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Hammers is very hard to pass up. 12” range covers most of the board, and even if it doesn’t it you want to be on/near objectives most of the time anyway. It also couples very nicely with high saves (*cough* vindictors, dragons) and in stormkeeps, where your redeemers are tanky and x3 scoring. Last night I was looking strongly at Hallowed Knights for Gardus, but now I’m thinking: Knight Draconis lord Relictor bastian 3x2 Stormdrake 1 Stormdrake 10x Vindictors

I will if GW would sell them to me!

People who might have to play tooth and nail because GW keep writing it and TOs keep writing it into event packs

Don’t hate the player. I’d happily use other units if, you know, GW hadn’t just made most of them complete garbage, left some of them playable, then put one unit in that is head and shoulders better than the rest.

This is exactly what will happen, there’s still some 40k ork stuff missing. Then October is (get this) another flipping kill team release I hear.

****** sake sell me these dragons already. I have the 💰 you have the product, what more do you want from me?

If they increase SDG by 50 points they need to cut everything else by 25% minimum. Lord Exorcist 175 lmfao

They are extremely aggressively priced. Fly, move 12”, move in the hero phase and charge in the hero phase makes them super mobile MW shooting and can also shoot in the hero phase with a Knight draconis Monsters so count as 5 each for scoring, get rampages, and easy access to a ton of free VPs via battle tactics Lots of rend 2 damage 2 attacks which is great into save stacking super durable at 9 wounds and 3+. They can also hilariously get cover saves. They also ignore spells on a 4+ for… reasons. Theres just so much going on in this warscroll that I look at every multiple of 300 points now and think “this should be a stormdrake unit”

Units of 6 also have to be coherent with 2 models so you lost attacks quickly I think

List iteration mark 1: wait Gardus does what now? Stormkeep, hallowed knights Knight-draconis Gardus Relictor 10 vinds 10 vinds Stormdrake Stormdrake Praetors Lone stormdrake 1960

6 stormdrakes in a unit is going to be hell to position. Don’t do this to yourself

Krondys Knight draconis Knight draconis Stormdrake guard Stormdrake guard Stormdrake guard 1965 points 4 drops Ok Gw if you insist 🤷‍♂️

6+ 5 4 3 2 2+1 2+2 Blades 3.96 2.6136 2.6136 2.169288 1.724976 1.3068 0.862488 0.444312 0.444312 Lances charge 1.98 1.3068 2.6136 2.6136 2.169288 1.724976 1.3068 0.862488 0.444312 No charge lances 1.98 1.3068 1.3068 1.084644 0.862488 0.6534 0.431244 0.222156 0.222156

For the same reason that Gav bombs struggled: screening and tooth and nail.* I don’t see more tools to remove screens and you want tooth and nail in the battleplan because kruleboyz are going to be pushing your stuff into reserve. *except there’s one more reason now as dragon knights exist and they are incredible

I’m still digesting this but… I see no reason not to go all in on knights draconis and stormdrake guard. These things are bonkers. Everything else is just… oof. Theres a gardus redeemers list, until someone kills gardus and it falls apart. Theres a double shot list that has one to at winning the game, then falls apart. Theres an annihilator Imperatant list that functions the same as gav bombs. Almost everything oldcast and sacrosanct got shafted. Heroes especially almost all lost something, got worse, or went up in price. Lord exorcist at 175. What is this madness.

No change from what I’ve heard

hammers of sigmar: 6+ ward while wholly within 12" of objective, battleline dracoth hallowed knights - REDEEMER units fight on a 4+ when they die anvils of the heldenhammer - at the end of the charge phase roll two dice for each enemy unit within 3", if you roll higher than their bravery ignore the first 2 damage they deal tempest lords - re-roll one of the dice when charging, battleline prosecutors astral templars - cant be effected by monstrous rampage knights excelsior - start of the combat phase pick a PALADIN unit it gets +1/+1, battleline PALADIN celestial vindicators - start of combat pick one unit, when it makes a hit roll of 6 it causes two hits instead for that phase celestial warbringers - once per phase a unit can reroll a hit, wound, or save roll

Dragonstrike

Good morning! Leaky Santa has visited in the night and you’re all on the good list 5 attacks 3+/2+/-3/2 4 attacks 3+/3+/-2/2 fire breath missile. 12" 3-4 d3 mortal wounds, 5-6 d6 mortal wounds 11 wounds, 3+ save. 255 points once per battle, pick a stormdrake guard unit, it can breathe fire in the hero phase at the end of the combat phase pick an enemy unit within 1". roll higher than its wounds, model is slain instantly. ignores spells on a 4+ makes stormdrake guard battleline

Stuff is leaking out of various chats and channels Big dragons 600 all warscroll CA deleted Knight-Azyros lost RR1s for +1 to hit chariot 165

That’s very attractive at that price point

Hot takes! chariot is garbage. No run/retreat and charge, pillow fisted attacks, bow is irrelevant, 12 wounds will jack the price up to 200+ Points dependant the judicator is sound. Rend 3 for ruining save stacking models, damage 3 to bully lone heroes, 2+ to wound, hit can be boosted to 2+, a once per game nuke (shame it’s instead of shooting) and comes with a free gryph hound unit for objective/screening/denying unleash hell.

Because people are writing lists to maximise those big hero pieces that best take advantage of save stacking.

Liberators are the worst unit to benefit from this. Vindictors, Sequitors and probably Vanquishers all have much better damage attacks.

I’ve heard rumour that there may be something to show off at the next big US event. Not sure what one that is but think there’s one in a few weeks?