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On the other end of the spectrum you have chariots.
A weapon of war that IRL quickly became obsolete as people figured out how to make proper heavy cavalry (plus the issue of controlling 2 horses vs 1), and essentially disappearing after antiquity. But it looks pretty cool in warhammer (granted AoS doesn't really have any).
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If the word is Bolded, it's the Keyword. If it's unbolded, it's the exact unit entry.
As an example, Spoilpox Scrivener affects only the Plaguebearers, not Plaguebearer (keyword).
On a side note how the heck does the Fatemaster still exist. It amazes me that 2 of the 4 God Mounted Chaos Lords still exist in 2020.
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Neat! Are the normal skeles from that new company Atlantic?
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With the pretty significant point cuts, anyone running Doombulls, Bullgors, or Ghorgons in slaanesh?
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I imagine it's similar pricing scheme like bonereapers. I'm curious though if phoenix guard are at all going to be involved.
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1 minute ago, AverageBoss said:
I mean, they already split before, they are just one unit now. So we traded the flexibility of multiple units for single unit durability. The shooting attack is a bit worse, and they went up in points.
I think that's what most non Tzeentch players will see. It's more obvious when a unit of pinks keeps on splitting vs tallying up blue points and having the blues pop up somewhere else.
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For chaos, anything goes! They may have an axe hand, or spear feet, or mace shoulders!
Except magic, khorne doesn't give out magic.
In the warhammer fantasy MMO, the chaos marauder (oddly enough) changed weapons on the fly. And by change weapons, as in his arms into other weapons.
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From the review spoilers, DoT is more of a sidegrade/streamline of most rules rather than "X rule is now Y rule". Not that it's a bad thing imo, you don't want people on a forum complaining about your army for months on end now!
Other than the Horrors of Tzeentch thing though. I'm sure that might be a hot topic for a long while.
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10 minutes ago, Charleston said:
Yeah, it somehow feels like a dirty move from gw in the case that there are really important rules for the faction hidden in another book.
Well as I speculate, it could be "Funny Grand Allegiance" rules like the previous book. Maybe it's going to be a way to have different god mortals and daemons since thats so far not possible outside of GA Chaos/allies.
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Teclis and his army is coming spring 2020! Let the speculation begin!
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Hmmm looks like theres going to be even more chaos stuff coming in soon with Souls War Wrath of the Everchosen.
Though I get the feeling it may be more like Legion of Grief where you "miss out" on most allegiance stuff, unless they learned their lesson from the last book. Legion of Grief is actually fine due to a few good tools, but Lethisian Defenders is almost a waste of Ink and Paper.
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15 minutes ago, Popisdead said:
Where are the points for SGs? I own 2 and have been thinking of finishing painting them.
They're from Slaves to Darkness.
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1 minute ago, Charleston said:
I firmly belive there are new kits on the way. They already showed that they´ve done the sculping work in the SC!-Box. I belive that a multipart kit will follow in the next time, along a new Chaos Knight Set (althrough this one is weird as the old ones are not that old, thou) and a new Lord of Chaos (we have a new weapon for him and yet gw didn´t have a sculpt for him, which means often an upcoming model).
Along theese, chosen are still resin as well as the old lord on mount. Maraurauders are also dated. As everyone has expected them to be cut from the book, it may be that there are some chances on some updates here, too. Althrough we have no real hints from hw despite them beeing still in existance.
Imo at this point GW doesn't have any rhyme or reason on who gets cut and who doesn't.Perfectly great 8th edition plastics like the War Altar of Sigmar or the Skycutter Chariot get cut, yet 6th edition Metal Centigors and Tuskgor Chariots are still around. And I would think that Beasts of Chaos are very low on the totem pole of getting new models, not counting tzaangors.
I'm not saying multipart new chaos warriors aren't coming, but there does appear to be a bit of a weird "backlog". Especially since the book is already out, and GW likes to use books to highlight the new models (like all of the warcry models, some of which still aren't out yet). Unless they're pulling off a Chaos Space Marines...but that took like a year.
As I mentioned, it's mainly their Build out of the Box mentality that I find very odd. I mean you can't have Chaos Marauders with Flails and Shields since you can't build flail+shield (well you can, but it's not intended).
Also the Chaos Lord does exist, it's this guy from the Chariot. The chariot kit was originally meant to also make Chaos Lords on Chariots, who now have been demoted to unit leaders.
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35 minutes ago, sal4m4nd3r said:
@Gibs How can you equip the unit with different weapon types? You cant mix and match weapon types.
Well so far RAW Chaos Warrior warscroll sounds like other "weapon mixing" units like Tzaangors or old Ard Boyz.
Now RAI is up in the air. I'm inclined to think it's suppose to be a No-Mix since GW is on a "Streamlining" spree but it is very odd to have different language used.
Chaos Warriors:
A unit of Chaos Warriors has any number of models, each armed with one of the following weapon options: Chaos Hand Weapon and Chaos Runeshield; Chaos Halberd and Chaos Runeshield; Chaos Greatblade; or pair of Chaos Hand Weapons.
A typical example, Freeguild Guard:
A unit of Freeguild Guard has any number of models. The unit is armed with one of the following weapon options: Freeguild Halberd; Freeguild Spear; or Freeguild Sword and Shield.
Am I the only one who is actually surprised chaos warriors still even have weapon options? GW seems very adamant on "Build out of the Box" (even to the point of Stormfiends having to have particular weapon loadouts). Unless of course this is implying a future chaos warrior box will have halberd and great weapon options. But then that begs the question why we haven't seen such a kit, I mean we have pics of the Sphinx, Fomoroid, and Ogroid despite still having no info on when they're suppose to come out.
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11 hours ago, tamthethird said:
Are the god-specific terrain features (Skull Alter, the Fane...) usable by S2D or can they only be taken in their own god allegiances?
Like, the depravity refund is irrelevant for the Fane, but it's free and if I can burn an artefact to get re-roll all hits on my Karadrak for the rest of the game, well... I'll push the Diabolic Mantle button and then throw it on the pyre.
Only their allegiance. Terrain is essentially an extension of their allegiance abilities.
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Looks like KO itself will have a sub-faction for all duradin with Barak-Thryng!
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52 minutes ago, Sidewinder said:
but I don't want to take a hugely inferior option 🙄
IMO this mentality, no offense, has been very exaggerated for AoS. Yes obviously on a charge, lances are better (especially in conjunction with Lancers battalion) but getting bogged down in melee without a charge is also a likely scenario which gives halberds their time to shine.
Worse comes to worse theres always Magnets.
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While it'll never actually happen (due to the sheer nichness), I guess there is finally a point to the Ogor Tyrant having one of the big names involving garrisons!
Time for everyone to read up in those garrison rules finally.
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Could always convert the manticore into a fly, or something else that flies. Maybe even use a maggothbeast and slap on some wings. Not like the Maggothbeasts are doing anything useful right now!
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Thats quite a bit of dakka right there! The new endrinmaster model.
While I'm sure KO will be most effective in KO, the new book certainly will make Tempest Eye interesting.
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Could also have a Manticore Sorcerer for magic.
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Back on the topic of DoT, I'm curious if Flaming Chariot General for battleline Chariots is going to be worthwhile.
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1 hour ago, Magnus The Blue said:
I want to give the Syll Daemon Steel battalion a good. Lower cost Soul Grinders with +1sv and to hit feel like a bargain.
Thats what weirds me out, it felt like Daemon Steel was suppose to be the permanent fix for soul grinders in terms of warscroll updates. But that didn't happen so I'm not sure if SG's are worth it outside of the battalion (granted bringing only 1 SG in the battalion is probably a waste of points, very incentivized to bring 3). Unless somehow Disciples of Tzeentch also has their own flavor, but doubtful.
AoS 2 - Ogor Mawtribe Discussion
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If things start looking to homogeneous, mix it up with the banners! Maybe have some ogors that have stolen totems of their fallen enemies, or using the banners as spears. And have instruments instead of bellowers, a full on ogor marching band!