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Matador

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  1. Hey! who changed the title of my thread dang it! Come on Gaz!!! lol
  2. I appreciate that. The problem is that whether it was a planned tactic or a mistake in production it is a repetition of the Sylvaneth distaste and risks setting a new pattern if GW doesn't see the problem from their customers. And I for one do not relish seeing this done for future products as a customer. By informing GW or our displeasure we are giving them a genuine gesture of goodwill giving them a chance to fix the problems rather then silently ceasing to buy the products. Get it?
  3. No. If they think they can get it by their customers It may become the future pattern for all releases and info management of existing products as opposed to the relatively responsible manner in which they handled the content up until this year. See a pattern that is good: reward the company with purchase and loyalty See a pattern that is bad: inform the company of your displeasure
  4. Customers can make their displeasure known on all fronts and should. And you are fooling yourself if you think that GW disregards the online comments and posts, movements. They are in fact now wedded to the online community as they used it to drive revenue and new releases, new products. Other than white dwarf and dealer outreach it is their only advertisement theater, GW's future business plans depend solely upon it, so you can be certain that several heads watch online quite closely (looking at you Nigel).
  5. Been playing since 92 mate, and tracking the release and announcement patterns for last 4 years. In fact I would not have made the jump to (and large investment into ) AoS if I hadn't seen that GW had adopted better practices and standards with product development, release, and customer service the way they did a few years ago. That's why I'm on this, I didn't post are raise a hew'and holla about Sylvaneth seeing it as an aberration, but with the CoS and Ork battletome distaste we are seeing a new pattern being tested that needs to be rejected before it becomes the accepted practice by GW.
  6. Thanks! no conspiracy mate, you missed the point (by accident?) the announcement timing, the dearth of official news combined with the cull are the concern, especially as they may forewarn us of the new pattern for GW releases on existing (already purchased) products. As to "is pathetic" hehe did you really think I would bite that troll cake? hehe
  7. Once again, if you return something absolutely let them know if it was driven by the release nonsense so they know customers don't like the new pattern and are voting with their money.
  8. Indeed, and I would encourage folks who are holding off on a purchase to at the very least let your hobby store know why, but really the best move is to send an email to GW letting them know what you are holding off buying and why.
  9. Yeah. That's a huge part of the problem, the failures scheduling between divisions (Battletomes, figures) combined with the official radio silence on the issue and release amplify the problem and impact previous customers disproportionately. Bad form all around. Let's let GW know this isn't acceptable to their customers folks, post early and post often on facebook, youtube and take a minute to send an email to GW.
  10. So true, so true. I honestly I don't begrudge them that at all. Merely that they avoid a release being announced with no clear intention followed by a cull that intersects with the product when clearly they are focused on getting a new product like the Bonereapers and Warcry out the door.
  11. This hasn't been the case for several years mate, they adopted a much more nimble and flexible model to drive revenue in 2013 and when done right it's been great..... but when done wrong as in this case and the Sylvaneth it's detrimental, and unless we as customers make out displeasure known it could very well continue.
  12. Exactly. Especially as GW has gone to great lengths to maximize profit from the community engagement business model in the last 4 years, making wholesale changes that impact previous purchases positively and negatively to drive revenue.
  13. Not cross about the preview mate, concerned about the new tactic to announce preview followed by model cull followed by months of silence while competitive scene is tossed about and previous and possible purchases impacted.
  14. Fair enough, then don't announce a product and squat models associate with said product until you are ready..... see? simple. GW needs to show the respect for their customers/partners that they did previously in the AoS product.
  15. Actually it's not mate. Have tracked last 4 years, the only comparable instance is the Sylvaneth disaster this year, which is why it's important to nip this pattern in the bud if it's the idea of some clever young lad GW hired in February (looking at you Nigel). So rather than see my call to arms as a venting/whine see it as a what it was intended a call to let GW know it's not acceptable practice to their customers.
  16. Not looking to force release mate (not that high). Rather looking to inform GW that the current model (model get it? haha) isn't working and that their paying customers do not want to see a repeat of it or the failure of the Sylvaneth release. Simply put, if you are going to announced a product that will impact previous content purchased by costumers to drive interest and revenue, make regular official updates on the impending release AND what impact it will have, with an close eye on the other aspects of the customer's input in the absence of official comment I.E. model purges, etc...
  17. Very aware boss This really isn't venting, (useless exercise I've found) but actually a well intended and urgent warning for customers to speak up so this type of thing does not become the set pattern when GW notes they can pull it. As you know doubt know many of us have mates in the various outlets and within the company, and more than a few of us have heard how GW gauges customer response quarterly and it impacts not only content but the price and manner in which content is released. Now if this content existed in a vacuum it wouldn't be an issue, but GW content isn't. The releases and creation of product has a constant and considerably impact on customers previous purchases both positive and negative. The reason that matters is because GW has used that relation to drive revenue, it's a core part of their business plan since AoS came out, ah! but for that same reason GW has entered into a pact with it's customers, if they can use their impact on previous purchases to increase or devalue the product they need to be responsible and transparent with the customers they are impacting. Cheers
  18. That's really at the heart of the issue gang, the different divisions of the company are not are on the same page. The results, or lack of results are at the detriment of customers. Remember that folks, we are customers.
  19. Not a rage post buddy, not at all. It's a warning and call to arms post from someone who watched Sylvaneth (most recently) players get hosed.
  20. Sadly mate, it's not news and it's not specific and wasn't able to be confirmed by GW staff. It comes from the right place, but it's misguided loyalty performing damage control for GW.
  21. Hey you are a big fan... I get it, problem is that you ignored the majority of my point and went into damage control for Games workshop, you rushed into listing everything they have done or say they will do in hopes of smothering my concerns, not cool and pretty intellectually dishonest mate . There hasn't been a official date or update release (believe me I look every day) as to when either will come out, and company reps at the last three public events said they didn't want to talk about the books. BTW Goblins was last year.... and updating has been going on for 18 months... warcry is an entirely new game with the same setting and along with Bonereapers is a product announced after the two Battletomes were announced. Also, I guess you were not aware of the whole disaster that was the Sylvaneth release? for the rest of us it was a real bell-weather about older and existing army releases and updates. Perhaps next time you could just post: "Hey Matador, I don't like that you are criticizing GW." and spare us the unrelated spin please.
  22. I'm afraid we are all going to put on our Gamerrage hats and start posting complaints if we want to 1) see this book 2) ever see the Greenskins book 3) Show GW that this is not the way to handle revamps. Doesn't matter if you are into the humans, or Ork armies, we need to stop this kind of nonsense where changes are announced and then put on the back burner for new material sales at the cost of current players. +++ Mod Edit +++ Do not change the title again
  23. I think we should all keep in mind that we can still play straight Free People armies without a city alliance just as it was after Firestorm came out.... unless they go out of their way to dink the army, which is still possible I suppose. Honestly the way they have handled the release of info has been complete bullsh*t and I encourage all of you to start posting on the Warhammer Age of Sigmar official Facebook page, complain about the mis-handling of the release and the dishonesty in announcing the battletome and then not release any news on release dates or data.
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