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whoa, does this mean that they are consolidating daemons in AoS the same way they are consolidated in one book for 40K? Or do we think this is referring to the 40K book?

Mournfang are pretty damn good, hit like trucks on the charge and are beefy boys all around.

Honestly I just love throwing dice, and would be sad if they took away one of the rolls. Love the dopamine rush lol

God, a Gargant faction with trolls included would be amazing. Just inject that right into my veins.

Thanks, any suggestions for a strong gloss brush on varnish?

Yah, I would’ve used my rattlecan Corax white which has never failed me if the weather permitted. Unfortunately the damage is done, lesson learned. The paint job itself, while not the most durable, is gorgeous and I’m really reluctant to strip it and start over, so I I’m really asking if there is anything I can do now to make it more durable. Maybe a different varnish, or something else entirely I don’t know about. I’ve hit it with 2 brush on coats of Vallejo Matt primer, I cured the first coat for 4 hours and I’m gonna let the second coat sit for 24 hours. I’ll check tonight and see if it’s a bit better. Can I just keep applying varnish over and over to make it more durable ( so long as it doesn’t get cloudy), or with bum primer will it always chip? thanks

Hi, quick question. I primed my lord of change with a friends airbrush and a thin coat of Vallejo polyurethane white primer. We let it cure for 2 hours, and then airbrushed the basecoat Color of the model, followed by a light coat of airbrushed Vallejo varnish. I noticed this morning that I was able to scrape the paint right off the model using my finger nail, so I hit it with a heavy brushed on coat of Vallejo Matt acrylic varnish. After letting it cure for the recommended ( on the bottle ) 4 hours, I was still able to easily remove paint with my finger nail. I just put on another coat of the varnish, but is there anything else I can use to protect the paints integrity? I’m not sure another coat of the Matt varnish is going to be enough, and I really don’t want to repaint the models since the airbrush paint job turned out so beautiful. I intend on playing (and transporting) the model frequently so I’d like it to be reasonably durable. Suggestions are greatly appreciated, thanks!

2019 was an extremely productive year for me hobby-wise. I started up with AoS January 2019 after a 15 year hiatus from warhammer and started fresh with Gutbuster ogors. I bought, built, painted and based 2500 points of gutbusters, before I expanded into beastclaw raiders. I bought 3 start collecting BCR boxes and built, painted, and based those as well totalling 4500 points of Ogor Mawtribes done. Around september I started my second army, Daemons of Tzeentch, and have managed to finish building, painting and basing 2 full daemons of Tzeentch SC boxes, 20 blue horrors, 20 brimstones horrors for a total of 2000 points. Currently on my paint desk is Kairos Fateweaver, and I have in box another SC daemons of Tzeentch, as well as another 10 blue and brimstone horrors. My short term goal is to get Kairos painted, and finish building and painting my tzeentch. Hopefully by end of February that can be done, leaving me with 3000 points of finished daemons of Tzeentch. After that, I’m not sure what 2020 holds! I managed to game roughly once every 2 weeks in 2019, so it might be nice to get in even more gaming in 2020, but it’s tough with work and family. I did dig into all my old warhammer armies from the late 90s and I stripped down my Vampire Counts army (around 1800 points of legions of Nagash in modern value). I’ve managed to re-paint around 200 points of them, but the vast majority is just sitting primed and ready to go. I would like to finish them off in 2020, and run a retro army, but I’m super tempted to start an order army. I’ve been looking a lot at Idoneth or Cities of Sigmar living cities... but these pointy elves teasers definitely have my attention! Ahhh this hobby really is addicting. I think all things considered, 2020 looks good! My main resolutions then are to A) Finish my daemons of Tzeentch army B) Raise my painting skills to the next level ( right now I’m at a, in my opinion, very solid table top ready standard. I’d like to get even better ) C) Finish painting my retro Vampire Counts army D) Decide on an order army, and purchase and build / paint it one box at a time ( bulk purchases put a lot of pressure on you )!

Lol can you imagine you’re just a casual who came into that guys store to play a game of warhammer, and every person in the shop plays nothing but a 3+ keeper list. maybe these hyper competitive guys have actually found the correct way to balance the game. Only play against the same army. Must get pretty boring playing 3 keeper slaneesh against 3 keeper slaneesh over and over again though.

Where did you hear this? Or is this just a guess?

Hi there, i am ordering paints for my Pink horrors, and I want to do them very bright and “oldhammer” style. I am looking for suggestions on how to achieve this with brush and citadel paints. I’ve attached a photo of kinda what I’m going for. My plan is to do the following, please critique. Primed with Corax White Base coat of Emperors Children (2 thin coats... not sure if this will be enough though?? It’s a layer paint) Wash with carrobourg crimson and Lahmian medium 1:1 mix. Drybrush with fulgrim pink (maybe just edge highlights instead??) How does this sound? thanks for suggestions.

Darn, that makes them pretty bad I think. Thanks for the information.

I am seriously considering starting a GA Chaos army themed heavily around tzeentch. The models I want to include in the army would exceed the max ally points for a Disciples of Tzeentch army. The battleline for the army will be, however, 3 units of Pink Horrors. Pink Horrors know mystic shield and arcane bolt, but no other spells. Can they also take spells from the lore of change, since they have the tzeentch keyword, even though I am not running a tzeentch alliance army? if not, pink horrors are pretty neutered in a GA Chaos faction then right? Is there any other spells they could possibly cast? thanks,

Hmm... maybe ogors? Stitching is similar to ogor pants, plus Gargants wear pants quite similar to these.

Are yhetee models really that bad? What is so awful about them? They don’t seem too bad online in photos. Maybe I’m missing something, or just have poor taste lol.

This is true. Yhetees will allow you to pick the initiative in battle, it’s one of their skills. You can also retreat with them out of combat into within 6 inches of a different enemy unit, and pile in, making them able to jump around between engagements. Speaking of yhetees, does anyone know if the yhetee box comes with square or round bases?

Thank you! I have a question for you guys about yhetee unit size. Since yetis don’t get any specific point reductions or stat bonuses for larger unit sizes, is it better to run them in fast hit squads of 3 instead of 6? Also, I feel like since they can really dictate the order of combat with their pile in rules, it actually makes sense to have smaller units jumping in and out of combat all over the map. Thoughts?

I'm super excited, I picked up my first start collecting Beastclaw Raiders box yesterday! It looks like a fun box to build. My other army is a 2000 point gang of swamp themed Gutbusters, so I have some cool new options for allying as well. As you can tell, I really like Ogors lol. I posted a hypothetical 2k list in this thread recently, and modified it ever so slightly based on the comments. My new goal BCR list is: 1x Frostlord on Stonehorn 1x Huskard on Thundertusk w/ blood vulture 4x Mournfang w/ Gargant hackers 4x Mournfang w/ gargant hackers 6x Icefall Yhetees 6x Icefall Yhetees 2x Frost sabres 2x Frost sabres I think it will give me enough bodies to hopefully contest some objectives, but should still hit pretty damn hard. Will keep the thread updated as I paint up the army!

I actually really like Leadbelchers and try to take at least a 9 man unit in a 2000 point game. They are only 20 points more than regular ogors, but they have a great shooting attack and they have rend in both shooting and combat. The rend is so important, and has really delivered for me as regular ogors without rend can get tarpitted really easily by 4+ save units. The shooting is the icing on the cake, and on occasion can be really devastating. 9 of them eliminated an entire unit of 20 witch elves for me in one go for me once (they didn't move, and got off 34 shots).

Thanks for the input. He definitely will have the objective advantage, the board control of the BoC army is just insane. Unfortunately I only own 12 ogors, so I figured I should separate them into two groups to try and grab different objectives. Is a unit of 12 not very unwieldly? Never played them that large before. doubling up on the leadbelchers is a possibility though - but I think I may need grots to shield a gun line of that size. My original thought on the gorger and the maneaters was the added speed could help me keep up with the BoC. But now I think maybe I should just load up on heavy hitters and try and table him.

Hey guys, I’ve got a game coming up this weekend. Playing 1500 vs beasts of chaos. 2x bray shaman 1x cygor 1x gorghon 20x bestigors 20x ungors 2 units of tzaangor enlighrened 1 tzaangor shaman 3x bullgors Or something very close to this. It’s going to be much faster than me, with lots of deep strike capabilities. I’ve attached my list, wondering what you guys think? I’m worried I’m not going to be mobile enough, but I don’t have anything fast in my army. We will play an objective based game, so his speed, summoning and deep striking will be hard to deal with. Any general strategies or list comments? I also have more leadbelchers, Grots, and a giant at home I can sub in.

Christmas came early boys and girls!!!!!! Lookin good for a Gutbuster tome this year!!!!! Time to finish off my army! I’m thinking about adding 2 Gorgers for deployment shenanigans and speed. Anyone have any experience fielding one or two of them? Do they do better in pairs? also, I want to add some artillery in case I feel like going ranged heavy that day. I’m thinking an ironblaster and a scraplauncher so that I can field both, or either one depending on the army I’m facing. Are they too inaccurate to be useful? The ironblaster seems good if you can point it at a unit of 10+ (reroll hits) but the scraplauncher seems really weak only wounding on 4s with no reroll.

Hey BCR players, I’m looking at building up a BCR army and wanted your thoughts on this 2k list. 1x Huskard on Thundertusk w/ blood vulture (Everwinter master, pelt of charngar) 1x Stonehorn Beastriders w/ Chaintrap 4x Mournfang w/ Gargant hackers 4x Mournfang w/ Gargant hackers 6x Yhetees 6x Yhetees 6x Sabre tusks 4x Sabre tusks How do you think it will play? I didn’t want to focus just on behemoths, since I wanted to be able to actually compete over objectives. Additionally, this will be my second warhammer army. My first is a 2k Gutbuster army that I love, but they can be a bit slow and unwieldly at times. Do you guys think they are too similar? I know the models are very similar, but it looks like they play quite differently.

any word on greenskinz and gitmob Grots? Are they both dead in the water, or being reboxed and merged into one faction?

Whoa, how legit is the source for this rumour? Or is this just guessing? I’m dying for a Gutbuster battletome. Any other rumours out there swirling about Gutbusters?