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Ghorros Warhoof is totally alive and kicking (and drinking, and...) during this time. A plastic kit that let you build him or a generic centigor chieftain would be nice.

Yeah, I struggle to see the "duardin accesories" mentioned in the article. And the kruleboy shield isn't something that would look out of place in the Old World. If someone wants to use it for TOW only the shape of the base could be slightly troublesome.

I don't expect it anytime soon, but after the big renewal of the skaven range they could perfectly have two different lines for AoS and TOW. I think VC are in a similar possition, or they could be after 4th edition (I guess that's why rumours have started with them). On the issue of new armies, it would be very weird to see Cathay before Kislev, who is more rooted in the game, already had some representation in iniatures, and is directly affected by the Chaos invasion.

Maybe they'll make a print-on-demand for collectors, or maybe he's getting things mixed up and what FW is brewing is a different set og books based on that one.

Even if Ogors are safe as a faction, I think Mawtribes players may have reason to worry. After recent developmements I won't be surprised if GW decides to revamp and expand the Beastclaw Raiders (which have a strong theme, and properly AoS at that) and drop the Gutbusters. Or they may release a new faction, like Kruleboyz for Warclans, and silently let the others fall to obscurity (althouh they would still get rules, so maybe doesn't sound as dire for Ogor fans?). They remaining in the setting is a positive, obviously, but I don't think they're "very safe" as I understand it.

Gotta disagree with you on that. Hoods and pustules are common in regular Skaven too; I really don't think their design is pointing out at a merging of clans, but we'll see.

I think Ejecutor is aware of that and it's just pointing out that the leaker may have been confused by the Champion (although the helmet is pretty standard in Skaven fashion).

Great update. As a long-time skaven fan this update feels exactly right. Tle old skaven but new. For those who think they're not "AoSified" enough, bear in mind two things: Clanrats are suppossed to be rabble without anything special special, and Skaven were always the more over the top faction back in Fantasy, so they can't take them much further without jumping the shark, IMO. Still, I'm sure we'll see some realy crazy stuff done with them down the line.

I agree with you but man, could they use some new minotaurs...

This reminds me of the army composition of the Realms of Chaos armybook during WHFB 5th edition. Which honestly, it's something I was hoping to see again, as it feels thematic and cool. Not so sure about how they're handling "auxiliary units", but I want to give it more thought before giving a veredict.

How could you forget the best ones?

Since we, ToW players, also deserve our own baseless rumours to discuss about, I'll share this post from Reddit from the user NadaVonSada: Honestly, besides the thing about the VC, everything else feels like very safe guesses. If true, I'd assume Vampires would be the antagonist of an hypothetical second campaign book, after the one about the Chaos invasion, either jumping to the Vampire wars, or making up a new event after Magnus vs Asavar to keep the timeline flowing in the same direction.

Your stuff is awesome and I'm glad @Double Misfire had bringed it to my attention. Keep at it! 👌🏻

Agreed. They look cool and have a strong theme going on. I'd even say they could be perfectly expanded into their own faction, like the Witch Elves did. It won't happen of course; GW already has an aelven army tied to the sea (even if it's a very different take), but at the very least they should survive ( and maybe updated) within CoS.

If AoS gets ride of some units it's because they no longer fit their vision and want to sell a new unit in it's place. The TOW team can benefit from this, but I doubt they hold that much power when it comes to GW making decisions.

I always trusted you, @Whitefang back me up!

The problem with Hobgrots it's that they don't have ranged or mounted units, and if uyou use other units as proxies you will have a disparring aesthetic for your count-as hobgoblins. You can make it work saying they're different races enslaved by the chaos dwarfs, but I'd personally prefer a more unified look. Regular goblins from TOW are a good option as they have archers and wolf riders too. It should be obvious to everyone what they represent since CD can no longer deploy goblins.

I re-read Skavenslayer not that long ago and, for me, still holds up well. That being said, it does leans more towards humor than the previous book (which still had plenty of it on some chapters, mind you) and that might not be for everyone, specially if you aren't used to skaven. As others have said, thou, Demonslayer is the place to know about Malakai Makaisson. You don't even need to read the whole book, the beginning should do.

Following the theory about the shields on the rulebook cover it should be Beastmen and WE. It could be HE and Warriors of Chaos too, or course, but somehow WoC feels like the right choice for the last evil army as the main bad guys of the setting.

Funny you mentioned Zoats. I have my fingers crossed for fimirs to be included in a Norscan Army of Infamy. Having a precedent on Total War makes that seems plausible and not totally copium on my part, I think. I haven't thought about the zoats, but of course I'll be all for it, and more tempted by wood elves if that finally happens.

I think Orion and Alarielle are the most obvious candidates when it comes to Wood Elves. But they'll need new miniatures to dothem justice if they're getting rules, so if the TOW team couldn't put the resources for that then they won't appear. Finubar, the future Phoenix King, is also travelling the world and making contact with the Wood Elves, if I remember correctly. Great job with the thread, btw!.

Digging more and more the Troll Horde. I have like nine trolls from the Skull Pass box, and was looking to buy some of the old Stone trolls anyway. Should have a good starting point for it!

I'm sure Slaneesh is pretty understanding about the whole thing.

Nah, he was working on it, but had to postpone it to give Katakros a proper beating.

I'm not so sure about a Slayer Army of Infamy anymore. The lack of plastic suicidal stunties may have forced the designers to think about other options (norses and engineers?). I know that wasn't a problem back in the Storm of Chaos, but it would be nowadays.