Kaleydoscope

Oh my gosh, these are superb! Very glad to find this topic on Christmas morning. That's a present if I've ever seen one. I especially love the clothing and weaponry - your modelling skills are impressive Would you please send me the link to where these can be acquired?

Am I the only one who sees the head of a wraithguard in the background of that quote?

You can make them work like I did. Open them in a slicer (e.g. Chitubox) and save them as stls. Then you can open the stl in any slicer and adjust your parameters for your printer/resin. It is a work-around so not perfect and I would have liked to tweak some of the supports, but it nevertheless came out well. Sadly, I still could not finish painting it as I'm either sick or working for the past months -.-

Unpopular opinion: Moving after Translocation for one (1!) unit was fine and should not have been nerfed. Even more so since countless players asked if movement was intended after the first faq, the second faq, and the new battletome. Changing celestial menagerie and cycle of the storm was unnecessary as well (to state how the latter works would have sufficed) but doing both together with translocation really makes me angry. Sorry, but even I have to vent now. All that withouth publishing a faq but rather updating the app which is not up-to-date for everyone (several people reported this change but me and others cannot see these changes in the app or on warhammer community). Thank you GW for yet again communicating badly -.- I would have liked to at least play a single game with movement after translocation in my group where you meet hard hitting tournament lists most of the time which of course shield their valuable units with chaff and thus mitigate this teleport anyway. Unpopular opinion (?): I like this thread and think it does not impact the forum's positivity policy negatively.

Sadly, it is only one more dice thrown for thunderstrike units (so 4 dice instead of 3 when a 3-wound model dies) instead of getting MWs on 5+ instead of 6+. Other than that, your list looks fun but could have problems on scoring objectives (few bodies) and punch (Stormdrakes can turn out to be more of flying tanks than hammers). Edit: Ofc, you could use the holy command final thunderstrike (?) once, to get MWs on 5+. Still, I would not like that personally because it implies that I want many of my models to die that turn..

This. I have no idea how something like this can be intentional or slipping through before releasing that battletome. Why would anyone use the Knight-Relictor besides him being somewhat cool model-wise? I can imagine using one as another count-as Lord-Relictor but besides that... Even when the Lord-R. would rise in points significantly, I would prefer him 80% of the time. Will anyone be using the Knight-Arcanum? I like the model, but I guess it will cosplay a Knight-Incantor or Lord-Arcanum.

Genuinely sad to hear that. I am no tournament player myself but I can understand it. I always hoped to get more dragons for SCE and now that it finally happened (will happen) I want to assemble them, paint them and play with within my friendgroup. I guess this will take us another 2 to XX weeks then. Hopefully less than a two-digit number.

Had a 2000 pt. game last night against Seraphon which I've lost. I tested: 2x5 Vindictors, Lord-Imperatant (Arcane Tome), 3 Annihilators with meteoric grandhammers, Lord-Relictor (Translocation, High Priest), Gotrek, 2 Stormdrakes and 10 Protectors (4 Starsoul Maces). My opponent castled up his Lord Kroak, Oracle on Troglodon, Starpriest, Priest and Battle Standard Bearer behind terrain and 3x20 skinks, 2x5 Saurus Knights, 10 S-Warriors and let 2 Salamanders infiltrate later. I gave him first turn and hid a bit and the only exposed unit was the not-so-tanky Stormdrakes. I lost half of the unit to buffed skink venom (teleport) and a couple of magical MWs (although Kroak started the game with his first spell being a dud [2 ones and 2 MWs for him, his other spells got converted to summoning points]). In my first turn, I scioned down the annihilators next to kroaks skink-shield and failed the rerollable 7-inch charge. The translocated Protectors attacked 2x40 skinks, the warriors and one unit of knights and I completely messed up the rolls.. 4x D3 MWs on 2+ netted me 2 MWs, 31 attacks on 2+ (AoA), 3+, -2, D1 only killed about 3-5 Skinks, 1 Warrior and no Knights at all. Bad save rolls on 2+ killed one protector. The Stormdrake failed his flame stream but successfully hero-phase-charged the buffed skinks (->no Unleash Hell) and the other knight unit and together with some vindictors thus scored the primary objective (only 5 knights contested it before and 4 died). As my first turn was plagued with bad rolls, I took the chance of a double turn and charged the unlucky annihilators (besides failing their charge beforehand, they also did only 1 mortal wound from crashing down) into the skinks and the first one died to UH. Awesome. The protectors whiffed their attacks again and another one got hurt (at least he lived..). The surviving Stormdrake did nothing (and got eaten by the troglodon in the following turn) and Gotrek shreddered some more skinks (18 out of 20 in TWO turns and 4 activations T_T; I swear, my rolls are bad on a universal level) but 2 survived and passed their battleshock test in two consecutive turns. This is when the game completely turned on me and Kroak started to wreck me in their second turn. Celestial Deliverance wiped out half of my army (as every single unit and all 3 objectives) were inside of his 18" radius. The rest of the game can be told very briefly: Kroak took another turn to kill every stormcast safe from a heavily damaged Lord-Imperatant, a half-dead Relictor, 1 brave vindictor and 2 equally brave (but pillow-fisted) Starsoul Mace Protectors. And Gotrek. Boy was this dwarf angry. I guess that's what kept him alive (at least I could make 3+ Ward save rolls). Together they killed Kroak in a single Combat Phase (21 allocated wounds) but they still could not kill the troglodon which first regenerated wounds and then teleported out of combat to contest the new primary objective. Well, the game was lost with 10 to approx. 22 VPs but Gotrek still did not die while the whole of the SCE force was massacred and beaten back to azyr. I like the new sturdyness of our golden bois, but MW-heavy lists still prove a big hurdle. Next game I will try out Hammers of Sigmar instead of Knights Excelsior and Fulminators (which hopefully will prove to be more of a hammer than protectors. At least if i manage to roll better.) instead of Protectors. Wish me luck, folks. On paper, the dragons sure are good but they have specific problems which were pointed out earlier and some army's will simply outmanouver you. If I could have I would have like to use draconic onslaught to fly over skinks and then attack Kroak or the other buffing heroes but it was utterly impossible. I should have used "unleash thy hatred" on the protectors in the first turn instead of saving it up until they were diminished by Kroak. Looking forward to testint Fulminators now. According to statshammer they should do way more damage while still counting for 8 models (to the protectors 10) for objective contesting and are more likely to successfully charge after a translocation.

If it's not Soulblight or SCE, I would think it to be a LotR miniature.

Exactly. Shame though that greathammer annihilators are more expensive than the "normal" ones. I prefer those with their 2+ save but I will buy at least three otheres anyway because I love the models.

Still not sure whether I can finish him before the new GW dragons arrive but as they are postponed for a bit and I could at least lay down base colours with the airbrush, it might be possible.

Thank you for sharing, PJetski Can anyone remember the point cost for longstrike raptors in the new SCE book from leaks? Doubling the shots is awesome. I did not play them for a long time because I did not like the Anvils of the Hammerhand shenanigans. I like the ballista changes although I despise 2D6 values as I too often roll two ones. I would have preferred 4D3 (and for GW to change all D6 values to multiple D3s instead, but that's just me) but hitting on 4+ compensates for the change to the lost ordinator drop tactic.

I have this list idea lying around for a couple of days - what do you all think about it?

It grows.. Fitting together the stone parts was not easy and took some sculpting clay, but that model is worth it ❤️

I second this. But I still need to warm up with the face of the tauralon. But maybe with an alternative head.. something more dragon-ish mmmh. Do y'all think the drakes will be about 10-11 wounds each? I can't imagine them being 12 wounds. And I'm still not sure about the monster keywords. That would make them significantly more potent and there is precedence with gargants of having more than one monster in a unit but still.. I hope they will not be too expensive points-wise because I would want to field a bit more than only the knight dracothion and 3 min-sized units of them in 2000 points.