Amadeus

here's the thing, it doesn't matter what I think. I appreciate that you have put a lot of time into this I really do. I see your point it's a good one.

well first I really like the atheistic of Ogres and I'm currently reading their new batteltomb. I can only speak to my experiences with on the battlefield and what I have seen so crunching numbers is kind of pointless I suppose, that whole what should be and what actually happens thing, So Orks aren't ogres, according to the Lore Ogres are a little bigger stronger and more regenerative? at least that's what this batteltomb is hinting at. Iron Jaws hit really hard but lack the bodies to be super effective in warcry I think they have to rely on their waagh ability to much to just get around. but that's what stops them from being a super powerhouse in a game that's focusing on small chaos tribes. FEC aren't ogres? they would and do have a completely different dynamic and atheistic ? but all in all they are just little toys and you can assign any stats you want to them? I feel like (meaning this is my own opinion and doesn't really matter I suppose )to make them fit more with their Lore they would be big centerpiece guys. It seems that they mercenary themselves out or get loured by chaos quite a bit, In Mordheim you could hire an ogre mercenary but and Ogre warband would be ridiculous. and to me Warcry is a less developed Mordheim and so there you have it.

I guess that's the problem I'm having with Ogres in general. They are basically an army of elites. even in warhammer fantasy we would call the brick of ogre bulls the "pain train" the only way you could deal with them was shooting them ****** out of them or magic them into submission in most cases BOTH! (dwellers below and a purple sun followed by some word of pain!) and even then it was super hard to do enough damage to make them manageable for your super elites to deal with. and that was their basic guys? I have loads of stories about how my Black guard or even my Harganeth Executioners got stomped by basic ogres.... let me say that again Basic troops stomped my elites on more than one occasion... so ya, that's just Ogres. They are and army of elites. I think they tried to make them more manageable in AOS but then just gave up. the Dirty Snowball thing is absolutely ridiculous and I guess is should be said point for point they are (or rather were ) savagely overpowered. I haven't read their new army book yet, My hope is they castrated the army and made it more manageable as a playable entity. the way it was before was borderline ridiculous. I watched an Ogre army table a fleet of Kharadron overlords before the overlords second turn. They only got one round of shooting and didn't kill anything. it was one of the worst games of AOS I think I have ever seen. to illustrate further, if you go onto GW site there really is only one unit of "basic guys" and suddenly everyone is an individual character or terrifying elite, the Man eaters are a one man army, so much so they are sculpted individually. Lead belchers shouldn't even be a thing. I remember talking to a GW rep who had said they regretted making half this army because in the right combinations they were pretty unstoppable. The thing is Lore-wise they really wouldn't be wandering around with one or two ogres in the Varenspire or even in a small warband. if there was something to conquer and eat then they would come in mass and crush everything in their path until they hit something they couldn't kill and eat. they are destruction after all. Game play they are just to over powered to be a warband in warcry? so ya This is why I don't feel like they even work at all in WarCry even the basic guys are super elites? thank you for coming to my Ted Talk 😛

I am using Photoshop, i'm a graphic designer so it's pretty easy for me i'm working on putting together a pdf of the stuff I've done so far

I actually did a lot of research on these guys, honestly I don't feel like they are even appropriate at all for warcry but I was asked to do it so there it is. I used the ogroid thaumaturge and the ogre from the Iron Golems as a base starting point. and both of them are about on par with what you see here. I tried to create a unit who's stats reflect it's lore, not going to far overboard. this isn't a unit based on optimal game play it's a unit based on what an Ogre would really look and act like in this kind of a setting ogres are big and slow compared to other smaller faster things. I get that what we are dealing with here is the plebs of their vanguard in AOS but in warcry we don't deal in elites so these guys need some measure of weakness and lets face it they aren't that fast when compared to Idoneth, Daughters of Khaine or even Stormcast hell just about every other war-band would be faster than them, because in this setting they don't need to be fast. so to reflect this they have a lower speed in the game. Also compared again to other rank and file of the AOS world these guys hit like beasts and most other races (even Orks )give the ogres a wide birth on principle. they know how hard these guys hit. mostly based on their size. they are HUGE so this gives them a longer reach thus the 2" range it just makes sense they are bigger and can reach further. seeing as to how a typical war-band is around a thousand points, this would mean that you would only really be able to bring two ogres, the cat and about 7 gnoblars. or you can sacrifice the gnoblars and bring another cat but probably not another Ogre. If you bring three ogres that's pretty much your whole warband you will loose almost every mission especially against grots or daughters of Khaine or really anyone who can bring bodies and out maneuver you. A lot of the missions are get your guys here first or grab that objective or get more objectives than your opponent. Ogres are going to SUFFER badly in this capacity. they just don't have the numbers. Gnoblars are so weak that they can't really be effective at anything other than gabbing stuff and running. if they get stuck in they get wiped out. this means that the Ogres (of which there will most often only be two) have to hit like a runaway freight train the cat is only there for interception and pinning purposes but won't be able to hold it's own if it's ganged up on and the gnoblars are ONLY for grabbing objectives as they can be one shotted by most of the other units in almost every other warband. Warcry is a super tactics and mostly Luck game and again I don't think Ogres really belong here as a warband but this was the best I could come up with.

I did the same thing LOL I was working on finishing this one tomorrow. I haven't fiished the abilities yet that's the only thing left to do...

here's the dirty pirates all but compleeted I need to correct the spelling and fix the legendary fighter that's not supposed to be there LOL!!

I sat stunned, I didn't do anything, I just kind of sat looking at Age of Sigmar like what just happened. in 1981 as a nine year old kid, I walked along a pale autumn day on the bay-front of Bath Maine, I was with my father, he was home from deployment in the military and this was a rare occasion in my young life. we stumbled into a Local Friendly gaming store. there were two gentlemen playing warhammer fantasy on a giant table that must have been a mile long!! ok I was 9 it wasn't really that big but it seemed like it to me. the thing is the two guys were complete pretentious JERKS which from what I understand wasn't uncommon. sadly one of them was the store owner (again not uncommon back then). but it didn't matter, I was hooked. with enough Daddy please!! I walked out with a mix box of dark elf spear-men and what would become dark shards. my father got the high elves and it was on! for years after my father and I would play when ever he was home from deployment, but I started taking my army to other local stores and from there things just got out of hand. sure I thought I could handle it, like I was in control but if I was honest with myself I was lost to the Drucii and all things dark elf, I mean really who needs 4 war hydras not me!! I can walk away at any time.... I can quit maybe just not today because chariots! and there I was in the back tables going up against empire blokes, pulling weekenders at friends houses ! I didn't know how bad it had gotten I couldn't see it unitl green skins. I had an idea for an all Goblin Troll army and then I made my first ever ebay purchase! I was ducking down back alleys free basing goblins, there wasn't enough greenstuff on the planet to get my goblin conversions the way I wanted.... I had a problem. I tried warhammer re-hab more commonly called marriage, there was this thing called Adulting that people were trying but it never really worked for me. then it happened, age of sigmar. I couldn't believe it, in a single night and a day my 500+ goblin army was gone. All my dark elves were eaten and the end times wasn't just some marketing ploy to get me to buy more models, because I didn't really need an excuse just a paycheck! but no the end was really the end and I sat looking back over the years of my my life .... good times! but now what? there was a voice in the back of my mind saying, wait. just wait. it can't stay like this? can it? sure I tried 9th age, but it just wasn't the same. it was like using pseudoephedrine pe it just doesn't work like the old stuff. again came the voice wait GW isn't trying to commit suicide they know what their doing just wait. and then it happened ! the generals handbook! suddenly age of Sigmar was an actual game. and then something even more miraculous I heard the cry of the witches! the daughters of Khaine and Big Mo was re-born More incredible than I would have ever imagined!! but the silent whispers that I had been hearing started getting louder and I felt the tide shift .... the bad moon was rising!! and now My Goblins are BACK BABY!! that's right and 'ol Grossel Snogg the Iron Hook is back in business!! only now he's got some real nasty in his can! So I say age of sigmar bring it on! Now I sit like a black dragon of Naggeroth waiting to see what has become of Malerion and the rest of the dark ones! .... it's gonna be good...

OK so this is attempt 3 to post this, Hi i'm Aaron from Twitter, Im not super good at this so If im ****** it all up please forgive me LOL I make Homebrew warbands and such for warcry. I find the units that are probably not going to be added but should be and make warbands for them. I was told I should post all this stuff here so .... here it is. this is a Work In Progress so let me know if there is a warband I am missing I'll add them in. This is going to be a right proper PDF when I am done, with some new warbands, some monsters and beasts as well as a scenario or two and some really poorly written fiction... by myself as I don't have anyone else writing for me LOL!!! I'm hoping to get the Black Ark Corsairs finished today and the Ogres by tomorrow then I will comb the worlds for more monsters and beasts to add just becuase its super fun to have critters mulling about randomly in your warcry games. ALSO it should be said that all this is owned by GW and this is all just fan art of a sort, if they even look at me funny this will all go away! so get it while it's hot LOL!!