Banshee1978

I need some help..i started with the soulblight army just because i have warhammer cursed city and painted all models:) so now i bought a few additional units and models but would really love to bring a couple of the wq models back to the table without taking“all“. Anyone who has an estimate for each member of that big group of 755 points? Its just for games with friends and you guys might have enough experience to make an estimate

If they add another layer of rules (unit, subfaction,faction,spells,items,terrain already do exist) it will get more complicated and you need to memorise even more possible modifiers and actions. but I assume they just couldnt rewrite 1000 warscroll cards or 30 battletomes to reduce that complexity. Easier to just add another generic layer on top:/

For me the rules of the core book are fine the way they are. The rules of the units on the other hand are not. If you are a player who plays once a month its nearly impossible to remember all the special buffs, rerolls, special circumstances where you get a bonus or malus etc. Even with exce lists aos reminder sheets , warscroll cards etc most of the time you dont play or make tactical descisions or even roll dice. Instead you have to fly through your documentations or search desperately within your memory for the „one special rule which might give a +1 on save but only if charged or was it just rerolls if you roll a one or was there a ignore rend -1 or did i have a second save but only against missles?“ or do I stand close to a wood which gives -1 to shooting? Are damn too late we already do save rules maybe next time but good to know that my opponent forgot that when he throws a 6 on to hit he scores two hits and if the player of the unit makes 10 squats he makes three.. thats where I see AOS not casual player friendly and not very transparent for anybody. Here is where they would have to streamline the effects and in general solve more by using faction specific rules (or even extent the core rules like they want to do „all units with keywords monaters can do the following“ you could do the same by introducing new keywords for a specific role (warmachines/cavalary etc) and pimp them a little more faction specific by adding some buff to this type of unit But you stay away from adding 1000 rules to each unit and focus on keywords and stats instead

I think AOS is quite simpel in terms of basic rule set. But as easy as the basic rules are the dozens of special abilities,buffs rerolls etc make the game tough to master. In the early days you could quickly play different armies as only equipment and statistics were changing. Nowadays you have to use AOS reminders for you army to have any chance at all to remember everything. At least as long as you play just a game per month and like to try out several armies.

I always wondered: two different designers at work? One doing all the miniatures of the starter box. The other who has done teclis and the cow guys?

Could it really be: a complete new army where you have like 3 kits and only a couple of models in 2000 pts? Sounds..strange:)

Yea the base is a wait in progress until I get new basing stuff;)

Here are some examples. Definetely nothing to win a painting contest with but i think and most people agree makes the game 10 times more immersiv as playing with grey plastic or even with just base coloring them with normal colors. Even if you look closer (above from the battlefield player perpective) I am still proud and dont think i need to hide my guys or feel ashamed. And btw:it still takes many hours to complete them even with contrast

I have to agree. I have now painted 1500 pts of ogors/sylvaneth/fyreslayers/kharadron/daughters/ossiarch nearly exclusively with contrast except for metallics and i love it. i always had a hard time highlighting thin lines as my hands are not<calm>enough and if i tried often it ruined stuff. Therefore before contrast i painted a couple of armies with a similar technique using lahmian medium.

I bet there will be a new start collecting box seraphon like slaves of darkness with new saurus warriors, knights and hero on foot

If you have the Aether Wars start set, what would be the next step to build an army around that force? When I start a new army i prefer to have as many different units and models as possible (and still make a reasonable list) and i hate to paint too many models from one kind.:)

Something tells me it will be hard to sell of the tzeench part of the upcoming box..

Manowar returns;)

DaMn it. i started lasr november with soul wars..one year later: 3000 pts Stormcast 2000 pts nighthaunt 2000 pts Seraphon 1500 pts Sylvaneth 1500 pts Idoneth all painted so i wanted to take it slow.. and concentrate on daughters of khaine kharadon overlords and fyreslayers now feast of bones added two more armies i love.... now chaos std for my warcry...its enough:)

I actually dont see the price tag the issue but the amount of time you have to build and paint. Even with contrast if you want to play with or display miniatures in tabletop quality ,time is the limiting factor per customer. I could purchase hundreds of miniatures. But for what use? I would never get them done. I hate playing with grey stuff(never do) because if the game is more important than the look and feel of real achievement/art than i could really just play a computer game