KhorneySteve
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I completely agree, already want to try out the other subfactions as the artefact for Null Myriad is very powerful and the ability of Stalliarch lords is also very good. Just find it interesting as since release all I've heard is people complaining about Petrifex when the majority of them this weekend have yielded average results. I also have a local Sylvaneth player who has beaten them every time he's played them.
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I've tried arguing the point that stats are going to be slightly inflated for them as they are a completely new army, yes Petrifex is powerful but it's far from unbeatable. Just trying to establish if we will see some big nerfs to them or not
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Any results for bonereapers yet?
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I don't actually have Arkhan as never really felt the need for him, dedo going to look into that second list though and was looking at a crawler for the sniping of heroes
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Now this I like, not too much from my build pile either so reckon I could easily have it ready for then, also thinking Petrifex is going to be the best against them as well. Was debating Katakros but not used him yet so unsure how survivable he is.
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I'm due to be fighting Nighthaunt next week but its 1.5k with 3 battle lines so proving very difficult to write a list for especially as I'm trying to fit a battalion in there as well. Also unsure what legion to run (if any) any help appreciated.
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Haha looks like I'm famous 😂
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As always I'll reserve judgement for when I've seen the whole book but it does look like Khorne has been screwed hard by Slaanesh.
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I've also found this, what's even worse is that if you run multiple Bloodthirsters they struggle choosing which one to commit to! Especially in smaller points games there's very little the armies I've played can do against me. My current 1k list is WoK, IR, 30 Bloodletters and 5 Flesh Hounds.
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So from my experience it sounds like you did all you could and were possibly just unlucky. Keep at it and tweak your list to try different things. I'll have a think and see if I can think of any pointers (in the middle of a 24 hr paintathon, so pretty tired right now)
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Pretty much the same has happened to me when I was using bloodreavers and blood warriors, I now run Bloodletters as my main battleline and then currently either 5 Flesh Hounds and/or Blood Warriors depending on the size of the game being played. I've then swapped out Bloodsecrator for a Daemon hero (Skulltaker or Bloodmaster) as they move at the same pace as Bloodletters and give them the re roll 1s to hit, as that's more beneficial than the extra attack. Did you use any blood tithe abilities at all?
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Dude I've been playing since January and I've lost all but 2 games as Khorne, what else were you running? Did you use any blood tithe points? What could you have done differently? I tend to run almost all daemon lists as they synergise together well, especially with the locus of fury ability. Bloodreavers in particular I find to be really bad.
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I ran Tyrants against Ironjawz the other day, it was 2k so my list was as follows Tyrants of Blood (140) Skarbrand (400) WoK (320 IR (280) Skulltaker (120) Slaughter priest (100) Slaughterpriest (100) 30 Bloodletters (300) 5 Flesh Hounds (100) 5 Blood Warriors (100) Hexgorger Skulls (40) Altar of Skulls (0) I made WoK my general and ran bloodlords so he had Halo of Blood and +4" movement+re roll charges, I then gave IR the artefact that gives +1 rend and took Killing Frenzy and bronzed flesh as my blood blessings. It ended up being a very close game largely because we were in the realm of beasts so my opponent had a Rogue idol as a wandering beast and that thing wiped out my Bloodletters (although they did 10 wounds back) Also using Blood tithe abilities proved pretty important as I used murderlust in his hero phase to do some free damage with my IR bloodthirster on his Maw Krusha which killed it off and saving my bloodthirster.
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I ran that exact set up in tyrants yesterday in a 2k game and I ran 5 Blood Warriors, 5 Flesh hounds and 30 Bloodletters. I used blood lords and gave the Halo of blood to WoK and then gave the +1 rend artefact to IR. I set the Flesh hounds and Blood Warriors up together, charged the Flesh hounds ahead and had blood warriors following behind to block my enemy (took 3 battle rounds for them to be wiped out) Oh and turn one of combat IR dealt a total of 32 wounds, 16 on the unit he faced in front of him, and 4 to 3 other units that were within 8" thanks to Outrageous carnage.
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How come you're looking at splitting them up? For me they work best at 30 strong as your enemy has to kill 11 or more for you to lose the +1 to hit bonus. I've been playing since February so about 2 months now and probably played 20 or so games. It really does depend on what you're up against but my Bloodletters have improved significantly with the new book and have become my most reliable battleline unit. Hence why I'm now looking at buying another 20 of them so I can have two units of 30. I've managed to buff them effectively with Wrathmongers in the 2 games I ran them and they have a smaller bubble than the Bloodsecrator so can't see it being too much of an issue.
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I don't really run Bloodsecrator or Wrathmongers that much any more, but when I have done it hasn't been so hard to get the Bloodletters wholly within. Generally speaking though I don't think a unit of 30 needs the extra attack, especially with the re roll ones to hit and a hit roll of 6 being a mw plus normal damage is really good imo. Same goes for the Bloodthirster of Insensate Rage, I've found the +1 rend artefact on him to be really useful (gives him - 3 rend) It's also worth keeping an eye on Blood tithe points as some of the abilities on the table are nasty in the right situation, in my game today I used murderlust in my opponents hero phase which enabled my Insensate Rage to hit his Maw Krusha again and kill it before it had a chance to hit me again. I'm only pointing this out as I generally save up blood tithe to summon Daemons. All in all I'm moving to a virtually all Daemons list, my 1k List is going to be Skulltaker, Insensate Rage Bloodthirster and 2x30 Bloodletters, 2k I run Tyrants with WoK, Insensate and Skarbrand.
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So for me as a relatively new Khorne player I always take a unit of 30 Bloodletters as my main battleline and either WoK Bloodthirster or Insensate Rage BT, depending on what size game is being played. I try and also take Skulltaker or Bloodmaster and put them with the Bloodletters for that locus of fury ability. Blood Warriors are quite tanky but I'm slowly phasing them out and replacing them with Bloodletters or Flesh Hounds as I've had more success with them than Blood Warriors. Slaughter priests with the altar are also really good at 100 points but only as support, mine have done next to nothing in combat.
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Oh wow that's an insane amount of damage, I'm picking Skarbrand up end of this week so this is great news!
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Probably being slow here but how have you got Skarbrand dealing that much damage?
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Thanks for clearing that up, I'll inform my local Warhammer shop that they're wrong 🙂
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Interestingly my local warhammer shop thinks that you can't buff Skarbrand to have extra attacks with carnage as it says "don't follow the normal attack sequence, instead roll a dice" They reckon because it states roll a single dice that's it, it doesn't say roll a dice per attack either so they could be correct. Thoughts?
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I don't believe we're now a defensive army at all, I'm miffed about some of the changes (Wrathmongers death making an enemy attack themselves) but I understand why it's changed as it streamlines it a bit. I think people have become far too dependent on certain elements that it's going to take time to adjust. For one I no longer view bloodsecrator as auto include and doubt I'll bother running Gore pilgrims. This allows us to open up our options and look at everything as a whole, which is no bad thing imo. I'm really excited for my next few games as I'm running totally different lists, which include some units I've never used before.
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Further on from that I love the lore behind Skarbrand and Skulltaker, Skarbrand really showcases Khornes rage/Wrath for (his strongest attack took a ****** out of Khornes armour, so he picked Skarbrand up, choked all thought and reason from him before hurling him across all of creation) The lore in this book is amazing and I also don't read the novels so pretty much only get lore from battletome.
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Yeah I've seen people all over complaining that our new tome is op, yet some people here complain it's the exact opposite. Yes things have changed but that's a good thing imo, I'm excited to try out new lists and learn what works and what doesn't. I'm picking Skarbrand up this week as well so will be up to almost 5k worth of points, definitely not prepared to change armies at this stage.
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So my list for a friendly 1.5k game on Tuesday is as follows Wrath of Khorne Bloodthirster 320 Skulltaker 120 Slaughterpriestx2 200 Bloodsecrator 140 30xBloodletters 300 10xBloodletters 110 5xFlesh Hounds 100 5xWrathmongers 140 Wrath Axe judgement 60 Altar of Skulls Total 1470 The idea being that Skulltaker and the regiment of Bloodletters will move up in formation with Wrathmongers behind and Bloodsecrator behind them, a potential 91 attacks hitting on 3s wounding on 3s and re rolling 1s 1 of the Slaughter priests will hang back at the altar praying for blood sacrifice on the unit of 10 bloodletters. Hopefully roll a few 1s in battleshock for that unit and keep them supplying blood tithe. The other Slaughterpriest will move up with the judgement, and the WoK plus Flesh hounds will charge up the board. Any thoughts or anything you would do differently?
