Acid_Nine

yea, I knew that, but thank you! I was hoping there was something that said he could wear new "Armors" or teleport to armies that needed his support, almost like a daemon like if the army of Syar is about to embark on a serious mission, but eltharion is technically within ziatrec right now. Could they use a matching set of armor (in a different paint scheme 😉) to summon his soul there to fight for them? or does the light of Eltharion have to walk across the realm like a peasant?

So has anyone played a game with these guys?

Definitely not mine, all credit for those files go to black magic craft

Man, with all these waystones I feel like a sucker that I made my own ones now. All these are awesome, and your paint job is great! by the way, does anyone know if Eltharion can be summoned to a set of armor? Or is he an entity in one suit of armor all the time?

So after waiting all day to try it, I finally got a chance to work on my new idea. I took retributor gold and covered it in the burning gold chameleon paint to act like a shader, and I have to say that though it’s not exactly a true color shift, I like how it looks! skeleton as the final test of this;

I think i will try at least one more test model, this time with burning gold over retributor gold. The red is just contrast paint so it’s super easy to do, but the armor was a pain on the stormcasts, so I shudder to think what it would be like on the smaller lumineth. I am almost afraid to try one of them, but I will see. If the retributor gold base does work then it saves me like, three coats of black as a primer, so that would be nice. I may just use the gold on weapons and shields.. but otherwise, thank you! I just wish I could paint more with these guys, but I got studying to do! @Wyliekyote good to see someone else doing the color shift paints too! Are you using an airbrush as well?

Finally managed to get the pictures of my two testing guys. They may look better under different lighting, but I think they could be good? We’ll see I guess. Since ziatrec has retributor armor as a base, I went with green stuff world’s chameleon paint for the burning gold, and used storm casts as a test for the robes, armor and weapons. plan is to use the azure on the spear tips, use the gold on the armor and use the purple / red as robes. thr color shifting doesn’t really come out well on camera... almost looks like a puke yellow

I got it just for the matched play updates. I went half a year without the GHB one and it pretty much ruined a few games when I didn’t know what I was doing but my opponent did. I think I would just buy a matched play update, but right now I do kinda feel like a sucker for buying the core gaming book....

You warned me I believe, so I should have listened! Yea, I think the compressor is more expensive than the air brush, so I dunno if I will be getting one anytime soon. Plus, I’m in a medical program currently and don’t think it would be wise to get one with my student loans. I may try on one of my guys just to see how it would look, as now that I let them completely dry the models look a bit better. I will say though, that shading utterly ruins the effect so That is something to consider. I am really excited to see how the weapons turn out those, as the celestial Azure looks really amazing for a weapon.

Wellllll.... I finally got my chameleon paints from greenstuff world and I gotta say I'm a bit dissapointed by the Burning gold. It turned out a lot more greenish gold instead of orangy gold like advertised, so that makes me sad. But! The other paints I got are pretty nice, so I may be using them on the weapons or the shield or something. I may try to use it on one model, but without an airbrush I think I am stuck brushing it on, and the shoulder things on the wardens is fairly intricate. Kinda sad that I waited a month for those paints Will post some pictures later when I can

I am surprised to hear you didn’t like ziatec too much, as they seem like they have the most useful alliegence ability outside of ymetrica. It is pretty much the one ability everyone can use consistently every turn, and which can effect every turn of the game. I also think that overwhelming heat is a nice option, but I don’t think it’s the main draw of this army. how do you feel about Avelorn’s -1 to hit aura?

anyone able to create a hero with the new anvil of Apotheosis rules? my book and paint havn't come out yet...

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Yea, honey combing is basically the way to play wardens. I think having the wardens out front would be a good idea, but it adds more “surface area” for the enemy to swarm around. I played around with a unit of 10 versus 20 skeletons, and having the warden out front just provides an extra little circle for the enemy to swarm around. Plus, I do not know how good his sword is, as it doesn’t have the mortal wounding thing. I think keeping him out front would be good for removing models so you don’t “accidentally” remove him from the squad like you would if he is in the back. Also, I warn against playing cav in squads larger than 10. I play morrsarr in units of 9 and it can be a pain to get everyone in.

Yea I remember that there was nothing about aelven souls. Maybe teclis and Tyrion are doing a Waystone type thing like in the old world, where souls are drawn to certain places in hyish, or even drawn back to Hysh? I know not every army needs a way to keep souls from going to Nagash, but I would take any chance to flip the bird towards the Grand General of Boners

I would have considered it more if the model was still around. Last time I checked, it was squatted, so I think that the balewind is going to be gone for good. It was a shame, as I never worked up enough courage to buy one! Speaking of endless spells,i have been debating on what to take. I still think that the rune of petrifaction will be absolutely devastating, especially when combined with other spells like darkness of the soul, overwhelming heat and that gravitonic spell. Plus, we can plant it on objectives and make staying there painful for anyone without a glorious elven helmet. Still, the other spells like gravetide, gnashing jaws and life swarm really appeal to me, and may provide more benefit... I dunno which I want more!

oh, my bad. my squint-o-vision is not as good. I thought they were 175pts

man, did morrsarr guard go up again? why?

Well, I do think it is a mixed blessing that the twin stones are a predatory spell. On one hand if we are going first the opponent can move it out of the way of our advance, which sucks, but on the other hand if we go second we can move it where we need. A way way we can mitigate this is by having another endless spell act as bait, like the quicksilver swords or the Gnashing jaws, but then we may get damaged by those spells too. I would suggest using a spell like Geminds as bate, but that would mean there is a chance we could get debuffed, which would suck. Still, interesting to think about. by the way, what do you think about using the darkness of the soul spell combined with Voice of the mountain? Darkness of the soul makes it so the target needs a bravery check on 2d6 for them to do anything, including fight. We can debuff the hell out of the enemy bravery with voice and aetherquartz, maybe throw in the ganashing jaws, and suddenly we have a good chance to lock down an entire unit, even if they are battleshock immune.

@swarmofseals Your opinion on this is pretty good, and we should consider a lot of it, but I do not think the outlook as bad as you're making it out to be. (I could be wrong as usual, as I couldn't make outflanking deepkin work all too well with my terrible luck.) I think one of the struggles of the book will be to put our wardens in a position to benefit from the most buffs as possible, and the two protective buff spells will be key to keeping them alive. Whether getting those spells off is easy in the long haul of the game or not is something to be seen, but I think we have a place at the table in the top lists. We may need to play around to find out. I really do not see why you like stoneguard so much though. could you enlighten me on it? because it seems they need at least a battalion, a mountain, and the faction to make them really tanky. again, I could be wrong, but I do not see taking them over wardens.

You could try and find an arch mage from old Fantasy in order to replace it, say it's from the same caste and maybe model the chalice / brazier on the ground next to them. Some other models I think I myself am going to use are in the spoilers, whether as wardens or as heroes I'm not sure. @Adammck66 I have the same Dilemma. I think if I can spare the 20 points I'd go with Avalorn. 2 more wounds, one more attack is fine, but his real reason for being there over the base mountain is his aura that hits everyone in 12" rather than just 1 unit in 12". Makes the defense seem that much better, and he still hits like an absolute truck.

I tried both, and let me tell you the results are always the same. I am cursed with super glue. I will be putting together the rest of the 4 with braincell killing super glue activator, which is the only way I can get results... Also, anyone find any fluff in the book pertaining to the Idoneth besides telling the whole origin story?

I hope this army sold well, but remember the larger release is set up to come later on. Since there is no real savings (from what I read anyways) then I think People could just be either waiting for 40k’s new book to drop or for the full release to hit. also, my worst nightmare when creating my dawn riders came true when I saw the broken piece I found belonged to the Steedmaster’s model that I wanted. He was an absolute ****** to put together, and there is a small gap where the horse is supposed to push together, which will always make me sad when I see it. Sill, can’t wait to paint him, and really can’t wait to play with them... i am cursed so that super glue doesn’t work for me, so I shudder to think just how badly putting Eltharion together will suck.

So in reality, how dirty is the Voice of the mountain spell combined with the Cathallar's innate spell? Because holy carp, stopping one entire unit from doing anything over two turns would be great for the moment you wanna jump into the offensive, but I admit i'm going to feel like an arsehole when I do it. it's a dirty combo but it can change the bloody game.

Man I am still waiting for my paints to arrive... I just hope it’s worth it! Also need a non- humid day to go and spray paint... I decided to do sub assemblies for each dude so I can paint the face and cloth easier with contrast paints, and not worry about trying to do full detail on each face. @LuminethMage never considered a magocracy, which makes sense. I just want to know if there is one king and many princes like the old Ulthuan system of government for each nation, or is there a mage council for each city that rules as a governing body. I know it doesn’t matter in the long run, but it would have been nice to know about, especially during the spire fall event, whether or not the governments were the main cause of the mess or the individual land owners were. Maybe I missed something that said that, may have to re-read. How much the lumineth control now would be nice too, like certain boarders of nations / chaos territory, but that is something AOS struggled with for a while.