Double Misfire

Wait and see! Looking at other armies' Armies of Infamy, Errantry War lists can still include Peasants as special choices, and the Orc and Goblin 'Troll Horde' still features orcs, common goblins and artillery in the preview photos, so I'd hazard the likely Slayer AoI as more 'Karak Kadrin - Slayers and Friends' than the Storm of Chaos 'Slayer Cult - All Slayers All the Time'. You'll probably be looking at Slayers as a Core choice along with Warriors and Quarrellers, Dragon Slayer BSB, Doomseekers, Goblin Hewers, Brotherhood of Grimnir, Thunderers moved to Special, Special choices moved to Rare, Rare choices either made 0-1 or ditched entirely, and no option for a vanilla King 'cos Ungrim. If someone hated the classics and really wanted plastic Slayer models, I hear that newfangled game where models fight on individual plastic disks, instead of being squished together in complicated rectangles has entire range of them. Welcome to proper wargames GW games 20 years ago 😁

Story dating back to the 4th ed Battle Bestiary and expanded on in the Dogs of War armybook. Golgfag and his ogres (for a fee) helped Ungrim defeat a massive orc army at the Battle of Broken Leg Gulley (a net win for Ungrim, Thorgrim rewarded him with the dragon cloak his TOW model lacks after), only to sign on with some other orcs and become a thorn in Ungrim's side later. Ungrim later captured and imprisoned Golfgfag, along with most of the orc and goblin army he'd joined. During his short stay in dwarf jail, Golgfag got so hungry he ate all the orcs and goblins, and then his ogres, bar Skaff, his best mate, who out of sentimentality he decided to eat slow, and had only eaten the leg of when the dwarfs discovered him. Ungrim was so impressed/horrified he had Golgfag taken a very long way away from Karak Kadrin and released. Golgfag and Skag, note the missing leg:

More of these, and not just for Orc and Goblin players: Looks like everybody can take ogres, and Warriors and Beastmen get the really tall giant. Canonically TOW predates Ungrim Ironfist learning the downside of hiring ogres, which is topical because he got a new mini today.

Hoping for pre ranger Bugman or Bugman's dad. Expecting Grombrindal. 😬

Oh, completely forgot! 🤦‍♂️ More than any of the characters listed in the last post, I'd love to see the Empire get Fredrich von Taurnus, a character who's been teased in Empire armybooks since 4th and would have been active during TOW. He'd go on to become the first Patriarch of the Bright Order, trained up by Teclis, but before the Great War Against Chaos was the commander of the Carroburg Greatswords, before being disgraced when he was discovered as a hedge wizard. He's notable for making magic items and being a 'warrior mage' who wore armour, and presumably swung a big sword.

Tyrion and Teclis were 100 year old 'young' elves out roaming the world pre loading up on magic items ahead of Finuval Plain, making them definite frontrunners. I've already made a list of dwarfs who might show up in the dwarf thread: Warriors of Chaos wise, Scyla Anfingrimm only turned into a Khorgorath Chaos Spawn a couple of Years before the Great War Against Chaos, so seeing him pop up as a Mortal Champion could be neat. Araball the Undefeated and Valnir the Reaper were both active during the Great War Against Chaos, and presumably active before it. Galrauch, Dechala, Azazel, Kholek Suneater, Sigvald and debatably Aekold Hellbrass and Valkia had also all been around for centauries by this point. No idea how old Vilitch and Festus are supposed to be. Beastmen... Morghur's whole deal is being reborn, so no reason he couldn't be around. Pretty much any named Wood Elf could show up, though it'd be nice if Scarloc's archers got the Made to Order Regiment of Renown treatment following Prince Ulther's Imperial Dwarfs.

Same, though the ones I'm most excited for, I already own, and are from 1987 🫤

He would be very young if he was, and living fairly happily in or around Karaz-a-Karak not having taken the Slayer Oath. I've always liked the idea that his axe has had multiple bearers over the centauries, with Grimnir trying to create a new avatar each time, and somehow ending up back in the Chaos Wastes for the next unlucky dwarf to find. We could see it in TOW with a completely different wielder.

Bugman, or at lest his dad are defiantly around at the time TOW's set if we've got a beer cart coming out, but Bugman's Brewery can't have been torched by goblins yet, as Bugman was away delivering a special shipment to the Emperor when this happened, and the Empire hasn't had an Emperor for 800 years, so he'd have to be Kragg's age if we were gonna see him as a ranger. Bugman or Zamnil/Samuel as a super wealthy merchant could be a fun earlier take on Warhammer's first (**** off Kemmler) and most iconic special character though, especially with Imperial Dwarfs starting to look like the second likely army of Infamy (Slayer Cult all but a given at this point). Dwarf lifespans are pretty elastic in Warhammer (you've got to ignore the figures given in various WFRP editions saying they live to about 200 for any of the timelines to work), and the Engineers Guild's so conservative the still be call machines they've been using for hundreds of years newfangled and experimental, so I'd buy Burlok having a rebellious youth that lasted almost a centaury. Kazador was my favourite special character as a kid, but he probably wouldn't have lost his son as early as TOW (200 years is a long time to fail to kill Gorfang Rotgut, or for Gorfang to not get himself killed. Orcs don't die of old age, but you don't hear about them reaching it either), and he wouldn't even have background, let along rules to make him stand out from a garden variety Dwarf Lord.

Tinder pic vs what turns up

You might be in luck... The 6th ed Longbeards are the dwarfiest dwarfs ever made, and it would be an injustice not to sell them. Interested to see which Imperial Dwarfs get rereleased, hopefully these ones (despite the fact they were never released as 'Imperial Dwarfs'), as I've got a pile of dwarfs with spears who've not had rules for 23 years: The article says we may remember both of them from WFB, so it's not gonna be anyone new, which warms my heart (though I still think of Alrik and Thorek as 'new') Grombrindal with his 500th mag anniversary model still unrevealed feels like a good reason the second special character isn't announced here. Thorgrim as the hotheaded young go-getter he was established as pre High King in 8th also feels like a really safe bet, though honestly hope it's anyone else, as off the Throne of Power, I'm not sure he'd have much going rules wise to differentiate himself from any other Dwarf Lord. Kragg the Grim would be a great candidate to bring back for TOW as he'd already lived several times longer than a regular dwarf even then. Burlok Damminson's old enough to have an adult son by the 2500s, which would put him at around Ungrim's age, and could given an engineer lord option. Deeper cut engineer lord: 'The Magnificent' Sven Hasselfriesian's a contempory of Burlok's and would also be around. Dullest option: Thorek. They're already rereleasing the Anvil, so why not make the basic kit a special character for the fifth edition in a row? 😬

Well I stand corrected. Maybe Malakai invented a time machine

Ogre Maneaters made it into their legacy list, and they're not supposed to have started calling themselves Maneaters till Golgfag turned up, so you never know 🤷‍♂️

Fantasy Kroot are an awesome idea @Trokair, but would Wood Elves or Beastmen not be more obvious fits to proxy them as? (I imagine you've thought about this a lot more than I have)

I really hope the two Armies of Infamy are anything but Slayer Cult and Engineers Guild. One of my best friends ran a Slayer list during Storm of Chaos, and while it could be beaten (typically with a lot of shooting, and cannon sniping to take out Doomseekers), an entire army ignoring one of the key game mechanics (combat resolution) is no fun to play against. Also Doomseekers were an unbalanced, game breaking mess; even if they'd cost triple the points they were priced at, they'd still have felt overpowered. Re: Engineers Guild: Gyrocopters are already special choices, and we're not gonna get any new kits, so a list veering in this direction would just incentivise gunlines, that while hugely enjoyable to have deployed in front of you, I've been informed by almost 30 years of opponents are no fun to play against. No other obvious Army of Infamy candidates for Dwarfs exactly leap out mind. Maybe a sort of 'Royal Throng' elite army, allowing players who just like the 8th ed kits to only run Longbears, Hammerers, Ironbreakers and Irondrakes, without having to worry about the older plastics? An Underway type army focused on Minders and Ironbreaker/Drakes? overground/Ranger force encouraging a mobile playstyle with Ranger units backed up by Gyros, with some kind of Ranger Longbeard/Veteran Rangers option? It's sad that Alriksson's already a named character. A High Queen leading the dwarfs would have been a neat way to differentiate the new/old era from the 2500s. Goblin Hewer ain't gonna happen. Like the Empire wizard wagons it hasn't been invented yet. If you're lucky enough to own one, and patient enough to assemble it, run it as an Organ Gun? Fully agree on any excuse to buy dwarfs 👍

It was never progression. Grom and Gorbad both trashed the Empire respectively decades and centuries before WFB's 'present day' and the reign of Karl Franz ect. 4th edition WFB's background was very much written as a long timeline of previous engagements between factions who's methods of waging war had remained unchanged for hundreds, sometimes thousands of years, in an effort to encourage players to recreate 'historical' battles as an excuse for characters to fight. There were a lot of already long dead special characters back then! Unless you mean progression like Ghazgkull's recent stuff, though I'm not sure why anyone who claims to like orcs/orks/orruks would want that!

Trying to sell Night Lords??

If you picked the box up new and have a receipt, GW are usually pretty good at sending out a replacement. I've had boxes with missing bases before, and friends have experienced pieces missing from sprues like yours, and they've promptly sent out replacements, so give their customer services a try. Be warned, if you bought the box from an independent seller you may expect a bit of extra red tape. Good luck!

Some Skaven are born from ten foot long obese breeders, some are born from 'eggs', others are delivered by a Blanchitsu stork. Infinite Realms baby 🤷‍♂️

Welcome to TGA. I admire your optimism. -longtime lurker who make an account five years ago!

Eff me, I forget about the Globadiers and Warpfire Thrower. Now that Eldar Warlocks have finally been retired (😢) I think they're probably GW's longest serving minis!

What are Beastmen? (Not even gonna pretend Chaos Dwarfs are a thing)

I've played like two games of the new edition and had forgotten the general's (pointless) free shield was a modifier and didn't stack. Thanks for the heads up, you just saved me painting a griffon!

The Steam Tank Commander's not bad with the +1 save artefact, but I can't help wishing I'd painted up a +1 save griffon instead...

Steam Tanks. Definitely Steam Tanks.