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I don't collect Ogres, but think they belong in the mortal realms setting. They have been a bystander for most of AOS and think having them be the powerful opposing force for the 5th edition launch would be cool. They could also show up at the end of edition campaign similar to how FEC got a revamp with model and lore.

Pretty much. I'm sure they mentioned 16th May at some point for the Dallas event in US but generally we will see everything by 18th.

Completely agree. Mortal wounds should be given as specialist cases where they make sense and not as the standard form of dealing damage. leaning into other forms of damage (as you suggested) opens up more specialised units and interesting interactions on the table which I’m all for.

The fact the number of Ogres resin/metal kits went to 7 to 6 recently when plastic Gorgers were added via Warcry is a very good sign they'll get a revamp somewhere down the line. And Ogres are quite popular from my experience, it'd be weird no to capitalise on that.

agreed. With the first unit we were shown starting from a 3+ with two ways to get +1 (AoD and SCE Finest Hour) my bet would be for the level of MWs to remain more or less unchanged -although, it could still be less prevalent in shooting and moved to spell for instance.

Epidemius, scribes, fluxmaster and viceleader got a sneaky retire from the web without being in the infamous article, so we have resin kits available just for nurgle, khorne and ogors.

So, confirmed launch box preview for the 18th of May?

Events calendar

Third edition AOS seemed to focus on the cleaning up/updating of old kits. I think they want to solidify existing armies before adding new ones. From Broken Realms to Launch of 4th we have seen old resin kits like Belakor and Kroak get updated to Freeguild, Seraphon and now Skaven. I think the purge will continue through 4th. Beasts, Bonsesplittaz, Skaven and Ogres were the last ones standing that featured outdated sculpts or resin. BOC and BS were evicted, Skaven is getting updated now, which leaves Ogres. I would be very surprised if they did not get a revamp at some point in the next three years. Unless they are the being saved for 5th launch. Resin Kits Left Nurgle:(2) Festus, Epidemius Tzeentch:(2) Blue Scribe, Fluxmaster Slaanesh:(1) Viceleader Khorne:(2) Lord of Khorne on Juggernaut, Skullmaster, Ogres:(6) Maneaters, Butcher, Yhetees, Sabers, Slaughtermaster, Firebelly, This list doesn't include just old models in general whose quality does not match that of the majority of the game. A trend of GW is to replace a kit if there is a third party that is selling a better/newer version of a kit that they sell.

Well my first purchase was almost a Squat Trike as it was the first time I had seen anything like that but my Dad wanted Gunship on the Amstrad

I think there's probably space for specialist anti-armour units with mortal wound abilities, if rend is down as a general rule, armies will still want some tools to deal with 2+/3+ armour with All Out Defence and the like.

They mentioned that the faction focuses would start rolling out 'next month,' so I'd imagine those will take up a lot of the May/June article slots. I'd also think that the SCE/skaven faction focuses would be a good time for them to show some of the warscrolls for the newly previewed units.

Not sure this will impact things much but Monday 6th is a Bank Holiday in the UK, so the reveal may be for something else that's not a big release?

having an actual model kit (and a full Plastic unit) release for Gitmob gives more creedence to the speculation. It isn’t the same as the speculation for something like Silent people where most people are basing them on fluff and some pictures from Underworlds. it also because the Snarlfang rider was a pretty surprising and odd release for Gitz. A stand-alone unit that didn’t have much similarity or synergy with the rest of Gitz (bar a few of the universal Gitz buffs). So it does make it interesting to speculate on why GW release them as they did since it rare for them to do such an an isolated unit release.

Replacing mortal wounds with auto-wound or 'becomes 2 hits' abilities would be much better to create impactful shooting that still has counterplay. Mortal Wounds would work best with heroes, monsters, spells, and defensive units like Liberators (a unit that has few attacks and is meant to take it on the chin, but due to mortal wounds still has the potential to do some damage on the return swing.) Offensive units should have more attacks, deal more damage and have access to abilities that improve their offensive ability, but no mortal wounds (the Kroxigor warscroll demonstrates this perfectly.)

They might circle back and show off the Reclusian warscroll. It's the only one we haven't seen for the new model reveals. Edit: Correction, I don't think they showed clan rats either. Showing off both of them might be worth an article.

Seeing we are starting to see stuff that is not part of the trailer, and having in mind that the more units you show the less impact would have the final reveal, I think we will see two heroes. One for each faction and nothing on the last week. Maybe a shadow or a little bit of a bigger mini, as they are doing in the last previews.

I'd love to see perhaps a reveal or teaser of "What else in 4th Edition." See some hints about who else or what else is being updated during 4th's early life.

Here's some food for idle speculation. So far we've seen four models/units from the launch box: Liberators, Clanrats, Reclusians, and now the new Warplock-Engineer. We will see the full contents of the box around May 16-18. That still leaves 3(!) weeks of reveals, an uneven number. What will we see over the next three weeks? Next week could a Stormcast character. What about Skaven the week after? And what about Monday the 13.? No reveal, perhaps?

I’m Glad Companies like Punga keep the Forgotten and abandoned side of the hobby alive.

Yeah if they revive them, they're in need of a glow up haha. Pretty bad sculpts honestly, underneath is just vacant of detail too. Rough times 😅

They show it's time, but definitely it is really nice concept!

Yeah these were what I was referring to. I want these back as a kit! I sold my WQ Silver Tower a few years back and regret not parting it out and keeping these goobers.

My thoughts are the other way around. They could have stopped with Rippas warband. But why reimagine a whole unit with the Gitmob design if they are just planning this unit? They could have just put a moonclan or hobgrot on top instead.