO, FS, IDK and DoK). The closest thing to uniting the Duardin that GW has done in the past is merging all the Old World Elves in End Times: Khaine... and I expect the fans of the factions to react similarly to how Elf fans reacted to ETK. Those who don't care about the lore and aesthetic identity will be happy to have more things to play with, while the rest will be fuming for years to come. Tldr; I want factions to be divided by culture instead of their race.
  9. None of the Kharadron Battletomes mentions a potential union with other Duardin forces. The White Dwarf story about the Kharadron also does not mention any need for Kharadron to unite with other duardin forces. The Duardin question is very different from what GW did with Orruks. We are talking about an insane amount of build-up and preparation for what is to come with Grungni. GW never put that much effort into releases without a considerable amount of new models. If the Duardin were to be put into one Battletome it would just have been dropped out of nowhere. It's well known that no one who plays the any of the current duardin factions wants a combined Duardin tome. It'll either be a new Duardin faction or a slap in the face of Duardin fans, forever relegating the duardin factions to useless background noise that will never get second waves of models.
  10. This only holds water if you take into accounts the least popular Duardin faction and disregard the fact that Aelves are getting more support atm than any other fantasy race. I mean we are literally in a narrative entirely centered on Aelven gods. Hell, even if Morathi just got an entire narrative shaping campaign book for her, that DoK got the latest versus boxset and are presently being hyped for their newest battletome…. Even with all that they aren’t “more popular” than the Kharadron Overlords. Why such? I personally prefer Duardin over Aelves, the difference is that I don’t try to prove that one is “better” than the other since I realise that those tropes attract different peoples and that people interest in things is heavily influenced by the amount of efforts put into any given faction. As for Fyreslayers, I honestly think that what holds back the army is that the dual Hearthguard kit should never have been made. It doesn’t add anything to the faction. If they weren’t a thing, we would be speculating about what type of cool elite Spartan berserker duardin would come next. It would also be easier to tolerate an army with limited aesthetic if it only had one battleline and a monster (plus heroes).
  11. I don't like people talking about a combined Duardin book, mainly because it implies combining the Kharadron with other factions. I know that most people mean Dispossessed + Fyreslayers when they talk about that possibility (even more plausible considering the unification teases all came from the Fyreslayer Bt and weren't included in the latest KO Bt), but it's always annoying to not take the time to mention it. I'm not surprised at all by the placement of the Kharadron, they always seem to rank 4th or higher in popularity/favorite faction. What's impressive is that they managed to create such a considerable following without getting that much model support. The mere ingenuity of their concept and their top quality lore and models seem to be more than enough. My biggest surprise is SoB, that army is still very recent so they should be way higher than that. Hedonites, DoK and LRL do benefit from current hype to some extent. LRL is nonetheless a popular army, notably because they managed to grab High Elves fans. Hedonites' placement seems very bad considering the huge model release and attention they are getting. I also think that the survey was too vague and it makes the data's insight limited.
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