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Everything posted by Aleister

  1. Absolutely, he is most interested in my Flesheater Courts army, however, so I have that decided. I almost have my mind made up at this point, thanks
  2. Hello, I am considering starting a 2nd AOS army. I have recently got in with Flesheater Courts, but I want another army so my son and I can play at home. I am deciding between Seraphon and Sylvaneth. What about this for a starter list? I like all the Seraphon units, just trying to start from SC boxes and my favorite models (Kroak and EOTG). I will also buy 2 boxes of Skinks for summoning. I hopefully need a list that can take on my Flesheaters, but I realize FEC is pretty strong right now. As FEC I have been playing mostly Crypt Horrors and Ghouls, with one ZD or TG, I can go full Gristlegore but I tend to stay away from that so not full-on OP. Allegiance: SeraphonMortal Realm: GhurLeadersLord Kroak (450)Engine of the Gods (220)Saurus Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur (240)- WarbladeSlann Starmaster (260)Battleline5 x Saurus Knights (90)- Blades20 x Saurus Warriors (200)- Spears5 x Saurus Knights (90)- Blades5 x Saurus Knights (90)- BladesBattalionsFirelance Starhost (150)Endless Spells / TerrainBalewind Vortex (40)Chronomantic Cogs (60)Total: 1890 / 2000Extra Command Points: 3Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 89
  3. I didn't do it exactly like this guy did it, but I did start by checking out his video:
  4. I took this to my LGS' tournament this Saturday. We only had 6 people turn out, a lot of folks that had been in the escalation league couldn't make it. I didn't partake in the league, so these were my first games total. Round 1 vs. Beasts of Chaos So we played a mission with 3 objectives along centerline, roll a D3 each round to see which one is worth 3 VP, other 2 are worth 1. My opponent had lots of 2x3 Daemon Ogres, 2x1 of the Leader Daemon Ogre guy, 2x Chimeras, and 10 of the battleline dudes that get +1 attack on the charge. I gave him first turn, and he made a dash for all the objectives, claiming them. His 10 shrimpy dudes were alone on one flank, with 10 of my ghouls on the other side. My 6 horrors came into the middle objective, against 3x Daemon Ogres and 1 of the Daemon Ogre Leader guys. My other ghouls and GKoZD took the other flank, which was the 'major' objective for the round. I summoned 2x Varghulf's on the 'major' objective flank as well. Zombie Dragon gets Spectral Host cast on him, Runs + Charges into all of my opponent's guys at the objective. Attack + Feeding Frenzy wiped all his dudes that were there. My Horrors charged into the Ogres + Ogre Leader Guy (General) in the middle, killed a few and took some damage. 2nd turn, he got his Chimaeras and charged to join his remaining Ogres. They killed some Horrors, but then on my turn the Varghulfs brought them all back and then I killed everything he had at mid except one Chimera, other than that all he had left was his 10 battleline guys that were tangoing with 10 of my ghouls still on the far flank. At this point he conceded. We were talking about how Feast Day working on every turn instead of once per Battle Round seemed pretty powerful. Round 2 vs. Fyreslayers, Vostarg lodge For this mission there were 2 objectives on the centerline, worth 2 VP each, one in each home base worth 1 / 4 VPs for yours / theirs. This match was less one-sided. He had 10 Hearthguard, 10 Vulkites, and 5 Heroes - a leader with a big key-hammer, a Runepriest, another Rune-something, and a guy with a big axe that fights again if he dies. One of the rune guys was giving everything nearby a 4++ and there was also an aura giving +1 save. Somehow there was +1 hit / +1 wound deal going on too, I don't remember. This guy chose first turn, he had +2 move on his guys and got onto center objectives. I protected my home objective with 10 ghouls, sent everything else to one objective with 10 Hearthguard and 4 of the heroes (all buy the axe guy that fights when dead). I summoned 2x Varghulfs to this area as well, I have read Hearthguard are uber and I wanted to have an advantage in the fight. I got Spectral Host onto my GKoZD again but I couldn't get a good enough Run to make it over the Hearthguard and into his heroes; at the time I wanted to save my CP for a 2nd Feeding Frenzy on my Horrors that were going to make it into combat, but I wonder now if I should have used the command trait to make the Dragon run a full 6, which possibly would have gotten me behind his Hearthguard and into his heroes. My ZD and Horrors fighting twice into his Hearthguard went pretty bad - he made a lot of saves and then his 4++ took care of almost all of the remaining damage. On his turn 2, he obliterated my ZD and killed 5/6 Horrors. I brought the Horrors all back with Muster but then he wiped them on his turn 3. His 10 Vulkites and Axe guy on the far flank went into my zone and wiped the 10 Ghouls easily. The Horror's rend 0 hurt some this game. However, in hindsight I think I should have summoned one of my Varghulf's to his back objective, which could have helped me to either win via points or get him to split his forces some; I had also forgotten the +3 attacks buff I got on my Varghulf at a clutch moment. He won, it was a close game overall and very fun. Round 3 vs. Khorne This match had 2 objectives in each of our zones, worth 1 / 4 VPs for yours / theirs. He had 2x 20 of the Berserker looking guys, 10 Reavers, a Bloodsecrator, 2 Slaughterpriests, and a Bloodthirster. Like in other games, we both had the majority of our forces opposing each other one one flank, I had 10 Ghouls on the other flank but he fully committed to one side. My opponent chose 1st turn, and used a command ability to give one of his Berserker's a movement boost + Run and Charge. This got this group Berserkers, which had been buffed to +3 save and was hitting on 2+, rerolling 1s, into combat with my Horrors and Ghouls. He couldn't get all his guys into combat but the ones that did killed 3 of my Horrors and a few of my Ghouls. On my turn, I summoned Varghulfs in and Mustered everything back. I mostly eliminated the engaged unit of Berserkers. My ZD was able to fly over and charge his BT (which ignored Rend), taking it down to 2 Wounds and my ZD going down to 3. At this point, he was made that his BT was already almost dead (although my ZD was too) and he didn't like that his Berserkers didn't destroy twice their points in models. He ended up conceding shortly after and claiming that FEC are overpowered no matter what you run, not just Gristlegore. Ok, whatever. I think he should not have advanced his Berserkers ahead of the rest of his force, and instead waited on me to charge him. For myself, I had been so scared of the BT that I committed everything to the fight, but I should have summoned one unit at his far objective, which was undefended and worth 4 VP a turn. Truthfully, I probably had a right to be scared of the BT, but he had terrible save throws unfortunately for him - he was ignoring Rend with either a Trait or a Relic (?) but couldn't make any 4+s. As a side note, regarding Horrors/Flayers - magnetizing them is easy, just don't do the arms. Put the upper torso and arms together for Horrors, same for Flayers, have the chest/lower torso and Legs together, put a magnet inside the torso at the stomach area.
  5. So, I have done a lot of lurking and some commenting on here, but have not actually played a game of AOS yet. That's about to change, my first games will be played at a 1250 pts tourney this weekend (no worries, I love 'trial by fire' and have played 40k for a few years and I've also been reading a lot). Here's my list, I will let you know how it goes. I have 2x Varghulf Courtiers to summon, no other options, as it has taken all my spare time to build and paint this: 1200/1250 points Delusion: Feast Day LEADERS Abhorrant Archregent (200) - General - Command Trait : Dark Wizardry - Artefact : The Dermal Robe - Lore of Madness : Spectral Host Abhorrant Ghoul King on Royal Zombie Dragon (440) - Lore of Madness : Blood Feast - Mount Trait : Razor-clawed UNITS 6 x Crypt Horrors (320) 10 x Crypt Ghouls (100) 10 x Crypt Ghouls (100) ENDLESS SPELLS Chalice of Ushoran (40) For spell choice, I went with Spectral Host for my ZD and 2x Varghulfs (summoned), could also be good with Horrors sometimes - at first I was going to use Deranged Transformation but it's only good with Horrors in this list and wouldn't be useful if they are focused down. Blood Feast's range is fine because I'm nosediving the ZD into everything anyway. In lieu of ZD having an artefact, I thought Razor-Clawed might be sufficient.
  6. Awesome, sorry about that. I haven't caught up on the FAQs, the wording in the codex made me think I should run different Leaders with differently-named Summon abilities so I could use them all in one turn. The Courtiers' resurrection abllities are more clear.
  7. You can't use a Summon ability of any given name more than once per turn.
  8. I think you have the models for Blisterskin if you want to run it, and it would be good. +2" movement is good for everything, not just Flayers, and you don't have to do all Flayers for your Battleline just because you can. You could do: 1 GKoTG 1GKoZD 1 Archregent Infernal Couriers 6x Flayers 3x Flayers 40x Ghouls 10x Ghouls Just a rough list. You have some aggressive fliers that you can use the Blisterskin Command Trait on if you want, and all your stuff likes +2" move especially if you also get Cogs. Have the 40x Ghouls go murder stuff and the 10x Ghouls cap objectives. Or you could do 20 and 10 for the Ghouls, reserving the last 20 to bring in with Archregent, and cap lots of objectives while just slaying with the fliers.
  9. Well, before I knew these things, I had been debating if it was worth it to save cp by keeping my monsters near the Throne turn 1, or if it was better to just go ahead and get them into the fray. Now I don't even have to debate it, at least.
  10. Does it not say Abhorrant Ghoul King? The warscroll download from GW does (and I assume it's pretty up to date since the Charnel Throne is a new model), and so does my Battletome. I wouldn't be surprised if GW flubbed somewhere 😛
  11. The Warscroll for Charnel Throne names, in bold, both Abhorrant Archregent and Abhorrant Ghoul King as models that can summon without spending a CP. So while the ghoulies may not benefit from it while riding, they definitely should when on foot.
  12. Seriously? That sucks, I thought a GK was a GK whether he rode on something or not (makes sense to me) but I suppose it is referring to the specific warscrolls. Well, I may wait to build my Throne then since I have a huge backlog.
  13. Regarding Terrorgheist being better than Zombie Dragon, can someone break that down for me? It seems like they are very similar in combat, I prefer the ZD's shooting since it works even against high bravery, you can't cast the same spell twice in a turn (right?) so having 2 different signature spells could be handy, and having one of each let's you use both of their summon abilities the first turn. So far I am running one GK on ZD, another on TG, and an Archregent - setting them up within 1" of my Charnel throne allows me to use 3 different summoning abilities the first turn (different names) so I start off with an extra Courtier, 3 more knights, and whatever the Archregent wants to call out.
  14. Maybe play Morghaunt with 120+ Ghouls in groups of 40, using Feeding Frenzy for killing and the Morghaunt Command Ability to bring a unit of 40 back to full strength if it wasn't totally destroyed... Combine that with Stampede and Blood Feast for direct damage, using Barricade and Shackles to keep some of the Monks at bay?
  15. You should look into magnetizing your Horrors/Flayers so you can do either. Glue the chest and the legs together in one part, and the back and arms/wings together in another part, with a magnet in the abdomen. It's a little tricky, but works great when you get it worked out. With a little sawing and drilling, you can also make the head on your Terrorgheists magnetized so you can switch between it and Zombie Dragon. Vids on Youtube...
  16. Well, Horticulous Slimux was in a boxed set, so seems reasonable.
  17. Thanks! I have a lot to learn... Battletome in the mail! I can see moving the Corpsefane Gauntlet to my Haunter, I didn't realize the rule about making it a scoring unit. Regarding Zombie Dragons over Terrorgheists, I was reading on 1d4chan and it looked like the ZD version would let you summon Vharghuls and stuff and that the TG version doesn't. I will confirm when I get my BT I guess, and then consider what to do. I will probably swap out one of my monsters for more ghouls sometimes, as I acquire more models I will vary my list from time to time. I'm going to magnetize the monsters so I can take the riders off and use them on foot when desired...
  18. Yes, that's some seriously powerful luck on your opponent's part!
  19. If I were to go this route (and it is a second list I'm thinking of compared to the list I posted above), I would move up to 120 Ghouls for 3 squads of 40 and run a Morgaunt Ghoul Patrol list. I think it would be awesome especially with Cogs and Chalice.
  20. Thanks for pointing out the Command Trait limitation. Considering this, I will likely make my General have Grave Robber and the Hollowmourne artefact, with the intention of taking out enemy Heroes. I will switch Blood Feast to him so he can stay healthy, and move the Dermal Robe and Deranged Transformation to the other flier, who I may make a Terrorgheist instead of dragon zombie. I do really like Death from the Skies, but it seems like I have ample ways to get my guys up the board between Deranged Transformation and Ravenous Crusaders, so making my dudes more killy does sound like a good idea. Thanks for the tips!
  21. Hey there, I am a new AoS player trying to pick my faction. I really, really, really like FEC and I'm pretty sure they are going to be my 'bad guy' army to start with (I started 40k with Black Templars and Death Guard, a 'good guy' and a 'bad guy' 😛 ). Allegiance: Flesh Eater Courts- Grand Court: HollowmourneMortal Realm: ShyishLeadersAbhorrant Ghoul King on Royal Zombie Dragon (440)- General- Trait: Dark Wizardy - Artefact: The Dermal Robe - Lore of Madness: Deranged Transformation- Mount Trait: Death from The SkiesCrypt Haunter Courtier (120)Abhorrant Ghoul King on Royal Zombie Dragon (440)- Artefact: Splintervane Brooch - Lore of Madness: Blood Feast- Mount Trait: Death from The SkiesBattleline10 x Crypt Ghouls (100)6 x Crypt Horrors (320)6 x Crypt Horrors (320)BattalionsAbattoir (120)Endless SpellsChalice of Ushoran (40)Chronomantic Cogs (60)Total: 1960 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 92 Basically, the plan is to use Deranged Transformation to boost a unit of Horrors up the field, or both if I'm lucky, and use Death from the Skies on both my dragon riding guys to get them up there too. I will summon a Varghulf Courtier with my General in most cases. Chalice keeps my guys beefy and Cogs helps me close in even more. Abattoir seems like a good battalion choice, as hordes look to have a lot of power and I was hoping to keep a cap on how out of hand they can get. I would greatly appreciate any feedback before I start dropping money on this. I don't necessarily want to roll everyone, I was hoping to have a strong list for casual-competitive games that I could also take to a tournament every once in a while without getting pwnt.
  22. Hello! I'm interested into getting into AoS, been playing 40k a few years and the AoS models looks cool and the game seems fun from what I've seen. I am thinking of going with Sylvaneth, mostly because Alarielle is an awesome model and my wife digs the army a lot (trying to turn her into a psuedo gamer, haha). I'm really not sure what I want in my Alarielle build, I'm trying to figure out what is 'good'. I can't afford to splurge on all the models and test all of them out right now, I'd like to start off with a decent list. I don't want to be an uber powergamer with a WAC mentality, but I don't want to get rolled either. From what I understand, there are a lot of Death players in my area, especially Nighthaunt, but I think the local meta is fairly diverse. So, I've created two lists that are both just -slightly- over on points, 2010 and 2020 respectively. No Endless Spells in them either, which is also a bummer. I can't figure out what to cut, and as I agonize on these choices, in the end I keep asking myself 'Which of these lists should I even play?' I feel like deciding on a list would help me commit to cutting the last few points and moving forward. I was hoping to see what you folks think about these two lists in terms of 1. Fun, 2. Strength, 3. What I should cut/changes I should make. List 1: Allegiance: OrderMortal Realm: GhyranLeadersAlarielle the Everqueen (600)- General- Deepwood Spell: RegrowthTreelord Ancient (300)- Artefact: The Silverwood Circlet - Deepwood Spell: The ReapingBranchwych (80)- Artefact: Seed of Rebirth - Deepwood Spell: Verdant BlessingBattlemage (120)- Specialisation: JadeBattleline10 x Dryads (100)10 x Dryads (100)5 x Tree-Revenants (80) Units3 x Kurnoth Hunters (200)- Greatswords3 x Kurnoth Hunters (200)- GreatswordsBattalionsHousehold (100)Gnarlroot Wargrove (130)Total: 2010 / 2000Extra Command Points: 2Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 93 Concept: I originally wanted Lord Kroak as my Order Wizard (Gnarlroot Wargrove) because he is insane, I was struggling very much to fit him in with Alarielle too without diluting my list overly much. The Battlemage seems pretty cool and definitely cheap. For this list, I'm mostly hoping to maximize the Kurnoth's, regenerating and healing them, while Alarielle smashes. I'm not sure that I should go with 'The Reaping' with Treelord Ancient or not, but my biggest concern with this list is having too few Battleline models. List 2: Allegiance: SylvanethMortal Realm: GhyranLeadersAlarielle the Everqueen (600)- General- Deepwood Spell: RegrowthBranchwraith (80)- Artefact: Ranu's Lamentiri Branchwraith (80)- Artefact: Acorn of the Ages - Deepwood Spell: Verdant BlessingSpirit of Durthu (380)Battleline30 x Dryads (270)30 x Dryads (270)10 x Dryads (100)BattalionsForest Folk (140)Harvestboon Wargrove (100)Total: 2020 / 2000Extra Command Points: 2Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 108 Concept: Basically, swamp the board with Dryads, teleporting them around and tarpitting the board, while summoning more Dryads to flood onto objectives (since it takes a few turns for them to get into charge range, I thought this would be the best strategy with the summons). Alarielle and Durthu kill everything, ideally. I like this list because it seems important to have plenty of objective grabbers, but I'm not sure if I'm going overboard. I appreciate any help, thanks!
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