JackStreicher
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4 minutes ago, Cdance93 said:
I'm sorry but thats not a valid argument either in my opinion because the double is for both players, more often than not both will get one and it will benefit both. Sometimes it doesn't happen but its better than sitting there turn 3 with no hope of winning because of fixed turn order.
answered in the according thread.
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8 minutes ago, Cdance93 said:
AoS would be worse off without the double. Without a doubt - those who dislike it are usually ones who refuse to play around it
play around having to wait an hour until it's your turn again. Sure, that's easy.
That argument is tno argument it's a non-gument It adds just as much as it takes from the game but on top it adds passive time which is frustrating.enough of that, there's a topic just for that discussion already.
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1 minute ago, Chikout said:
Do the same for the old world
or simply add the bases for free when buying in a GW store. *mind blowing marketing and PR*
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Double post due to connectivity issues.
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45 minutes ago, Ragest said:
I think the problem there is a narrative vs balance one.
Indeed they currently (and probably in the future) are using battle tactics like this
it surely works but it’s neither pretty, nor is the problem properly fixed.
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1 hour ago, Marcvs said:
apart from the balancing problems (fully agree) my issue is also with out they break the flow of the game (the "start of hero phase" phase is the worst moment in the game for me) and impact how you build and think about your army -that is, as a tool to score 5/5 battle tactics first, and only second about fighting a battle.
That's my biggest issue with it. Battle tactics are too detached from the actual battle. It's random errants that don't make any sense. Imagine you are fighting a tight battle suddenly your general orders you to do the floss dance INSIDE enemy territory because it grants points. - What? To me the game is no longer a battle but a "do random stuff to win" fest. However winning isn'T the objective of this game, it's to have a fun and close game. (close doesn't mean that the points total has to be close to one another - "Oh no I lost because I didn't have a monster left to run to that objective and do a "dancing bear" - A PITTY).
Now lads, suppress that unit BUT DON'T KILL IT. Then our infantry sweeps in and finishes them off!
*Accidentally shooting the unit dead* "Oh well I guess we will lose this battle, too bad!
1 hour ago, Sarouan said:Battle tactics existing outside of the scenario's victory conditions are indeed an abomination, to me. They needlessly complicate the game and are another thing to keep in mind while you already struggle with your so many army special rules.
If 4th completely throwed them into the bin, I would clap with both hands.I agree. If every scenario would present a special situation in which those Battle tactics are neccessary TO WIN THE BATTLE I'd love them. (not to win juding by an abstract points-system in the background)
1 hour ago, The Lost Sigmarite said:You’re sad because battle tactics are still a thing.
I’m happy because double turn is taking a big warranted nerf.
The DT should have been culled. It'd be easier to get more of the 40K, LotR and TOW crowd interested in AoS that way (at least in my area). And I really hate it for several reasons.
1 hour ago, Marcvs said:yes, but again using the "pity victory points" approach that they used for balance in 3rd ed (like, giving new easy battle tactics to struggling factions). So you might still get crushed by a double turn*, but hey you'll win on points.
*my problem with the double turn is only that it makes me sit without doing much for 1 hour+ not about the actual impact on the game
That's just one of the issues. Agreed.
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1 hour ago, Whitefang back me up said:
This is largely all complete rubbish. I’ve had a look through the core book and I’ll let give you some rules, then I’m gone - flying too close to the sun.
- EVERYTHING is an ability.- Morale GONE. Now ‘Control’ stat.
- Weapon range is combat range, everything in 3” fights. That’s it.
- Magic is choose one spell lore at beginning of game & everyone knows all spells in that spell lore.
- If you choose to double turn you can’t score a battle tactic.
Kind of sad I liked the part about moral wounds
(it gave me hope)
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2 hours ago, Aeryenn said:
First Yndrasta now her...
Does sigmarification make girls to lose half of their hair?
really? It's just a side-cut which looks more warriors-esque/savage
Fun fact: Hair beneath a helmet are kind of in the way/painful etx. no matter how good the padding is. That's why samurai shaved the top of their heads.
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1 minute ago, Snarff said:
Sons of Behemat are going to be discontinued?!?
/s
No they're are not.
It probably does not make much sense to put a 500 points megagargant into a spearhead box with around 500 points. (Balance, the giant will win, period)Guys don't overreact XD
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1 hour ago, JerekKruger said:
Elise? I have actually considered her. The question is how eadily I can evil up the unicorn.
The question is when she will be up for order XD
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14 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:
I smell a HIPPOOGRYPH CONVERSION INCOMING !!
(do we ever see the hind-legs?)
They wield axes ❤️ finally some actually effective weapons vs armour!
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3 minutes ago, Skreech Verminking said:
i’ve not yet seen a player not playing for that double turn on round 1-2
Ofc it’s a disproportional advantage. Who wouldn’t
@mojojojo101 advantage: the opponents don’t have to explain every warscroll in painful detail, they just go: This unit has a full command, Run & Charge and Ironbreaking. And you‘ll know what that means. Also no more 20 versions of bodyguard
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Usrs: usually those are easy to memorize. Even s.o. like me that plays once a week at best learns them pretty fast.
usrs are an issue if they’re handled like TOW did (scattered related rules across a dozen pages)
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Imo a mix a usr and the way it has been would be best. Common things like Bodyguard, Champions etc belong into usrs
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19 minutes ago, Vasshpit said:
All I see is a Black Orc warboss on a wyvern..
Chaos dragon for TOW
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Sigmar’s face has changed
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10 minutes ago, Nezzhil said:
Index are a reality then
I like it.
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8 minutes ago, Kronos said:
Looks to be SM
not again
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3 minutes ago, GrimDork said:
I’m still not convinced. I’d like a few more pics before he’s legit………
worth a try!
No clear Model images could mean that he's just having lucky guesses
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14 minutes ago, Sealven said:
Maybe a poisoned blade to go along with the apothecary type rumor engines we've gotten? Nighthaunt?
It's a chaos blade
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Imo GW doesn’t have to respond to anything. Even a full leak doesn’t matter
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1 minute ago, Hyperionxvii said:
terrain
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Size comparison of the Foot Knights
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What are you using the boat as @Ogregut?
(it gave me hope)
(do we ever see the hind-legs?)
Double Turn begone! AoS should get rid of the double-turn
in Age of Sigmar Discussions
Posted · Edited by JackStreicher
Nice, so both players have to wait an hour each not doing much? Please reconsider.
I know minus and minus is plus, but this isn't a case where this applies. You are thinking in game terms I am thinking in boredom turns and DTs add lots of boredom since passiveness isn't very enticing.
Jup, and in truth it doesn't change anything except adding NPE to the game. But there'll always be the "git gud" argument, which as we all know always holds sway and is nothing but the truth.