EccentricCircle

Would the rulers of the forum consider adding a TOW board along with the warcry etc ones? This is the friendliest, most pleasant forum I've ever seen, and it would be a shame to have to find somewhere else for ToW news once it gets rolling! Surely it falls within the remit of fantasy warhammer as much as say, bloodbowl does.

You might want to varnish them, as paint can chip, but other than that there's not really much different. Best to build them with superglue and a little green stuff, but they go together pretty well really. I'm very glad they are bringing it mostly back in metal rather than the terrible resin that these models were last available in. Metal models just hold up so much better, and have a lovely heft to them which modern plastic can't quite match, great as it is to work with.

The Tomb Kings have returned!!!!! I know it's been coming for a while, but it's real, it's actually happening!

That looks great!

I have full armies of Tomb Kings, Lizardmen, Dwarf and Chaos Dwarf, and vampire counts from the wfb days, and honestly a lot of my gloomspite and cities armies should work without any hassle so I'm more or less ready to go mostly with whatever compendium rules they put out for the non focused upon forces. I'd like to support the game, but I'm not going to be affording big army boxes in January, and much as I love the Tomb Kings dearly I don't need a whole armies worth of more derpy old skeletons. More Usabti would be good though!

The new swarms and heros look great! Shame there doesn't seem to be a second plastic kit, but I guess Bretonnia just gave us too high expectations. I love the Tomb Kings dearly, but that Starter box isn't going to be useful for me. l already have a full tomb kings army, so the last thing I need are more skellies and chariots. Could do with more shabti, sphinxes and tomb guard really, so it's a shame they didn't put any of the ir good older models in the box!

I really hope that they do but it will depend on whether production moulds were ever made, which seems unlikely. If not then they'd have to be very confident in the kits selling in order to justify making them. Plastic injection moulds are insanely expensive even today, and tow mostly seems to be using old kits for that very reason. They may feel that if they're going to make a new mould it might as well be totally new, as reusing the old greens doesn't save rhem much.

You know you've been doing too much warhammer when you accidentally say that grapes come "still on the sprue" #hobbyistchristmas

That rumour seems fake to me, like they just looked at skaven and listed the stuff most in need of an update. Seems like a pretty safe guess, but a really easy guess, not anything that really suggests inside knowledge. I bet we'll get some of this, but there will also be weird things we can't predict. They never just update existing stuff any more!

We really should have organised a letter writing campaign to ask them to split the voting into categories this year! I completely forgot that this was a thing. I think 40k wins on numbers alone, but I agree it's great that our system has a plethora of options for best model, even if that splits the vote. It does seem as though the most famous space marine always wins, even if the model isn't that great. 40k has very dynamic stuff like the new carnifex, but it's not a space marine, so gets overlooked!

I agree that the man him self was a horrendous bigot who doesn't deserve to be commemorated. That said, i feel as though depicting him as (or as part of) one of the hideous abominations he inspired could be seen as a commentary on the monstrous nature of his beliefs, as much as a glorification of them. I kind if love the mask idea, as your kind of capturing the notion that behind the veneer of respectability lies something as twisted and horrible as anything he imagined. If executed well it could actually be a fairly powerful political statement. The works in progress look amazing! I'll look forward to seeing more.

I'd love to see Chaos Dwarfs, but I don't think it will happen this edition. We seem to be getting towards the end of the post pandemic disruption to R&D, but it seems like they wouldn't have had time for another full army what with the general slowdowns and the few big things they have got out. I have plenty of projects on the go though, so that's no bad thing! I'd also prefer more expansion of smaller ranges first. Fyreslayers in particular could do with what the orks and ghouls have just gotten! I'd also rather see some more monster girls for DOK, before a complete Dark elf army. It seems like we'll eventually get dark elves back as part of Old World, so why not do something more interesting for AoS. (That said i've never believed Malerion was just around the corner!)

It's worth pointing out that some folks are much better at internalising rules than others. When we see thus sort of thing, there can be a trend for players who are good at rules to think "well, I learned it pretty easily, so its easy to learn". That might just mean though, that you are better than average at learning it, so please be sympathetic and have empathy towards those who find this harder. There is so often a feedback loop with games, where those who have good active memory, and can deal with a larger cognitive load get better, and those who can't get forced out because the majority can't wrap their heads around why it's hard. (Not trying to be critical of anyone or any post here, this just doesn't get said enough and is pretty key to accessibility in the gaming community. Warhammer should be for everyone.)

Well I was wrong to not believe in tye dragon then! Looks pretty cool, if fragile. I hope we still get a new chariot kit though. I feel that is needed, even if this is the new centrepiece.

Halloween isn't as big here in the UK, but we do at least observe it. Unlike thanksgiving which I think is just an American thing. I think most brits would struggle to even tell you when that was, much less plan marketing around it?

Yeah, this is an interesting one. On the one hand they are finally doing the concept justice, and I appreciate the cleverness and gory ness of the design. Sadly on a personal front, it's too gross for me to want to paint, or even really see. In principle I hope the army gets lots more stuff like this. In practice that means I'm not going to be collecting it. But that's fine. Not everything is for me and I'm happy for those this is for.

The webstore is an accessibility disaster. Tiny text, Light grey on white everywhere... It takes more clicking to get to just about everything and the core systems which used to all be listed at the top are now buried in unreadable menus. Plus changing all the URLs right before x-mas when I was compiling a list of gift suggestions was unhelpful in the extreme! I didn't buy much direct from GW anyway, but it used to be a good reference to check product info. Now it's an unusable mess. Good job I have a great flgs near me. I'd rather support them than GW anyway!

Maybe some later on, but the whole original range was made by the Perry Twins who are legendary as good sculptors. The problem is neither the designs or the material. It is entirely an issue with the moulds. The more you cast with a rubber mould, the more worn it gets. 20 years ago those Uruk Hai were beautifully crisp and had hardly any flash. I know, because I built a ton of them! But with MESBG's decline in popularity they clearly haven't been remaking the moulds from the masters as regularly as they should have, and quality has dropped as a result. It's particularly noticeable for the made to order stuff, which has more flash than any other metal models I've seen. if you check out companies like Warlord, Foundry, Perry etc which mainly cast in metal, their quality is better across the board. There is always going to be a bit of flash unless its a nrand new mold, but unlike GW they've not given up on the material and let their quality drop. In other news I'm pretty sure the "liche on a dragon" rumour was just Ionus for the stormcast. My bet is someone didn't know what they were looking at and assumed it must be TK.

Indeed. If we compare the famously rushed Gorkamorka rules, by all accounts multiple people spent two months solidly working on it. It was rushed because it lacked the robust internal playtesting that they'd given the other specialist games of the era. Physically writting the rules still took a ton of time and effort, by all accounts!

Not much coming up, by the looks of the release list. Seems all the big stuff is for ToW and epic. We only really know the rough order of factions for most of those systems. It really must be nearly the end of the year!

The one afternoon thing smacks of hyperbole. That's not just rushing the development. I think its physically impossible to write a rulebook in that short a time, even in draft. I'm sure it was a useful development excercise to all meet and try things. But I don't think for a moment that there was no iteration. You don't just write up your notes neatly and hit print after that sort of thing. You revise, iterate, explain and improve as you figure out how best to write it up. Even if they did no further playtesting, which I doubt, it couldn't have been "written in an afternoon" .

In death so far we have Ghoolies and Ghosties, so we still need the long leggity beasties and the Things that go bump in the Nght! They've kind of tried to roll werewolves into soulblight, but that's the other big Halloween archetype. Skeletal barrow kings could be spun out into their own faction, and of course we'll hopefully soon see the return of the mummies in ToW if not AoS. My friend and I tried to think what a completely new and original death army could be. The most warhammer thing we could think of was giant floating skulls, made of skulls. They'd be released by Nagash specifically as an anti Khorne faction to steal back the skulls, and thus souls, being taken to the skull throne. There could be other units designed to counter other chaos powers!

I'm a collector and hobbyist. I love collecting miniature ranges and spend lots of time at my painting desk building and crafting my armies. I enjoy the lore, as I am more of an RPG player than a wargamer. I play a little bit of warcry, but have basically stopped playing AoS and 40k. I love ranking up my armies, but actually playing army scale games tends to be quite boring. I play a lot more frostgrave, D&D and anything with a story basically. I like the idea of narrative AoS but find it tricky if the other player doesn't engage with it. I have no interest in competitive play at all.

I guess we now know that the rumoured liche priest on dragon turned out to be a stormcast eternal, and won't waste a TK slot! It shows how even rumours based on real intel can mislead if the leaker doesn't know what they saw!

This is great news! That should serve bret fans very well. It also suggests that a nice tomb kings release is very feasible. Brettonia got two new plastics, four old plastics, four new resin, and it sounds like most of their old metal back. So if tomb kings rerelease the sphynx, snakes and tomb guards along with all the 8e heroes, then that gives them a solid base. I'd say their new plastic kits should be a new plastic infantry kit. No reason that one box can't build every weapon option. The old archers one basically did. Then they need a new chariot kit again with updated skellies. Like the lord on Pegasus that could have alt builds for regular chariots, tomb king, and maybe even Settra. If we got a third kit for skeleton cavalry that would be a plus, but all chariots actually makes more sense if they can't do a third. They shouldn't bring back the old riders if all the other skellies are updated though.