Thalassic Monstrosity

If you mean me, I've been very open about how I have exactly no evidence. I even said a little while back that I don't even consider it a rumor, just an idea that's been floating around in my head. Even if it isn't directed at me, I'd hardly call it nonsense. I mean it's generating discussion. We all seem to be of an accord that no one would like the idea of Beasts dropping from the game. But back to the topic at hand: someone on Facebook (where no one lies) said that the Beasts Question was brought up at a Q&A at LVO, where it was answered that Beasts are definitely remaining in AoS. That's a lot of acronyms. But can anyone confirm this rumor?

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I've been talking about the Beasts removal for ages, but I want to throw in my opinion: this isn't even a rumor. It's been thoroughly unsupported by anyone aside from Rob, and to date Whitefang the Wise (Wisefang ha) hasn't addressed it at all. Is it worth discussing? Sure, we all care about this game and it's direction. Is this possibility going to stop me from pooping in the woods and bleating at the moon? Hell nah.

Narratively, GW seems to have filled the "threat from the dark, untamed wilds" with Kruleboyz. They even had a teaser image about eyes shining from the dark woods or something. I like Kruleboyz just fine but when they revealed the image was for a new breed of orruk and NOT new Beastmen, I said a bad word or two. They don't even have horns. Losers.

This is exactly how I feel! I know Morghur is popular but Malagor has always been my favorite, ever since I read his fluff about an Imperial town waking up to find his hoof prints all through the snow, over walls, onto roofs, et cetera. The reference to the Devil's Footprints legend pleased me.

I plan on just painting her face gold as if it is a mask. That's what I do with a lot of models with faces I don't exactly enjoy, like Teclis and the GSC Sanctus.

These reveals have gone to the birds.

Ah, I didn't know that! Thanks!

Aye, but people can still use her iconography or give her praise I suppose. She's just as dead in AoS, after all! I know Hellebron was referred to as Crone, and she was mentioned in Covens of Blood, so who knows? I'm curious to know what it turns out to be no matter what it is!

Could it be possible the Morai-heg model is for 40k instead? She's the progenitor of both the Howling Banshees (unlikely, it's a pretty new kit) and the Croneswords the Ynnari are trying to collect.

I'd take that and/or Doom Knights such as TWW3 has. Something that makes them more than just Warriors/ Chosen in blue. This is one of the best Warhammer art pieces, in my mind, and makes me really want armored Tzeentch.

No, they liked the post about Chaos Dwarfs (which was in the same video where BoC moving was discussed, but NOT in the post Whitefang reacted to). Whitefang has not reacted in any way about BoC being moved, not that I've seen.

Thanks! I'm really curious to see how that siege turns out, and to see what the Lady's model and backstory* are like. *My phone thought I was trying to say "backdoor" and that would have sent a VERY different message. Imagine if someone was like "Whitefang, confirm if the Lady of Ruin is caked up or not!"

What do we know about the Lady of Ruin so far? I don't have any of the Dawnbringer books so I'm not caught up. I think there was something about her sieging one of the Hammerhals?

Just for that, you earned Stormcasts vs Marines.

Astragoth, is that you?

I wonder if the Horns of Hashut would move to being Chaos Dwarf unit or be split with StD?

I think it'd be weird for them to change up the look overmuch, since the dawi zharr have a pretty distinct - and unique in fantasy - look in my opinion. Particulary when compared to many of the other WFB factions. It seemed like an odd choice to me that it's taken this long for them to be released. But I agree, they have a lot of leeway with their design. I'd love to see what they do with it!

I don't know, I think Alarielle has a strong claim because she did the fusion dance with Ariel, combining both of Isha's mortal vessels into one form. And Morathi, well. She put in the work to get her promotion.

Duardineth Aelf-lovers. They've committed the greatest sin of all.

I mean... if there wasn't a precedent it wouldn't have occured to me. I just think given the removal of all High and Wood elves from Cities it's a possible sign. It's a leap, I'll be the first person to admit that. I'm just saying it's possible. I don't want it to be, but I just have a feeling it might.

I mean, that's usually the case with the books. But the dearth of representation outside their own tome is what I take issue with. I will say this: AoS gave us one of the best bits of Beastmen lore ever: the Beastlord called Ghosteater. "We rule, but only where you - where the Blessed Ones - do not wish to. You take our kingdoms from us when it suits you, and devour our young. You herd us into battle, and take the eyes of the gods from us. That is not the way it should be. We are more than meat. More than beasts. We are the children of the gods, no less than you. Now we will prove it." I read that and it makes me so happy. I'll be happy for that, at least.

Beasts have almost as little narrative impact as Hrud, was the point I was trying to make. But I definitely agree with you about how they should definitely be a thing. There's so much you can do with them! I think they're so cool! But I am also very biased - I like goatmen. My gamer tag has been Gharbad the Weak ever since my flippers have had thumbs. There's so much wasted potential with them.

Other than being a little peeved that I'll have to rebase them again, I think... my first impulse would be to say "as long as they get the attention they deserve". But I don't think they would. They haven't even in the Mortal Realms, where the writers could do practically any thing. Instead they're being returned to their old place of being an ever-present "threat" in the Old World. Sure they are. The brayherds are swarming from the Drakwald! They've already taken over a Fort! They've truly earned their place in the backstory of whatever Empire character stopped them! I know I'm being negative here, perhaps unjustly so, but I'm trying to temper my expectations. The Beasts are like the Hrud in 40k. You know they're there, you know they're a threat. Rather, we're told these things.

I've been vocal about my belief this is the case. The Brayherds don't do anything that isn't covered by other factions. Sneaky ambushers fron the wilderness? Kruleboyz have that covered now. Chaos in all its gribbly mutative horror seems adequately covered by the other factions. I know there's a bit of hope surrounding rumors of Morghur but heck, even Swifthawks still exist in the fluff. I've been an ardent beastman lover since their first army book. I'd love to see them return in glory. But somehow it feels like no one at GW has an idea what to do with them.