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I think the Q was in regard to units which are 5 models or less. So, 5 knights comes back as what, 3? Seems odd. Its a diff matter with 10, coz maths.

Anyone happen to randomly have 5 old Brettonian plastic knights in a bits box? Or one for that matter? Looking to add to my existing 25 converted Black Knights which are a new battle line choice in Legion of Blood Dynasty. mmmmmmm 3 x 10 Black Knight units, backed up with 3 units of bloodknights, dogs and a flying Gribbly. These guys have been on my painting back burner for literally a decade now. I am all about running a pure cav army, these blood knights and wolves are gonna me so fun. IF I can find 5 more, lol.

Wholly within is a welcome change. It brings necessary parity and stops stupid tadpole units. My issue is having played TTS for the last year, I’ve become totally dependent on aura bubbles. It’s gonna be murderously hard come the first tournie.

I'm just gonna say it, I dont think we could have wished for anything better. We have really landed ourselves an absolutely awesome reimagining of our faction. Stunning new models and the new rules IMHO are just what we needed. I am proper stoked, and couldnt give a rats fig about the Gdub capitalist conspiracy theories to do with book splitting. Bring me toys.

thank you for reigning in the inevitable salt x

HOLY ****** https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/05/10/all-of-the-vampiric-bloodlines-are-noble-but-only-one-has-wolf-paws/

What makes you think that, and what part was weird? I'd imagine we will get almost exactly the same system, only this time they will be called Dynasties with each having one or more named characters leading them. The themes from LoN will probably port over, with the addition of a new one focussed on Wolves / beasts and the exclusion of Nagash's elite graveguard and black-knight focused one. I suspect they will be similar to before, with each one offering a different flavour of Vamp (Blood Knights and Heroes).

Not saying it wouldn't be good to have MORE customisation, just saying that we will almost certainly get the exact same treatment as everyone else which will include mount traits.

I think its fairly certain we can say that 'bloodlines' will simply be our version of subfactions, ie their will be 4-6, and of them 1-2 will be the go too, the others will be less useable but thematic. I imagine any Vampire specific loadouts and abilities will be along the line as other people have suggested, i.e. one command and an artefact if you choose with more flavourful options coming in the form of named characters (which there looks to be a lot of). I too would love a return to the customisation of Vamps from old world fantasy, but I'm not sure why we should be rewarded with greater granularity that any other faction in the game, aside from sub-faction differences?

Looks like Vamp lords will now have 2 damage rather than D3

Pretty sure most monstrous infantry comes in 3’s, no? Might get reading a bit too much into that photo... plus they are sold in dual FEC kit boxes of 3, so 🥺

Same, same. They do really need a boost. If they got anything like the levelling up Crypt Flayers got from book 1 to 2 I’d be chuffed. As it is, they are too fragile, difficult to heal and not really that outputty.

Same, this might actually come at a half decent time for me.

I’ve had some time to let it settle, and quelle surprise I’m still super into the release as a whole. They gave me everything I was looking for, namely replacing the absolutely garbage zombies, updating the skeles, dire wolves and bats and crucially FINALLY replacing the Blood knights. For me, everything else was really a bonus. I get that some people wanted more of a reinvention across the board in this regard, and/or the addition of some more elite foot troops. Ultimately, this release is gonna appeal to those that loved the faction as it was (it’s just an update of the core stuff with some nice new characters) and potentially disappoint those who were hoping for more of a re-imagination or chance to replace certain things, VLoZD for example. Hard to please everyone, but as the post above suggests it has been broadly well received and most retained the status quo, which is cool. Personally, I’m ok if it’s not everyone’s cup of tea cos I don’t want everyone to jump on this bandwagon. The marmite vamp-taur character I think, once I’ve got it myself and built it, I will love. It is undeniably weird and out there, some might even say nightmarish... But yeah. I’m onboard with that dual kit. One nice thing about that model, is it looks like magnetising the torso to switch between either build should be easy enough - so yay there. I love all the other characters, can’t wait to see about ratty and masked vamp characters both of whom are no doubt cursed city expansions. My only three gripes are, we aren’t getting a new grave guard kit and that stinks cos the old one is just as bad as the old skele kit (and like a twit I sold off my 40 with great weapons in hope they’d get replaced... doh) AND we don’t seem to be getting any endless spells - but perhaps there is a big change coming in that regard with AoS 3.0 so we have to wait and see. Finally, it’s a bit annoying about the Cursed City 680 point Radughast gang not being able to be ran as individuals, but I totally get why that’s the case. Personally, I’ve been running the Soulblight sub-faction for the last couple of years and have really struggled in tournaments, but have done pretty respectively all things considered. I never really suspected Soulblight would get their own faction, so it’s been a real treat for me. I’m crossing fingers toes and eyes that above all else we still have choice of running Swift Death bloodline or something close to. Flying Blood Knights is immense fun. Probably tho, this will become a spell a bit like Spectral Host for FEC, and if that’s the case I’m cool.

Same. Feels like a looooooong time

Fair point, but we don't actually know that to be true just yet. And, as it stands unless there are changes, we can field Vamps on foot, flying horrors, nightmare riders and zombie dragons. There are a decent range of miniatures to chose from for the on foot vampire lords - though admittedly many of these are no longer available on Gdub store. But, we have just recently got the Underworlds gang, and thats 4 unnamed vamps. I have close to 20 now, going back all the way to 7th edition Fantasy, all on 32's ready to pick and choose from depending on the vibe. But more to your point, you want, or at least I think you want 'options to represent un-named Vampire characters', do you mean rules wise? Well, we have the Vengorian Bloodline and the Vykros for starters. It might be the case that any vampires from those bloodlines are represented by named characters, but we don't yet know that for sure. My hunch is we will be able to build our own customisable Vampire lords within both bloodlines, the degree of customisation may or may not be too our pleasing.

Sorry all, no hard feelings. Only vamp love. X

Sure, I hear that. But likewise, it’s demoralising when people moan constantly.

Bleugh people’s disappointment and trying to alleviate it is not how I intended to celebrate this. Night all. What a bunch of moaning old sods.

But they didn’t, and I was pretty confident based on the skeletons, zombies, wight king and blood knights that the CORE of the army was staying exactly the same.

You are wrong about cursed city. It’s a stand alone narrative board game with a nice tie in to this army. Not sure if you noticed this small thing called Coronvirus, Brexit or the Suez Canal? But these games are always snapped up quick, and because of exactly that issue, they aren’t meant to be MUST HAVES for AoS. They are a nice flavourful extra, if you have it great. If not, your not missing out, not competitively anyway. I think we can all agree that there hasn’t been a rule or model historically in Warhammer quest which has been so crucial to own that you lose without it. The rules from the boxed games are usually dilute vanilla versions of the battletomes. And like I said, if you are the sort of trouser monkey that bought cursed city in the hope to get an edge on people in AoS, you are frankly a tool.

It’s not yelling. It’s big letters said quietly and calmly. Kiss kiss. X

We got so much dope ******. Dear god Check Seraphon, NOTHING Check Bonesplitters, NOTHING Check Skaven, NOTHING much We got a feast

WE WERE NEVER GOING TO GET VAMPIRE INFANTRY OR SKELETON ARCHERS OR VAMPIRATES OR ABHORASH PLEASE CHANGE THE RECORD