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It said in the article that there is more to come for both of these factions soon, so I would expect at the very least a new battletome and endless spells for FEC. Hopefully we get lucky and see a plastic Varghulf and maybe another new unit as well.

I believe the mechanic was detailed on stream earlier, that once per Gloomspite phase you pick an enemy unit and roll a die. If the number is less than the number of models in the unit it takes D3 mortal wounds. Someone posted a screenshot in the panic thread in News and Rumors I think. That seems pretty fair and balanced. It can't really snipe heros, and will only be really effective on units greater than 5. I think that's a nice little bonus, with the main focus being on the moon affecting your units.

GW mentioned that the Dankhold will have several options that will be shown soon, I would not be surprised if one of them is a Wizard.

Thanks for the advice everyone, I wanted to be sure before I started assembling them!

What configurations does everyone rune their Karic Acolytes in?

The thing is, I don't think most of the Nighthaunt units are really that overcosted. If anything, I think most of the units are fairly well balanced in the tome. There are a few exceptions, but for the most part I think most units are pretty appropriately-costed. It's really not about gravesites ruining my games, LON are just objectively too powerful right now. The two main reasons are Nagash and Gravesites. These both need to be nerfed in someway, and going down to 1 gravesite is probably a bit much. Perhaps going down to 2 would be fair enough, as powerful as it is currently.

I would limit the number, as powerful as it is I think you really only need a single gravesite.

I am hoping the nerfs are more aimed at LoN, and the Grims don't get hit as collateral damage. The problem is the gravesites, not the Grims themselves, IMO.

I agree with almost everything said. I agree that we have several flaws, that prevent us from becoming a great book. Several very minor adjustments that and small touches that would have turned a good book into a great book. I do hope they make some of these adjustments in the future, like TGG and you mention, but in the meantime, I think we are in a good spot. The main problem is we have a few tomes that are well above the standard, that need to be brought down into the fold. Tzeentch in my opinion is one of the harder matchups, as Nighthaunt. I play Tzeentch and the amount of mortal wounds I can output is pretty staggering. Mass Mortal wounds is also a pretty big weakness to Nighthaunt, and Tzeentch can also snipe our characters pretty effectively too. That being said, Good luck! I look forward to your after action report.

Good luck, I've played a few 500 point games, and it's really rough on Nighthaunt. We need a lot of support for our lists to work and we just don't have it available at that point level. 2v2 should help make that a bit easier. My opinion for what is holding Nighthaunt back contrary to to popular belief, I don't think Night haunt is in a bad spot. That being said, it's going to be ease of use and complexity compared to a lot of the other armies. It's a lot easier when you have an automatic chart ala DoK or Deepkin that gives your entire army a massive buff or the ability to bring back entire slain units compared to making sure you have all the right bubbles, your heros are staying alive, making the right deployment/reserve choices. In other words, Nighthaunt is a lot less forgiving, and this learning curve can turn a lot of people off of the army. I can totally understand it. It's much easier, and forgiving on the tabletop if you are playing LoN and then bringing back whole entire units of Grimghasts, for very little trade off. To be fair on this, I do think there was some serious power creep with Deepkin and DoK. I don't really think new books should be aimed that level, but instead those two need to be brought down. LoN has a host of things that need to be addressed, but I feel like all of these just need some light touches in the right place.

It's also one of the new player armies, as well as being a bit more difficult to play well, due to the complexity, compared to say deepkin or dok. These are both pretty big factors as well.

So, I get that we didn't do well this tournament, but placing top 3 in several recent tournaments does not indicate weak book or mid tier to me. Let's also take into account that the lists were vairied as well in these placings.

Sorry to hear about your games! In regards to dealing with Magic, That may be why we've seen a few top lists with Myrmourn Banshees. They are pretty good witha +2 dispel for 8 of them.

Cursed, That makes sense. I figured it was the Halberds, just wanted to be sure.

Speaking of Morghasts, Is there any consensus on the Weapon Load out? I think the spears have a slight edge, but I am not sure myself. Thanks!