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  2. You can do 3x10 Tzaangors as a base instead of bestigors, they are not a full 1 to 1, but 2 wounds with a 6+++ makes them fun to play, then have some Ungors like 30-40 as filler. use your Disks as the heavy hitters.
  3. They mentioned on the stream today that an Ogor's appearance can change depending on what they usually eat.
  4. I can see Katakros having the Mortis Praetorian (his personal legion) keyword, Arkhan and Nagash will probably be exempt from the whole legions bonuses thing given that they themselves are not Ossiarchs, although they may very well get the Ossiarch keyword.
  5. Thanks. Didn't expect such a quick reply! I'm guessing by the sound of it that I need to have loads of big units of ungor/bestigors etc to take advantage of their board control. That sounds like a lot of hobby work! 😅 Might just throw some of the cool models into my collection and it not focus on tournament lists
  6. @LLVThis is so awesome! Thanks! I think there might be a sort error in the Match Win % column in the Meta% table. Looks like the Slaanesh win rate is showing for Stormcast for example.
  7. Right, now that the peasantry have gone the best way to paint Ogor skin is grey. True aficionados and masters of the game choose grey.
  8. So you thought Slaanesh summoning was bad, huh? Lemmie tell ya about Ardfist.. So yeah real talk, this needs to be made 1 CP pr. unit destroyed, or you can use multiple CPs until you succeed in rolling a 4+. This many bodies in a Big Waaagh army with armywide +1/+1 and FNP save etc. would be nuts. Way too many bodies for people to chew through to get to the objectives.
  9. I run the largest AoS Tournament in the North East US this year is 72 players. We're a cut below the biggest in the US (LVO, Adepticon, and NOVA) We wrote our guidance before Cities of Sigmar and I'm still thinking about how to refresh things for 2020. It's essentially evolved from what our pack has said for years to reflect some changes in AoS (terrain!) Here's what our pack says: Conversions Conversions are encouraged, but should be clear to a new opponent and must be based properly. If in doubt send us some pictures to review. Player brought terrain must be the actual GW model no proxies allowed, minor conversions of a GW piece to customize it are allowed. Forgeworld models should either be the actual GW model or have been previously approved by our team. Non-GW/Proxies Models from Non-GW ranges or Proxies are allowed, but should be clear to a new opponent and must be based properly. If in doubt send us some pictures to review. Forgeworld units and terrain are not allowed to be proxied. You can not use the same proxied model to represent multiple different unit types in the same army. (Example: If you are proxying Sequitors with swords as actually having maces you can’t have some Sequitor units with swords who are armed as swords.)
  10. Don't think nagash will count as part of any af the legions. Imagine nagash as part of the fire legion that blows up when they die 😂
  11. @Skumbaagh Start with 2+d3 command points. First turn you get +1 CP You get 5 rolls of a 4+ for a CP each hero phase. So 3.5 + 1 +2.5 CP Average first turn CP is 7. Spending 6 CP should on average net you +2 with the Broach, the extra 3 then gives you a third. Average ability activations on the first turn is 10. Understrength a unit of 5 to 1. Green puke on it, use the Ability to green puke on it again. Use the ability 10 times. Average gain on first turn ~50 ardboys. This 900 points. Theoretical maximum (assuming average Broach rolls) ~150 Ardboys. This is 2700 points... #balance. EDIT: ON TURN 1 this says nothing about the future gains from it. Average over a game is probably about 2k points.
  12. Dear god I hope I don't have to play any more Nighthaunt at this one! 🤣
  13. Is this tournament legal? Can you bring a single model but willingly pay for all 5? If so, we definitely are able to kill one ardboyz with our own spells, no doubt. I drafted my list out of what models I have, but this makes more sense. Both being a Big Waaagh list + incorporating cave shamans would be an improvement. Imo, we'd likely want another warchanter for the additional Waaagh points, and you can fit some GGs + a Mawkrusha with something like this: Allegiance: Big Waaagh!Mortal Realm: HyshMegaboss on Maw-Krusha (460)Orruk Weirdnob Shaman (110)- General- Trait: Dead Kunnin' - Artefact: Shamanic SkullcapeOrruk Warchanter (110)- Artefact: Aetherquartz BroochOrruk Warchanter (110)Fungoid Cave-Shaman (90)- AlliesFungoid Cave-Shaman (90) - Allies6 x Orruk Gore-gruntas (320)10 x Savage Orruks (120)10 x Savage Orruks (120)5 x Orruk Ardboys (90)5 x Orruk Ardboys (90)5 x Orruk Ardboys (90)Ardfist (120)Extra Command Point (50)The Burning Head (30) Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 2Allies: 180 / 400Wounds: 141 The weapon loadouts can be adjusted to taste, but I would imagine that Aetherquartz would be the artefact of choice in this circumstance. Thoughts? Edit: To give a rough idea, this gives you 2+d3 CP plus 2 more (per turn) on 4+s. An average amount of CP for this is 5 on turn 1. If you killed 1 ardboy and dumped all your CP into the Ardfist ability, factoring in Aetherquartz, you'd get about 6 opportunities to use the ability. This averages to about 3 successful unit summons on turn 1. Obviously, there's a lot of room for this number to go up or down, but it gives a rough idea of you're working with.
  14. Maybe big stuff will not get the +1 save
  15. The worst matchups are long range mortal wounds that can hit the Longstrikes and Evocators before they get hit first. Jezzails are a tricky unit to deal with, Seraphon teleporting wizards in range to throw Pendulums through the army is a problem, and I suspect some COS lists (Hallowheart and Greywater notably) to a threat. I would say all matchups against melee armies are favourable for Anvilstrike, most magic armies are not an issue because we can easily pack in 2+ dispel scrolls, and even most ranged lists are not a problem because Longstrikes have such a ridiculous threat range. Fyreslayers aren't really a problem because we can use the precision fire of Longstrikes to take down their heroes and make the hearthguard just another slow melee unit. Everyone plays the same Hermdar list with 30 Hearthguard, but I am much more concerned about the Lofnir shooting lists... thankfully they are exceedingly rare.
  16. Go read the thread - please. Lets say you ask every player in the world to log their results, their terrain, and their skill level. Do you think you could even accurately get players to self assess their skill level? Maybe you can get players to get you the data and can stratify it by scenario, match up, points level, realm, player skill levels, terrain density, terrain height, use of GW terrain warscrolls. Even if you start with tens of thousands of data points to evaluate when you are trying to determine balance you are going to have a lot of unique pairings of those variables to consider and end up with much smaller amounts of games in a specific situation to try and do analysis on Computer gaming has it easier because all the data is captured on the interface - most games tend to have a way of assessing player success (as a proxy for skill level) and everything else is part of the existing data set as defined they've got access to. Old school computing had the GIGO mantra "Garbage In= Garbage Out " if you don't know if you've got garbage for your inputs you can't rely on your outputs. Big data analysis can do some amazing thing but it's limited by having access to enough of the variables that are part of those data points to do something useful.
  17. Exactly! Now the minis look even more dynamic. Nice! Let us know about your painting work (hope you'll post the result in the Painted warbands section...)!
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  19. Good to hear that nothing is going away. I'm not planning to build an Ogre army tomorrow or anything, but it's a long term plan for my next army, though I may do the maneaters mercenary company sooner rather than later(as well as painting a few more ogres I have kicking around here). I already practically run Gloomspite as an "elite" army(elite for goblins at least), so it'd be funny to use gnoblars to run ogres as a horde army.
  20. There’s a scary thought. Nagash actually being worth his points. If his last point hike turns out to be a rational move my head will explode.
  21. I plan on updating it every week I'll put up a google survey for each week in which you can put in what games you played and who won (also mention the name of the opponent). Make sure only one of the players adds the battle's results =). Then at the End of the week I'll upldate the map and upload it right here. At the beginning of each week I'll put up one pole per Grand Alliance in which people can vote about where they want to attack/retreat so every faction can start with the new battles asap. I plan on doing this for 6-12 weeks (this highly depends on how fast territories will be shifting) I uploaded a new Rules version (in the Previous one the starting positions of Chaos and Destruction were switched) https://drive.google.com/open?id=1pGwkgMjIszNEZu7vVB0ioNU1VgDVNp2-
  22. It’s certainly true old builds can’t be completely discounted. FEC won a significant tournament right before they had a new book drop. Area meta and player competency count for something. Downunder had KO take second place in the biggest gathering AoS has there. He had a shot at #1 if not for the loss of a deciding priority roll. Personally I tend to lean more to the data side of statistics. If numbers indicate something is off I accept it and either adapt or move on. Matt Ward helped get me out of 40k for years after running the game into the ground. Playing for narrative has always been an option for AoS. It was the first and only one at launch. With the local club we play all kinds of lists at varying difficulties. It all works out when it is the community having fun. Personally not a big fan of the competitive scene. It tends to ruin the game like how in 40k they nerf many things without carefully reviewing it. I worry that kind of derangement will infect the AoS side. Kudos to you and everyone who enjoy climbing those mountains.
  23. One of my hobby dreams is attend a tournament with an insane model count army and just pour them out of a bucket onto the table.
  24. Me too! I went from "Sounds alright" to instant day one all-in army as soon as I heard about the battalion.
  25. Tempting, but I won't fall for that madness again this time. I had a Gnoblar army with the White Dwarf rules back in WHFB 7e and it had more models at 1000p than literally any other army at 2000p.
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