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7 minutes ago, novakai said:
I go on a limb and it Sylvaneath vs Fyreslayer and it going to be called Fyrewood
I'm still banking on slaanesh being in soul wars so i'd have to agree with sylvaneth vs fyreslayers or maybe something with darkoath vs somebody since that will probably just be a big Slaves/everchosen overhaul similarly to carrion empire
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7 minutes ago, Icegoat said:
I have heard that sylvaneth definitely getting new scenery and three new endless spells with their battletome. Source is not saying anything about kharadron overlords which makes me suspicious it might be something good.
KO could do with a larger overhaul than most factions, they need more infantry choices and battleline in general. There ships could use some retooling as well so I wouldn't be surprised if we had to wait longer for a larger update for them.
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So a thought occurred to me regarding the upcoming soulwars release...
The entirety of the aelf races are quite literally built around souls stolen from the mortal coil by first slaanesh and then the new aelf gods. So what if instead of stormcasts and death again we got a soul wars box that was death vs slaanesh or death vs aelves? Or slaanesh vs aleves? I haven't gotten around to reading the soul wars books yet but it was started by nagash being pissed over sigmar taking human souls from the mortal coil to make the stormcasts right? Then wouldn't slaanesh and the aelves doing the same also instigate another theater of war in the soul wars?
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7 hours ago, TMS said:
Well, it's only 80 points for something that can just sit in the back and hand out +1 to cast. Pretty funky with Necromantic and a Mortis Engine, I imagine.
And @Lucky Snake Eyes I would also love to see something new, although I don't think we're next in line just yet.
Well given the past few battletomes and the updates to skaven and FEC, they seem to want every army to have a terrain piece and endless spells, so even if we don't get a straight up new battletome i wouldn't be surprised if for the next soul wars installment we got a suppliment of some sort that gave us endless spells and maybe terrain pieces for soulblight or legions graveyards.
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7 minutes ago, TMS said:
Unfortunately I don't think that works for us. Soulblight doesn't have Flesh-Eater Courts as allies, only the legions do.
That's actually only one thing in a list of small kicks to the fangs GW has given to Soulblight. Consider the following...
1) The Deathless Thralls rule states specifically that it protects friendly SOULBLIGHT units, deliberately not covering Dire Wolves and such. All the legions' same rule says friendly DEATH units.
2) The extra magic spell we get says that it's specifically from the Lore of Vampires. The Legions' same rule says it's from one of the lores of the dead. In our case it means that the two vampire mortarchs still can't get at those juicy deathmage spells.
3) And as I wrote above, no Flesh-Eater allies...
Huh, fair enough. I've personally only used soulblight for a path to glory but even then dropped it for legion of blood in a subsequent campaign due too having better options. Well with flesh eaters getting an update maybe we can expect to see soulblight, if not LoN entirely get a makeover, Nagash knows we need new battalions and some rebalancing on certain units.
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11 minutes ago, TMS said:
That's weird, I inserted your name and suddenly couldn't type anything else in, and it wouldn't go away no matter what I did.
Anyway, I agree, the Bloodseeker Palanquin is uninspiring. So I'll move on to another topic, but if anyone else wants to share any thoughts on this thing, please do.
So the next thing I've been thinking about is... allies!
What allies have you used to give you some kind of advantage that we don't get on our own? Personally I think I'm on the same page as @discoking with how Soulblight really works best - be good at moving fast and punching hard. Other fripperies only dillute that strength. But still it can be fun and useful to try some outside stuff out. Here are the things I have in mind myself.
1) Dire Wolves. Cheap, durable and reasonably quick. Almost everything in Soulblight costs some multiple of 80 points so it's good to have these as a way to fill out lesser remains. And I think a bigger pack can have a place too, bringing plenty of wounds for cheap.
2) Corpse Cart. Pretty weak but it's cheap and has an 18'' bubble for either giving you +1 to cast or giving the enemy -1. I've tried it and it can hold a home objective decently and the bubble is usually big enough to effect something worthwhile.
3) Mortis Engine. Pretty much a Corpse Cart +1, for a lot more points. Fast enough to hang with the rest of the army and gives some cool bonuses. Never tried it myself.
Fill in with what stories of allies to Soulblight you might have!
I've seen a few people run a ghoul king to summon ghoul fodder, seems like a decent idea since we lack reasonable fodder of our own and don't want to blow too many points we could be using for more bloodknights and vampire lords.
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12 hours ago, Honk said:
It’s a Vamplord strapped on a mortis engine...
sadly they destroyed the reliquary in the process and the vamp forgot his command ability. Then I got quite annoyed with GW and haven’t considered using this trash ever since. A mortis engine with a vampirelord is just better... or the coven throne
Not to mention it's also part of one of the weirdest battalions we have (not that it means much when we only have 6 of them), a melee and movement based battalion that works off of proximity to this weird non-coven throne that buffs a mortarch you don't normally want in battle anyways? What's the point? Sure extra movement on vamps is nice but it's not like neffi get's much benefit from the rerolls since you can't stack chances for her instant kill and while ebon claws are nice they aren't quite the murder weapons VLoZD has.
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8 minutes ago, novakai said:
March has been heavily hinted at as a big 40k event where Abbadon is suppose to be coming to Vigilus since the countdown ends around that time. it probably going to kick of a 40K global campaign and chaos marine release
I wouldn't be surprised if we got another traitor legion codex when that happens, it'd be kinda neat to get a month of slaanesh where we got hosts battletome and emperors children codex all in one go.
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Someone breaking an NDA is on the individual bound by the contract, once the info is public there's no stopping it from spreading. Besides, where's the fun in stopping absolute madmen from throwing out there nerdy wishes, half-truths and straw grasping hopes for all to discuss?
Also, i'll admit to owning beige pants...
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2 hours ago, carnith said:
As told before, drop invaders, take literally any of the other two. A good model to use for a keeper of secrets is the daemon prince. It comes on a 60mm, so the size is al ready there, and you can modify the wings to make them claws so that they look like the extra pair of arms the Keeper has.
Also chaos chariot comes on a larger base. My friend gifted me a chaos chariot and the base looks smaller, just double check.
The GW base size chart lists both slaves and hosts chariots as using 120X92 bases so i'm fine there, might slaaneshify my chariot if i end up liking hosts as an army. I'd like to use my daemon prince since it being able to interupt pile ins seems pretty useful. I'm really not a fan of the official keeper and have yet to justify spending the money on the forge world exalted keeper (but damn are FW greater daemons awesome looking) so i'll probably see if i can kitbash something once i get around to getting a slaanesh daemons box or two.
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12 minutes ago, LordRogalDorn said:
Two quick things. The keeper of secrets is on a 60mm base, so you may need something bigger than a terminator lord. Also, much to my disappointment, Be'Lakor is not a legal ally for Slaanesh. Attached is the ally list for Slaanesh.
With AoS 2.0 invaders doesn't actually do anything as it's currently written, so I wouldnt worry about them.
Daemonettes are amazing, I'd try to fit some of those in your list of you can. Groups of 30 are best. And honestly, chaos knights are pretty good in their own right, especially if you're going to take a slaanesh lord on a mount. I haven't taken marauder horsemen myself, but I think hellstriders fill a similar role.
I suppose i can use my tau battlesuits or vargheists, they have 60mm bases (size up from terms which i believe is 60 anyways), i could run knights and use marauder horsemen for hellstriders, i've got a few horsemen lying around somewhere. I guess if i have to drop belakor i could proxy him as a daemon prince and see about fitting in that warshrine for more consistent charging and some survivability, Now for the real important question: Seekers for the long distance rush and charge or stack my units and go for pretenders for a swol lord?
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Hey all,
I've been interested in trying hosts of slaanesh, wanted to try some stuff out before committing to buying models and mostly still using stuff from my slaves to darkness army but i'm not sure which host to go with. My local group is fairly casual and is fine with proxy models being used for list experimentation so here's my list i've made with what i can reasonably proxy:
Lord of slaanesh on daemonic mount (general, enrapturing, allure of slaanesh, since it's a 60mm base i'll probs use a terminator sorcerer or vargheist from my death army until i can get around to kitbashing one that isn't a hunk of metal)
keeper of secrets (proxied using terminator lord from my emps children army)
masque of slaanesh
herald on exalted chariot (proxied using chaos chariot)
belakor(ally)
Lord of chaos
3 X 10 warriors w/shields
2 X 5 hellstriders (proxied using chaos knights)
I also have been considering taking a warshrine or marauder horsemen, i also have marauders my friends wouldn't mind me using for daemonettes. Any thoughts on what changes and host would work best? I'd also like some clarification on invaders rules i'm not sure i quite follow what it means. From what I can tell the only command abilities invaders would be relevant for is the 3 from the core rules?
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I do wish they'd take this as an opportunity to diversify legions of nagash a bit more. Make each legion a bit more unique by making sacrament more reminiscent of TK, blood a proper soulblight army and keep night as the VC representation.
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@Honk Now if only prince V had the right keywords...
That's seriously broken tho, may give me good reason to run neffi again, Arkhan spell bombing has been my bread and butter lately but of I can get even more mileage out of my vampire lords then i may just go for a face smashy bravery bomb.
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Thanks all for the advice!
I'm thinking i'll grab a hosts start collecting and the wrath and rapture to fill out my daemon stuff (I'm also starting emps children for 40k so i needed daemons for summoning anyways), maybe an extra fiend for that 4 model unit bonus. Right now i'm thinking of using warriors to hold objectives and knights to screen for the squishy daemons and a warshrine to help with charges. I do own a masque of slaanesh but don't know if it's any good and i'm debating on whether to run my lord of chaos as a slaanesh marked slaves lord for the daemon prince/spawn luls or to run it as a normal slaanesh lord. I mighgt be able to get some mileage out of my marauder horsemen but I can see where normal marauders would just be worse daemonettes.
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Hey you drug addicted bdsm freaks!
I've got a slaves to darkness army that i want to convert to slaanesh, been thinking of getting the slaanesh half of wrath and rapture. What from the slaves roster is worth taking in a slaanesh army? And which host is better? Invader, seeker or pretender?
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On 12/22/2018 at 3:12 AM, Honk said:
Yes to both... keyword VAMPIRE LORD and blood knights, so VL on foot, on dragon and the knights are the affected models.
the rule says: get +1 attacks to all your melee weapons, that’s where your steed is listed...
The whole profile is buffed, just like the VL command ability does. Sadly Prince V is not a lord
I thought only the bloodlance/sword was affected and not the mount portion of the profile. Seems silly for a VLoZD to get extra attacks with it's claws and maw...
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28 minutes ago, Kharneth said:
I know nothing about Malal, but I tend to perceive Chaos as identical in 40k and fantasy. To me there aren't two Chaos pantheons.
Hm, okay. But, um, what is the source of Malal's power? Like, Khorne feeds on anger, hatred, and violence. Slaanesh on greed, desire, and craving. Nurgle on fear, sickness, and death. And Tzeentch on delusion, change, and magic. Is Malal just pure anarchy or pure madness? Chaos without aim?
Malal more or less feeds off of pure chaos itself, as long as chaos exists so does malal. He exists as the manifestation of chaos' self destructive nature, think about it, the end goal of chaos is the ruination of all, but since living beings are the source of chaos it's a self destructive goal. Malal represents and feeds off of chaos' march to it's own destruction.
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3 hours ago, Kharneth said:
What is Malal's domain anyway? I never understood how the 4 Chaos Gods were incomplete.
Malal has been swept under the rug and rewritten so many times i'm not sure what the current "official" description is, but he's essentially the antithesis or pinnacle of chaos, he represents chaos' inevitable end as it turns in on itself in self destruction. The chaos gods are a fire given life by the universe and malal is the flame sputtering out in a sense.
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Why not kitbash a mix of stormcast and slaves to darkness bits?
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just to throw my two cents in after all the mathhammer has already happened. I usually run a 30 block of skeletons (mostly because that's all i own for normal bone boys) and have done really well with them, sure i'm not getting all of them into a fight but slap VDM on those suckers and they have deleted anything that picked a fight with them, only time in the past while i've had concerns with losing with the skeletons is when daughters of khaine charged two consecutive shrines into them with some extra witch elves peppered in, or when i go up against the uber buffed beatdown sequitor squads of one of my stormcast friends. GG on the other hand i don't tend to get as much mileage out of but for the sake of filling points and having some more reliable rend attacking i keep a squad of 10 in the rear to guard against deep striking or teleporting units like tree revs or stormcasts.
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Hey fellow legionaries of totally not tomb kings!
I recently took our favourite tongueless bootlicker to a local tournament and ran away with 2nd place! (ended up with a by in the first round due too uneven numbers) All battles where in chamon.
Here's the list I brought:
Lords of sacrament battalion:
Arkhan (general, soul harvest)
necro (black gold bracers, decrepify)
necro (spectral grasp)
mortis engine
VLoZD (Vile transference, shroud of darkness, lance)
dire wolves X5
dire wolves X5
skeletons X30 (swords)
grave guard X10 (greatblades)
corpse cart (goad, lodestone)
Glaivewraith stalkers X4 (drummer)
Purchased command points X1
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16 minutes ago, Frowny said:
Any answers to my other questions?
What god do I dedicate my mostly knights forces to ? I'm leaning toward slaanesh or nurgle at this point, but could be convinced another way. The slaves ruleset itself doesn't feel the most exciting......
Why do people like Dark Power on the sorcerer? He is so expensive you could get another unit of almost anything that you'd be thinking of buffing. I guess its better if you have a giant block of something, but its hard imagine the buff does more than 10 more warriors or 5 more knights....
Sorcerer is our only non fw wizard option aside from the manticore variant, oracular vision and dark power can turn a couple of units into a bigger pain for your opponent. As for marks on knights i'd suggest khorne for sword knights and slaanesh for glaive knights
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I like the idea of the rebranded army being called godsworn but then you can't really toss in everchosen since archie kinda hates the chaos gods. Maybe if it was straight up called "The Undivided" or maybe "heralds of the end times" (sorry for those still sore about the death of fantasy). That way you could thematically take archie the champion of chaos undivided, in the undivided army (the fact you can't already do that is a load of bull). I would like the darkoath stuff to replace the old marauder line with darkoath berserkers, hunters, wolf chariots, etc. I would also like to see a proper return of mammoths and the incorporation of some of fantasy's norsca stuff like a warshrine mammoth, skin wolves, etc. I agree with the notion that warriors are fine but have dumb poses, but i would like to see a new chosen kit or maybe aspiring champions as there own unit. Either way I would like to see some form of juiced up chaos infantry that is as beefy if not beefier than stormcasts, I still find it silly that chaos warriors are smaller than most stormcasts but are about the same in stat profiles. Also there was mention of varanguard being chosen but aren't they supposed to be lords? I do agree that they should get a foot variant, since the current profile for chosen doesn't scream "heavy infantry" the same way units like retributers do.
The Rumour Thread
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I would hope that any rewrites include changes to battleline because I was tempted to start them as my first army for AoS but as a broke college student at the time I decided against it as there kits weren't exactly the cheapest and their start collecting had no battleline in it.