GrandAdmiralAutumn

I think people are overlooking possibly our new most powerful asset, the Alpha pack battalion (in the GHB). its 2-3 Behemoths (frigate/Ironclad) with the ability that all units in the battalion can make a normal move of up to D6" before turn 1. And instead of making a normal move, our boats can fly high. Now everyone is Zilfin. So my proposed list is: Barak Zon Battle Regiment: Dirigible - General Dirigible 10 Thunderers 10 Thunderers 6 Wardens 6 Wardens 10 Arkanauts Alpha Pack: Frigate Frigate 1980p, 3 drops The plan being to deploy 2 frigates, 12 wardens, 20 thunderers and 2 dirigible in the opponents face, use the low drop count to go first, then shoot and charge the enemy into the ground turn 1. (Zon wardens are pretty terrifying) It has some flaws, if your opponent can out drop you and that would put you into an akward position where you would need to deploy defensivley, and as with all alpha-strike-style armies if you don't cripple them in your opening volly, the counter attack will be hard on you. But I think this can put out enough damage to end most games turn 1. What do you guys think?

Yep, Daughters suck, completely unplayable in a competitive environment , might as well sell your army and leave this this thread.... Now that he's gone let's get back to talking about how to actually play this army; Doomfire warlocks with mindrazor seem weirdly viable now with mindrazor, they're doing a lot of damage with 2 attack profiles. Would they be a good alternative to lifetakers?

Ya know... knee-****** reactionaries like you where saying that the KO book was a nerf too, because it didn't play like the last iteration, and yet now after people figured out how to use it it's topping every event. There are a tonne of options in the new book, we've only had one day to look at it, and already people are thinking of S tier combos, To quote tom Lyons from the WhatsApp, you can make 10 lifetakers (a unit that costs 160p) into a 55 wounds dealt on average Skud missile that deletes an enemy unit a turn; So default, Lifetakers are 2 attacks each, 3+/4+/-/1. On charge, they increase rend and damage by 1. Mindrazor increases rend by 1 and damage by 1 on the charge. The standard structure I would run these would be wrapping a Hag cauldron, between 20 witches and the Cauldron. You'll send out the missile normally in turn 2. So, the other easy buffs at hand are RR1s to hit from frenzy in turn 2 (from Hagg Nar), Witchbrew (3+ in turn 2, RR wounds), and if they charge near the Shadow Queen (who would normally be sent ahead to draw out/pin an enemy unit), they're also getting +1 attack. The Cauldron could also drop Catechism of Murder, although that isn't calculated into the math. So the unit is going to fly 14" out, and then charge with RR1s (if in Cauldron Guard, which I would be, it would also be +1 to charge). Their profile on the charge will be: 30 attacks (2 base, +1 near Shadowqueen), 3+ (rr1s from allegiance)/4+ (rr from Witchbrew)/-2 rend (1 from charge, 1 from Mindrazor)/3 damage (1 base, 1 from mindrazor, 1 from charge). That averages 42-48 on a 4+ save. Catcheism of murder would on average generate 6 additional hits/4.5 wounds with reroll, thus 11.25 more damage against a 4+ (so 53.25 to 59.25 on average). So yeah, that is pretty good for a 160 point sacrificial missile unit. Not to mention, with Cogs and the Battallion they move 16" and have plus 3 to charge, so they'll hit the enemy lines easy turn one, Chase Shadow queen and 10 blood sisters with 10" move 2D6 run and +2 to charge you will alpha strike the hell out of the enemy.

Could someone put a link to the DoK WhatsApp? I need to see what's going on in there!

So I feel like our rules are a little glitched at the moment... Right now, we lose the "way of the free people's" trait, which means we don't get access to adjutant's and empowered spells, but it also means we don't get the "strongholds of order" trait. The strongholds if order trait gives the specific city keyword to units, and there's nothing in the Har Kuron rules to replace that. That means that the only units in the city to be Har Kuron are the DoK units, BUT you can only tale those if you have 3 other Har Kuron units, which without "strongholds of order" don't exist. So as the rules stand, we can't take any DoK units, and none of our heroes can take the command traits, artefacts, or spells because those are for Har Kuron heroes only. I feel like we need an FAQ soon...

Ok guys, I made a detailed list rundown here: https://thehonestwargamer.com/aos-list-rundowns/kharadron-overlords-skyhooks-for-days/ I'll put a play-by-play and tactica Article on AoS shorts website in a few days! @jake3991 , I actually managed to skip all the death armies there! but I do pretty well v Nighthaunt because they all have fly. @Kramer I took the Evocators mainly because theyre wizards, can do mortal wound, and are tougher than Endrinriggers. I love our balloon boys though!

Hey guys, I'm Krohn, Thanks for the support! Cancon was really great, and it felt awsome to get onto the stream twice! (Day 2 games 1 and 3). I think they're still available on the honest wargamer's YouTube. Here's the list I took, and a couple ideas I had going into it. Barak-Zilfin + there's no trading with some people Khemist General - stickler for the code - these are just guidelines Khemist Artifact - aethershock earbuster (this one goes in the frigate) 40 arkanauts 12 skyhooks 10 arkanauts 3 volley guns 10 arkanauts 3 volley guns 14 thunderers 14 carbines 5 evocators 3 grandstaves 5 evocators 2 grandstaves Frigate - cannon Artifact - eatherspheric endrins - 12 skyhooks and a khemist is amazing - I find volley guns work better on the small squads without khemist support - 14 thunderers and a khemist fit perfectly in a frigate, and do a lot of damage - I also won a LOT of points by charging the thunderers and retreating. That's how I beat a Hagg Nar at the start of turn 3 in knife to the heart - I love endrinriggers, but they just die too fast, so I took the evocators instead, since they can also dispel - when I needed to screen (which was often) it was with the 10 man arkanauts out front, and the evocators directly behind, so they could provide a strong counter attack - I like Mohrnar, but I needed the deepstriking boat for maneuverability since I didn't have any endrinriggers, and the rerolls against flying things is really good, especially with the amount of death around. And if I fought an army with no flying, that's what "these are just guidelines" was for If you guys want me to write up a more detailed game walkthrough, I can write one up later today

Hey guys, I'm going to a relatively large GT (for au anyway) of 74 people, and I'm taking my KO. I'll let you know what happens, bit for now here's the list I'm using! Barak Zilfin + there's no trading with some people Leaders Khemist, General - stickler for the code-these are just guidelines Khemist, aethershock Earbuster Knight Azyros, Ally Units 40 Arkanauts W/ 12x light skyhook 10 Arkanauts W/ 3x volley guns 10 Arkanauts W/ 3x volley guns 20 thunderers W/ 20x rifles Warmachines Ironclad w/ aetherspheric endrins, volley cannon 1960p

Hi guys, I'm headed to a pretty big 2k GT (70) and an having trouble deciding on a list. I have 4 that I'm currently wondering about, and was hoping I could get some input 1st is a 1 drop, objective grabbing list, with some CC, but I think it lacks damage output Mohrnar Khemist Admiral. Iron Sky Squadron. 40 skyhook Arkanauts. 10 volley gun Arkanauts X2. 2 frigates. 9 Endrinriggers Then I have a massive firepower list, but it lacks maneuverability and CC Mhornar Khemist. Endrinmaster. Lord Ordinator. 40 skyhook Arkanauts. 10 volley gun Arkanauts X2. Ironclad x2 Then a combat focussed list, but I'm not sure if the endrinriggers will survive enough Urbaz Khemist. Brokk Grungsson. 40 skyhook Arkanauts. 10 volley gun Arkanauts X2. 6 endrinriggers X2 Knight Azyros And finally a bit of a clown car, not sure if idoneth are popular right now, but this is the only list I see beating them. Zilfin Khemist. Khemist. (In ironclad) 40 skyhook Arkanauts. 10 volley gun Arkanauts X2. 20 thunderers (in ironclad). Ironclad (with tp engines). Knight Azyros (tp's with ironclad) I dunno, which one do you think I should take?

I dunno about double ironclad anymore, after the Zilfin "move and get out" and the ordinator double-shoot got canned

Hi Guys, I've been lurking for awhile, and just made an account, but does it run anyone else the wrong way that realm rules where specifically designed to hurt shooting armies? "For example, if you don’t use the Realm of Battle rules, which include a chance that visibility in a battle can be greatly reduced, then extreme ‘gunline’ armies can be taken without any risk of fighting a battle that doesn’t allow them to fight at maximum effect." A quote from a recent Community article. Most of my games are at a local GW, so we use these rules quite often, and I find they don't actually effect KO in a huge way, but just the fact that GW is actively trying to stop our army type really feels poor form.